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    Hello everyone, helping a friend decide on which car.
    What would be the best value for money in the 2nd hand market for 400k max budget.

    Priorities would be
    1. Maintenance
    2. Performance
    3. Comfort
    4. Fuel Consumption

    His top picks
    1. Elantra GLS
    2. Civic FD
    3. Mazda 3
    4. Ford Focus
    5. Ford Fiesta
    6. Jazz

    Feel free to add other options as he is still open to other cars.

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    Go with the Civic FD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaster101 View Post
    Hello everyone, helping a friend decide on which car.
    What would be the best value for money in the 2nd hand market for 400k max budget.


    Feel free to add other options as he is still open to other cars.
    Toyota Camry.

    There are some decent examples out there for that amount of money.

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    jazz

    kung ako ikaw...

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    Gusto nya ata ung elantra pero mahal ba talaga yun i maintain?

    For the camry naman., okay lng ba FC at maintenamce nya?

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    ^^^ If Camry is a suggestion, then consider also the Accord or Mazda6. They are better for folks who drive their own cars.

    Midsize cars tend to consume more fuel than the usual compact or subcompact mainly for the reason they have bigger engines. A midsize with a 4-banger NA engine (between 2.0L to 2.5L) would do around 6-7 km/L on city driving routes, similar to most CUVs with the same engine size. Midsize cars are much more durable though as they are designed better to deal with its bigger platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    ^^^ If Camry is a suggestion, then consider also the Accord or Mazda6. They are better for folks who drive their own cars.

    Midsize cars tend to consume more fuel than the usual compact or subcompact mainly for the reason they have bigger engines. A midsize with a 4-banger NA engine (between 2.0L to 2.5L) would do around 6-7 km/L on city driving routes, similar to most CUVs with the same engine size. Midsize cars are much more durable though as they are designed better to deal with its bigger platform.
    In terms of maintenance? Does midsize cost the same as the compact/subcompact of the same price range?

    parang yung nasa isip nya is Elantra>Civic>Jazz.
    Halos sold na siya sa elantra kung hindi lng dahil sa reliability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    ^^^ They are better for folks who drive their own cars.
    I'd gladly drive a (my) Camry .. (if I had one) ...

    BTT:

    Owning a bigger car, is like "more" car for your money's worth.

    Better interior materials, better safety features, etc.

    Re: Hyundai, yeah medyo over-acting ang brand na yan when it comes to aftersales parts and service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    ^^^ If Camry is a suggestion, then consider also the Accord or Mazda6. They are better for folks who drive their own cars.

    Midsize cars tend to consume more fuel than the usual compact or subcompact mainly for the reason they have bigger engines. A midsize with a 4-banger NA engine (between 2.0L to 2.5L) would do around 6-7 km/L on city driving routes, similar to most CUVs with the same engine size. Midsize cars are much more durable though as they are designed better to deal with its bigger platform.
    Plus midsize sedans feels much more comfy

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaster101 View Post
    Gusto nya ata ung elantra pero mahal ba talaga yun i maintain?

    For the camry naman., okay lng ba FC at maintenamce nya?
    Mejo mahal hyundai. Every 5000kms ang PMS. Ako kasi sa casa lang talaga ko nagpapaPMS, if he'll do the same baka mapamahal sya. Mas mahal kapag 10k pms lalo na 20k pms and 40k pms kasi mas marami pinapalitan. I remember, sa 80k pms ko, inabot ako P21k. And that is just for an Accent 1.4L(manual).. Also im always using fully synthetic for my engine oil.

    Mahal din parts, nung nireplace ung aircon pulley ata yun, they charged me 12k for the item alone.. Wala pa labor.. So "$$$kaching$$$" nanaman yun for hyundai! Haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    Toyota Camry.

    There are some decent examples out there for that amount of money.
    When I was shopping for my next (2nd hand) car, twice I almost bought a Camry. One was a 2007 I think for around 450k only used as a coding car *daw*. You can see from the pictures naman that it was well maintained. So for a while I hesitated as the price seems too good to be true. When finally I messaged the owner, nabenta na. Next was a 2008/2009 Camry by an expat (Korean) sa Caloocan for around 550k. Again, from the pictures it seemed fresh na fresh talaga. Again, price was a factor na naman since it's a bit overbudget na. So I settled for the next best, a 2.0V Altis.

    So my advise to the OP, consider a 2008-2010 (10th Gen) to 2011-2012 (10.5 Gen) 1.6V Altis. For the price mentioned, or maybe just a bit more, you can still find pristine examples.

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    I've gone thru basically every car size mentioned. Started early w/ a stick RWD compact & have gone full circle.....back to 1 & a coupla subs. The full size is now the garage queen...driven only on hauling calls. Conscience forced me to think less of comfort & more of less occupied road space. The car is basically my office & officemate....roadtime all day everyday.....so, I always opt for 1 that functions more than an a reliable appliance. I gotta be drawn to it, gotta love it. This helps me cope w/ the never-ending jams.
    Can't help silently curse seeing large passengerless cars going around...like those vans dedicated for picking up 1 kid coz owners refuse to let their drivers drive their premium compacts around.*#$%€£¥₩ go thru my mind.[emoji34]. Sorry....They occupy precious parking & are the primary cause of everything in slow motion. I refuse to let others like me think of me that way.[emoji4]
    I wish we could all be like the green-minded Europeans, Japanese....they value super minis. They respect their small roads, fellow motorists & pedestrians....but that's wishful thinking, I know....We have larger families. The lower cost of diesel & the efficiency of cars that run on it are an attraction....a smokescreen, really, if you look at how much higher they are priced over their petrol variants. Not everyone can consume that purchase cost difference on petrol-diesel cost disparity over the car's ownership....& Oh, there are 2 silent horrors that will haunt new diesels....DPFs & carbon build up.
    My humble appeal to potential car owners..... please factor in road traffic & the environment....I may not be able to influence judgement here, but having gone thru various sizes/badges in both petrol & diesel, I'm having the most fun & least stress w/ the lil ones. The grin, the joy of driving is back........Full circle.[emoji4]
    Apologies for the OT rant.....back to regular programming.[emoji4]



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    Nissan sylphy

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    Don’t go midsize, from experience harder to dispose, camry kahit na toyota yun hirap ibenta.
    Get one with a resale value na medyo plateau na ang presyo. Bec. there will come a time na he will sell or upgrade, yun 400k ubos na.

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    Almost always, the best used cars are from passionate enthusiasts w/ OCD. Chances are, those cars have been cared & spent for. All you gotta do is drive.
    Let their curse be your blessing.[emoji4]

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    Would get a Camry over a compact. I kinda regret getting a Mazda 3 2.0 over a Camry 2.4V, although at that time I just wanted a coding car that was fun to drive. Now I think I'd appreciate the reliability, comfort, and prestige of the Camry over the handling and toys of the Mazda 3.

    2007-2008 at the 400k price range won't depreciate that much more since it has already depreciated a lot, and there are still older Camries in the 250-300k range so there's a floor to how low prices can go in the short term.

    It'll be a pain to maintain and it'll drink a lot of gas, but the same can be said for my Mazda 3. And personally, even a 10 year old Camry still looks more upscale than a newer Altis or any other compact for that matter.

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    Reduce your carbon & road footprints.
    I'd suggest cheaper, easier to drive/park/maintain non-CVT econoboxes like the previous gen Jazz or Yaris. Both small yet unexpectedly roomy. Solid decent cars I'd welcome anytime. They look better than the current ones, too. IMO.[emoji4]

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    Random lang saktong lunch break sa office nagbrowse ako ng used Hyundai Sonata (fluidic sculpture 2010-2014). Sobrang fan ako ng design niya, yung top spec GLS Premium complete with pano sunroof, push start, etc can be had for around 400-700K depending on the year model.

    What do you guys think? Ok kaya yun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancerA174A View Post
    Random lang saktong lunch break sa office nagbrowse ako ng used Hyundai Sonata (fluidic sculpture 2010-2014). Sobrang fan ako ng design niya, yung top spec GLS Premium complete with pano sunroof, push start, etc can be had for around 400-700K depending on the year model.

    What do you guys think? Ok kaya yun?

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    heavy duty transmission and engine. bushings are cheap. shocks are cheap too.

    fc is ok 😅

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    heavy duty transmission and engine. bushings are cheap. shocks are cheap too.

    fc is ok 😅

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    Wow, ok na pala ako dun, kesa bumili ng brand new supermini may decent midsize sedan ka na. Sa previous experience namin sa Hyundai parts weren't really a problem, katapat lang namin isa sa known parts dealers ng Korean brands.

    Can't remember if the 2.0 limited had Stability Control though, rare variant yun.

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