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[[archie]]

sa audio setup, head unit is best to start with. A head unit that can go at any volume without distortion is the best you can get.


at a price range of 15k, you can still get clarity but don't expect too much. If you still wanna use your amp, go ahead. get a 10 inch sub kahit teac lang, and sealed box. A good seps like a/d/s na silk type tweeter with at least 100 rms. This would cost you less than 10k.


pero if you want something high end. The buhos budget muna sa head unit. then ipon for the likes of Rockford fosgate, Polk audio, Memphis audio, etc.

[vonvergelenriqu]

Well, buti nandito si red_one taking care of the car audio section of Tsikot while I was gone :D


1. Get a subwoofer and an amplifier for it. This fills up the lower-bass regions and would frankly be the most apparent upgrade for most people.
2. Go change your amplifier.
3. Get better speakers.
4. Deaden.
5. Finally change your head unit.
(no particular order)

And if habol mo lang talaga is clarity, keep it simple: sell your Targa and V12. Get a 5k separate component set and a 5k amplifier then be done with it.

ang ginawa ko nga po ay ganito na. di ko na kinabit ung targa

ang setup ko ay
JBL GTO AT V12 UNG AMPLIFIER KO
JL W3V2 UNG SUB KO 35 ANG TUNING
jbl p660c ung separates ko

[jhnkvn]

sa audio setup, head unit is best to start with. A head unit that can go at any volume without distortion is the best you can get.


at a price range of 15k, you can still get clarity but don't expect too much. If you still wanna use your amp, go ahead. get a 10 inch sub kahit teac lang, and sealed box. A good seps like a/d/s na silk type tweeter with at least 100 rms. This would cost you less than 10k.


pero if you want something high end. The buhos budget muna sa head unit. then ipon for the likes of Rockford fosgate, Polk audio, Memphis audio, etc.

Ahihihi, nahahalata na age ni Archie as Memphis Audio no longer has a distributor locally :D

ang ginawa ko nga po ay ganito na. di ko na kinabit ung targa

ang setup ko ay
JBL GTO AT V12 UNG AMPLIFIER KO
JL W3V2 UNG SUB KO 35 ANG TUNING
jbl p660c ung separates ko

Where did you get the JL Audio subwoofer? The version two has long been discontinued as since 2006 I believe. The JL subs being sold nowadays are version threes with a SRP of 13k.

Why am I saying this? If you bought that secondhand or maybe even first hand, you're probably a victim of fake products. JL Audio is well-known to have fakes in the Philippines and this was prolific especially dati sa version 2 series subs nila.

[jhnkvn]

I would also follow up my post:

1. Please people, there's a difference between clarity and pagbabayo. But the ported box alone raises my eyebrows. That doesn't mean that ported won't sound good in a SQ application, but most people would go for a sealed box for linearity. This is because it's often hard to design a "good" ported box that won't add extra boom. Then again, many consumers love boom and I assume you're part of that.

2. Remember na alagaan mo gain knob ng amplifier mo. It's not a volume pot. Misuse that and you'll risk frying your speakers (as with what most newbies do).

3. Targa isn't a bad brand. In fact it's one of the largest OEM manufacturers locally. What this means is that a lot of what you hear everyday is actually targa drivers. That Sony component system you bought in 2004 before? Their speakers are Targa. Properly tuned, you'd be surprised they sound great.

4. The head unit is best to start with is generally true. However, habol mo lang sa head unit is tuning features. This is why I ALWAYS recommend getting a PROPER head unit that has time alignment and X-bands of EQ for those people who wants to enter the world of car audio in sound quality. Unfortunately, 95% of people won't believe in my advice in getting a head unit that costs 7-10k secondhand at minimum and this is the reason why 95% of you.. seriously got BS'ed by an installer into purchasing pricier items in hopes of getting better sound.

There's a reason why the sound engineer who designed the cinemas of Shangri-La Plaza drives around in a Toyota 86 with an Alpine IVE-W535BT and not some simple 2DINN head unit from Pioneer or Alpine. (In case you know him, his system sounds great even when amp-less.. basta wag lang reference levels of playing)

[Bugoy King]

with your budget try to go to Jeff Tan just tell him want you want and how much your budget is I'm sure he can give you a better offer

[vonvergelenriqu]

Ahihihi, nahahalata na age ni Archie as Memphis Audio no longer has a distributor locally :D



Where did you get the JL Audio subwoofer? The version two has long been discontinued as since 2006 I believe. The JL subs being sold nowadays are version threes with a SRP of 13k.

Why am I saying this? If you bought that secondhand or maybe even first hand, you're probably a victim of fake products. JL Audio is well-known to have fakes in the Philippines and this was prolific especially dati sa version 2 series subs nila.

so ano po ba ma rerecommend nyo na sub sa akin na 12' lang? buti na lang sinabi nyo po sa akn n fake na pla mga jl ngaun d2 sa pinas, kya pla prang nag doubt ako na prang hindi maganda,

[jhnkvn]

For the money, I really recommend a simple JBL GT-5. Damage would simply be around 2,000php and it's pretty versatile whether you'll be using a sealed, ported, or infinite baffle. Its motor structure alone is worthy of recommendation... so is its Fs (free-air resonance) of 29hz. That's just 3hz higher than the Fs of a 12-inch Morel Ultimo.

Again, the JBL GT5-12 also has fakes so be sure to buy from reputable shops (and no, sellers from sulit isn't what I call "reputable". A lot of them sells fakes).

[red_one]

*vonvergelenriqu: 12-inch

[vonvergelenriqu]

For the money, I really recommend a simple JBL GT-5. Damage would simply be around 2,000php and it's pretty versatile whether you'll be using a sealed, ported, or infinite baffle. Its motor structure alone is worthy of recommendation... so is its Fs (free-air resonance) of 29hz. That's just 3hz higher than the Fs of a 12-inch Morel Ultimo.

Again, the JBL GT5-12 also has fakes so be sure to buy from reputable shops (and no, sellers from sulit isn't what I call "reputable". A lot of them sells fakes).

sir, kung lightning lab 1xl or lightning lab 2xl ang sub ko 12' maganda din po kaya? my nag recommend lng po eh

[jhnkvn]

sir, kung lightning lab 1xl or lightning lab 2xl ang sub ko 12' maganda din po kaya? my nag recommend lng po eh

The thing about subwoofers is that there's really not much that can differentiate them. Isa lang naman gagawin mo eh - reproduction of the low frequency sounds. Physical-wise, you'll be looking at the motor structure. The bigger and badder the magnet and motor structure/basket is, the better it is.

Well, I know a couple of peeps who uses Lightning Lab drivers (raws and subwoofers) and are actually sponsored by LL. Sabi naman nila the performance is good for the money naman. Company profile wise, LL is pretty much like a re-brander. They import Chinese stuff, tests them for quality control, then simply repackages and rebrands them as their own. This is why you see LL everywhere from capacitors, speakers, amplifiers, wires, etc. Whether that's good or not is simply up in the air -- I'm not in a position to judge companies.

A more reputable re-brander is Sonus which is our home-grown car audio brand. It's the brainchild of the Philippines' largest car audio shops - JC Car Audio, BluePrint, and Mickey's Autosounds (to a certain extent I believe). What they do is dictate their "components" and have an OEM manufacturer in China to churn out the products. Does it mean they're inferior? No. I actually highly recommend their Sonus Enigma amplifiers at the 16k price point.

Remember that in the industry, 95% of the people judge with their eyes. Just seeing an expensive brand like Harman's JBL would sometimes affect the perception of a person that this must sound "better" and a lot of the people in the industry equate more expensive = better (although the truth is, that's not necessarily the case). Sound is hard to judge.. it's subjective, after all.

[vonvergelenriqu]

ah ganun po ba, my maisusuggest po ba kayong mga store na pwedeng bilhan ng mga kakailanganin ko na lahat ay original? kasi ang alam ko lng raon eh ang pagkakaalam ko madaming peke dun, ayaw ko namn masyang ang pera ko dahil nkabili nanaman ako ng fake tulad ng JL w3v2

[jhnkvn]

ah ganun po ba, my maisusuggest po ba kayong mga store na pwedeng bilhan ng mga kakailanganin ko na lahat ay original? kasi ang alam ko lng raon eh ang pagkakaalam ko madaming peke dun, ayaw ko namn masyang ang pera ko dahil nkabili nanaman ako ng fake tulad ng JL w3v2

Go book a trip sa Banawe. Most stores there sell authentic ICE naman :D

[JasLi Art]

magandang sounds ba kamo? kung nakakumpleto kana po sa equipment ang pinakaimportante sa lahat na pagtuunan mo ng pansin ay ang tono ng ipapagawa mong box pra sa sub mo, sundin mo kung ano recomended n tono ng sub mo. kasi kahit gawan ka ng pagkalaki-laking box at khit gano kganda instolasyon mo kung wala sa tono wala kwenta equipment mo khit gano pa kabranded at kalakas yan.
at please lang wag kang magpakaloko sa capacitor sir dhil accessory lang yan, wla rin maitutulong sa power ng ampli mo yan. 3 pinakaimportante sa sound set up. altnernator+bnew batt.+good power wires. kung ayaw mo kumurap mga ilaw ng auto mo

magandang alternator or separate alternator para sa batt. ng sounds mo pero itoy advaisable lang sa mlakihang set-up. kung usual set-up lang naman klangan maganda at bago batt. mo at tama ang size ng power wire mo at tama ang grounding ng ampli mo.

[patricio_1025]

magandang sounds ba kamo? kung nakakumpleto kana po sa equipment ang pinakaimportante sa lahat na pagtuunan mo ng pansin ay ang tono ng ipapagawa mong box pra sa sub mo, sundin mo kung ano recomended n tono ng sub mo. kasi kahit gawan ka ng pagkalaki-laking box at khit gano kganda instolasyon mo kung wala sa tono wala kwenta equipment mo khit gano pa kabranded at kalakas yan.
at please lang wag kang magpakaloko sa capacitor sir dhil accessory lang yan, wla rin maitutulong sa power ng ampli mo yan. 3 pinakaimportante sa sound set up. altnernator+bnew batt.+good power wires. kung ayaw mo kumurap mga ilaw ng auto mo

magandang alternator or separate alternator para sa batt. ng sounds mo pero itoy advaisable lang sa mlakihang set-up. kung usual set-up lang naman klangan maganda at bago batt. mo at tama ang size ng power wire mo at tama ang grounding ng ampli mo.

Mga sirs any input on these subs? Which one is better po? Ist tym kong magsesetup eh. I have a sony explode cdx-GT45U hu po:

Alpine swe-12s4 12in/250w ;

Polk audio DB1240 DVC 12in/720w dual 4ohms;

JBL GTO1002d 10in/1000w;

JBL GTO1202D 12in/1200w

[jhnkvn]

Performance of a subwoofer is highly dependent on enclosure rather than the driver itself.

Tono ng subwoofer? That only depends if the threadstarter's going for ported where the box maker needs to pay attention to the box design itself.

Battery doesn't need to be brand-new. Just in good condition.

You don't really need to follow recommended subwoofer enclosures because of inherent cabin gain. There's good guidelines on how to get the ideal Qtc of .707 though.

[vonvergelenriqu]

mga boss ano po kaya mai-rerecommend nyo sa akin na amplifier para sa seps ko na candence zrs 6k at pioneer champion series ts w310 na sub, kung pwe pwede po sana ay 4 channel,

[jhnkvn]

mga boss ano po kaya mai-rerecommend nyo sa akin na amplifier para sa seps ko na candence zrs 6k at pioneer champion series ts w310 na sub, kung pwe pwede po sana ay 4 channel,

Anything that fits the budget and doesn't have a 4000W power tag attached to it. DC Audio PAI120.4s retails around 8,000php upwards nowadays I believe. We also have Sound Magnus and Firland Audio competing at a budget price tag. We also have the newly re-engineered Dominations Buddy amplifiers too at the 5k price point.

[kpy555]

Good HU and then a set of good separates. You don't actually need an amplifier to get superb and clear sound. Nasa pag-tono rin yan.

I did this to one of my vehicles - Pioneer DVD HU and Focal Separates without amps and sub. Perfectly clear sound.

BTW, my friend who installed the gears once joined a SQ competition using his car equipped with a nice Pioneer HU and Targa separates without amps and sub - and he won in a category (I forgot what was it called).

[Troy Inovero]

Good HU and then a set of good separates. You don't actually need an amplifier to get superb and clear sound. Nasa pag-tono rin yan.

I did this to one of my vehicles - Pioneer DVD HU and Focal Separates without amps and sub. Perfectly clear sound.

BTW, my friend who installed the gears once joined a SQ competition using his car equipped with a nice Pioneer HU and Targa separates without amps and sub - and he won in a category (I forgot what was it called).

Sir anu po Head Unit at Seps nyo? Pioneer + Focal din po kasi ako e.

[kpy555]

Sir anu po Head Unit at Seps nyo? Pioneer + Focal din po kasi ako e.

Pioneer X5550BT and Focal Integration (Universal 2-Way Seps and Coax). Used the stock wires lang. Simple install.