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    hello sirs!

    any suggestions on a 2nd hand car i should look for with a 450 budget? well stretched to around 470k if ever actually

    preferably an automatic, and has reasonable maintenance costs..

    car will be mainly used for home to office/office to home travel on weekdays and city driving on weekends...

    hope you can help me..

    thanks in advance

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    I'd consider a Vios with the 1.3L engine.

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    For that price you could get a Mazda 3 2.0R. It's a fast car with loads of features and superior handling that can compete and beat even more modern compact cars today. It looks gorgeous too, at least for me.

    Of course, because of its 2-liter displacement, you shouldn't expect too much in terms of fuel efficiency. You'll be looking at about 7 km/l on city driving, probably 8 if you have a really light foot or if the traffic on your route isn't all that heavy.

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    Get a Honda Civic FD 1.8s. At that price, there are already several Civic FD's being sold at that price GoodLuck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by d_rookie12 View Post
    hello sirs!

    any suggestions on a 2nd hand car i should look for with a 450 budget? well stretched to around 470k if ever actually

    preferably an automatic, and has reasonable maintenance costs..

    car will be mainly used for home to office/office to home travel on weekdays and city driving on weekends...

    hope you can help me..

    thanks in advance
    exactly how do you intend to use it? basic transport? weekend racing? symbolo de estado? beauty contest entry? today's cars can very well fill up your basic needs. it's a matter of how much else you want from it..
    for basic use, vios or city are there..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    exactly how do you intend to use it? basic transport? weekend racing? symbolo de estado? beauty contest entry? today's cars can very well fill up your basic needs. it's a matter of how much else you want from it..
    for basic use, vios or city are there..
    dr d,

    it will primarily be used as basic transport - to and from office on weekdays, and city driving on weekends...i guess my primary concern after is maintenance cost. porma siguro is just a bonus

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    Quote Originally Posted by d_rookie12 View Post
    hello sirs!

    any suggestions on a 2nd hand car i should look for with a 450 budget? well stretched to around 470k if ever actually

    preferably an automatic, and has reasonable maintenance costs..

    car will be mainly used for home to office/office to home travel on weekdays and city driving on weekends...

    hope you can help me..

    thanks in advance
    You have quite a lot of choices. Do you want an AUV, CUV or sedan? For an AUV, there's the Crosswind A/T. Sure it's pretty unrefined but it's very tough. Maintenance cost and fuel economy is similar to subcompacts while giving double the seating capacity. Floods and potholes are not a problem too. For a CUV, there are the Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute 2.3L and Nissan X-Trail 200X. For sedans, the FD Civic should be the best pick for this budget.

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    Hi Sirs,

    I also have the same question as d_rookie12 (I hope you won't mind if I piggyback on your thread, and I hope, we also share the same needs so the gurus here, can answer us both without going to 2 different topics).

    400-500k Sedan for almost daily driving cavite-makati area (60kms - balikan).
    Priorities:
    - AT
    - good FC
    - Less than 3-4yrs (>2008)
    - Looks
    - Maintenance
    - 3rd hand resale value??? (only planning to use it for 3yrs.)

    Btw, I'm also a first time driver/first car. Large guy, around 6 foot tall, so I also need to consider leg/head room in both driver and back seat.

    As of now, I currently looking at Honda City instead of Vios as I find City's looks as much better than Vios'.

    Other recommendations are welcome.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreme View Post
    Hi Sirs,

    I also have the same question as d_rookie12 (I hope you won't mind if I piggyback on your thread, and I hope, we also share the same needs so the gurus here, can answer us both without going to 2 different topics).

    400-500k Sedan for almost daily driving cavite-makati area (60kms - balikan).
    Priorities:
    - AT
    - good FC
    - Less than 3-4yrs (>2008)
    - Looks
    - Maintenance
    - 3rd hand resale value??? (only planning to use it for 3yrs.)

    Btw, I'm also a first time driver/first car. Large guy, around 6 foot tall, so I also need to consider leg/head room in both driver and back seat.

    As of now, I currently looking at Honda City instead of Vios as I find City's looks as much better than Vios'.

    Other recommendations are welcome.

    Thanks
    For good FC, high resale value and low maintenance, usually the Vios is the pick. But it is rather cramped inside. The current gen City is a much better choice. Although the FC is not as good as the previous gen iDSI units, the performance is much improved and so is the look. For a suncompact, the City is also very spacious inside. Considering your long route, the City would also be a better choice since it has more power.

    If you are OK with driving a manual, I'd suggest you consider the Accent CRDi. It is even more economical than the Vios and City since it uses cheaper diesel fuel. Performance is much better than both the Vios and the City too. Not to mention that this car enjoys very high resale value.

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    Thank you Sir GTi for your comprehensive opinion. When you said current gen City, are you referring to the 2012 model or the 2011? I'm not sure if I can fetch a current gen City with 400-500k. :P

    I'm currently being discouraged by my father and other friends who already drives from getting a M/T car as they say driving an M/T car from Cavite to Makati is almost the same as standing in the bus for 3hrs everyday(1.5hrs/ride)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreme View Post
    Thank you Sir GTi for your comprehensive opinion. When you said current gen City, are you referring to the 2012 model or the 2011? I'm not sure if I can fetch a current gen City with 400-500k. :P

    I'm currently being discouraged by my father and other friends who already drives from getting a M/T car as they say driving an M/T car from Cavite to Makati is almost the same as standing in the bus for 3hrs everyday(1.5hrs/ride)
    Hehehe... If I may ask, is this your first car? Driving a manual car through traffic ain't that bad, especially if that car happens to be a diesel and has lots of torque so that it does not easily stall like their gasoline counterparts (M/T Vios is a very fine example of this). So if you are young and have the legs, the manual is feasible, although it is true that a matic car would be much less stressful to the body and the mind. It is up to you if you would prefer the superior gas mileage and performance or comfort and convenience.

    As for the current gen City I mean the model launched on 2009. There are already units that are at the low 500+k bracket.
    Like this one Honda City AT - 09 | Cars for sale NCR | AyosDito.ph, this one Honda City AT - 09 | Cars for sale NCR | AyosDito.ph, and this one too Honda City AT - 09 | Cars for sale NCR | AyosDito.ph!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreme View Post
    Hi Sirs,

    I also have the same question as d_rookie12 (I hope you won't mind if I piggyback on your thread, and I hope, we also share the same needs so the gurus here, can answer us both without going to 2 different topics).

    400-500k Sedan for almost daily driving cavite-makati area (60kms - balikan).
    Priorities:
    - AT
    - good FC
    - Less than 3-4yrs (>2008)
    - Looks
    - Maintenance
    - 3rd hand resale value??? (only planning to use it for 3yrs.)

    Btw, I'm also a first time driver/first car. Large guy, around 6 foot tall, so I also need to consider leg/head room in both driver and back seat.

    As of now, I currently looking at Honda City instead of Vios as I find City's looks as much better than Vios'.

    Other recommendations are welcome.

    Thanks
    no problem bro goodluck with your carhunt as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by d_rookie12 View Post
    no problem bro goodluck with your carhunt as well!
    Thanks. Goodluck din.

    Pasingit lang ulit ng isa. :P

    *GTi
    How about Mazda3 09 vs Honda City 09 on FC, maintenance, and headroom/legroom (6ft guy) of both driver seat and back seat?

    Di ko pa fully na background check si Mazda 3, but it really makes me wonder, why is a 2nd hand Mazda3 cheaper than a Honda City of the same year/km/etc.

    After reading at the FC thread of Mazda, mukang alam ko na sagot sa FC question ko.

    Another question, Honda 09 1.3 or 1.5? Usually (50% of usage) ako lang mag isa laman or probably may 1 pang passenger. Pero gagamitin din sya with my family(4 lang kami sa family, although nasa heavy side kami kasi malalaki kami).

    Probably end of April pa pala ako makabili.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreme View Post
    Thanks. Goodluck din.

    Pasingit lang ulit ng isa. :P

    *GTi
    How about Mazda3 09 vs Honda City 09 on FC, maintenance, and headroom/legroom (6ft guy) of both driver seat and back seat?

    Di ko pa fully na background check si Mazda 3, but it really makes me wonder, why is a 2nd hand Mazda3 cheaper than a Honda City of the same year/km/etc.

    After reading at the FC thread of Mazda, mukang alam ko na sagot sa FC question ko.

    Another question, Honda 09 1.3 or 1.5? Usually (50% of usage) ako lang mag isa laman or probably may 1 pang passenger. Pero gagamitin din sya with my family(4 lang kami sa family, although nasa heavy side kami kasi malalaki kami).

    Probably end of April pa pala ako makabili.
    Ayun, alam mo na pala ang sagot sa tanong mo sa Mazda 3 eh. As for the City 1.3 and 1.5, if you are not a hypermiler, you might as well get the 1.5 which though not as thrifty as the 1.3 in most cases (except perhaps for hataw moments and mountain climbing), is thrifty parin naman. Sinabi mo nga bigatin ang karga mo minsan. Then I suppose the 1.5i-VTEC is for you.

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    Para sakin honda civic fd.

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    *GTi
    Yes, sir. First car. I think I'll still go for AT, as my main reason for wanting a car is to have a much comfortable means of transport. Btw, thanks for the links, I forgot looking at ayosdito when I was scouting for cars in the past few days.

    *EuroFD && dondonposadas
    Thanks for the recommendation, I'm also checking the FDs but I'm worrying about maintenance cost, and also FC(from what I've read, a higher engine displacement means more power but also more gas consumed.).

    ____
    Singit ko narin mga sir, When buying a 2nd hand car, what are the usual things to check without seeing the car yet(like km, mods,nth ownership, etc) and upon seeing the car(like scratches, aircon, smoke emission?, actual drive, etc.). Of course, I'd still bring my dad and probably a mechanic with me.

    Another singit, For Honda City, 08< or >09? I'm seeing IDSI engine on the 08 and I-VTEC on 09. My initial googling showed i-vtec is a better choice but only a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreme View Post
    *GTi
    Yes, sir. First car. I think I'll still go for AT, as my main reason for wanting a car is to have a much comfortable means of transport. Btw, thanks for the links, I forgot looking at ayosdito when I was scouting for cars in the past few days.

    *EuroFD && dondonposadas
    Thanks for the recommendation, I'm also checking the FDs but I'm worrying about maintenance cost, and also FC(from what I've read, a higher engine displacement means more power but also more gas consumed.).

    ____
    Singit ko narin mga sir, When buying a 2nd hand car, what are the usual things to check without seeing the car yet(like km, mods,nth ownership, etc) and upon seeing the car(like scratches, aircon, smoke emission?, actual drive, etc.). Of course, I'd still bring my dad and probably a mechanic with me.

    Another singit, For Honda City, 08< or >09? I'm seeing IDSI engine on the 08 and I-VTEC on 09. My initial googling showed i-vtec is a better choice but only a little.
    I normally prefer scouting in Ayosdito since the site is much faster than sulit.

    For a 2008 and below City, get only the manual variants since the CVT is known to be prone to premature failure.

    Since comfort ang habol mo, I suppose the City will do nicely. Interior fit and finish is much better than the Vios and so are space and performance.

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    Thanks GTi, I think this affirms my initial choice of getting a City A/T. I'll now start researching on City 09(problems and issues) and finding car postings on various media.

    Thanks guys.

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    I'm having the same dilemma a few months back. My budget was also 450k. I'm planning to use the car/suv/auv to transport me from our home (Santa Rosa, Laguna) to my work (Dasmariņas, Cavite) via Governor's Drive (roughly 55km back and forth). At first, gusto ko ng diesel since puro uphill yung daan and hindi ganun kagandahan yung kalsada- daming lubak at maliliit na bato na tumatalsik. I'm considering an Isuzu Crosswind, or Suzuki Jimny (gas) para talagang pang harabas. kaso parang nakakapagod i-drive at saka redundant na since we have an Isuzu Alterra na as a family vehicle. Binata pa naman ako at saka fresh grad pa lang para mag-maintain ng malaking sasakyan. hehe... Then, punta ako sa sedan. my options were: Civic V, Vios E, 9th gen Altis E, Picanto LX, Suzuki Swift.

    Muntik ko nang kunin yung Civic V dahil sa porma pero naisip ko yung gas expenses pati yung maintenance. hehe... Masyadong maliit sa akin yung 1.1 engine ng Picanto and we used to have a 2005 1.6G Altis before- ayoko ng paulit ulit. That's why i ended up with a 2008 2nd gen Vios. very frugal and cheap to maintain. so far ok naman siya. natagalan niya yung sama ng kalsada ng governor's drive. hindi rin ako bitin sa akyatan. nakakatakbo ako ng 80-90km/h paakyat sa Governor's. hindi pa takaw tingin compared sa Civic hehe (minsan naiiwanan ko yung mga spare na cellular phone ko sa lobb pag nasa mall).

    to TS: If it is just an econobox, a Vios will suffice. If you want something flashier, Civic FD FTW!

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