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    Quote Originally Posted by NMuranoZ51 View Post
    Wala akong alam sa mga sinasabi niyo pero binabasa ko lahat nang post niyo dito hahahaha #bored #LOL


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    hahaha sensya na sir ginulo lang kasi ang thread ni ts eh kung saan2 na napunta nakarating na ng china ang usapan hahaha

    pinaliliwanag ko lang kasi kay LL critic kaso nagpunta pa ng china lol.
    binabase ko kasi hatol ko sa car audio base sa narinig ko mismo di dahil kung sino ang kilala at may pangalan china man ito or gawa dito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasLi Art View Post
    hahaha sensya na sir ginulo lang kasi ang thread ni ts eh kung saan2 na napunta nakarating na ng china ang usapan hahaha

    pinaliliwanag ko lang kasi kay LL critic kaso nagpunta pa ng china lol.
    binabase ko kasi hatol ko sa car audio base sa narinig ko mismo di dahil kung sino ang kilala at may pangalan china man ito or gawa dito.
    Yep! You explain it well nga e!(GoodJob!).. Natatawa lang ako parang nagaaway na kayo hhahah bihira lang kase ako makakita ng isang thread na may pinagtatalunan XD #happy


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    Hahaha... ako pa naging crab mentality

    Yun nakakatawa dito di ko alam why you even deny that LL is a rebranded product eh rebrand naman talaga. Ano gusto mo sabihin ko? That they're great speakers? That they sound so good? Ano ako? Spokesperson ng Team LL? My posts are as much as possible bias-free and are fact-based.

    And duh.. alam ko pinas lang LL..

    Uhh... sorry, I don't join competitions usually. Para saan ba? Para magyabang na maganda setup? Namagaling ka sa pagbuo? I don't need all those ego-enhancements. I love cars, I love my audio.. but why the hell am I going to pay somebody just to prove myself? What I do is for my self-satisfaction.. my time isn't cheap. Besides, isang amplifier ko palang buong setup niyo na. (I just had to bold that one HAHA) So please, don't go there.. mapapahiya lang kayo

    Ayaw maniwala? Let's see.. magkano ba isang Lightning Lab na 4-channel.. *searches sulit* Ito! AMF-4100.. yun 4x100W * 4,000php! Just a heads up, you can get 20 of those 4-channels.. and my single 4-channel amplifier is still more expensive.

    As much as na-appreciate ko 12 years of hard work mo.. ano ipinakita mo? Na karpinetero ka? Anybody can build a box.. give them plywood.. give them nails. Amp. Kahit ang bulok bulok ko magDIY even I can build an enclosure. Ano gusto mo? L-type? Transmission? Flared horn? Aperiodic? Ginagawa mo sobrang hirap ang box construction when it's not.

    Okay.. madami ka napakingan.. sure tapos? Ipapagyabang mo kaya inilagay mo sa post? What makes you so sure that I haven't heard more or... maybe BETTER than yours? Problem is, ano yun standard mo?

    Alamin muna.. since I go around the world just to search for audio goodies... I also formerly compete professionally on an international scale. Di lang ako limited sa isang shop sa province or locally. So if I can attain that much in <5 years time... I'm kinda saddened sa 12 years mo so please don't bring out the "12 years of experience" flag.. since I probably have better credentials than you.

    Gamitin natin example mo..
    targa matigas bumayo
    manix malambot bumayo
    Alam mo matigas siya bumayo at si Manix ay malambot bumayo due to "experience". Ang tanong dyan.. alam mo ba kung bakit sila matigas at malambot? Ayan.. gamitin mo na si Google at maghanap kung bakit... parang eskwelahan lang regarding speaker design. Pahiramin pa kita ng libro paggusto mo..

    Music is emotion.. it's subjective. But audio is a science, it can be measured. I'm pretty sure they taught the difference of these sa high school. I give fellow tsikoteers that science. Kung magtatanong sila kung bakit masmaganda tumunog ang isang bagay, sinasabi ko on a science-level -- "dahil maganda pagkagawa ng crossovers", "dahil rigid ang enclosure niya", etc. hindi lang ako basta basta nagsasabi ng "maganda yan dahil napakingan ko na".

    Yun nakakatawa dito ay hindi ko naman sinisiraan si LL.. sinasabi ko lang rebrander siya which is a FACT. Hell, I already gave FIFTEEN examples of why. On the thread, I simply echoed some of what forumers here said. Kung nasasaktan ka kasi nasabi ko rebrander si LL.. ano gusto mo sabihin ko? It's like I'm going to call a television a TV. Ano gusto mo sabihin ko? na-radyo siya? Kung TV ede TV. Kung rebrander ede rebrander.

    I was pretty sure na nagbigay ako ng at least 15 examples kanina kung rebrander si LL. Why oh why is it so hard to see kung nakakabasa ka naman?
    Last edited by jhnkvn; March 5th, 2014 at 03:16 AM. Reason: Di ko alam kung maawa ako, maiinis, o matatawa -_-

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    Paanong naging insecure, sinabi lang naman na rebrander? Madami din naman rebranders sa market like sa Engine oils ng Idemitsu rebranded as Honda Oil, SM Bonus Products, Kirkland branded products at madami pang iba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpet626 View Post
    Paanong naging insecure, sinabi lang naman na rebrander? Madami din naman rebranders sa market like sa Engine oils ng Idemitsu rebranded as Honda Oil, SM Bonus Products, Kirkland branded products at madami pang iba.
    For some reason, iba ata definition ng rebrander sa dictionary niya. So konting napapaisip ako whether sira ba ulo ko as he claimed or normal lang ako

    Dunno why.. I took up his advice (yun "oopps? sasabihin mo dika naninira basa basa ulet siguro sa sarili mong reply.") and reread kung may nilagay ba ako doon na "*** si LL" or something pero wala ako mahanap.

    Yun nabasa ko yun..
    hirap sayo brad kung ano ano pinagsasabi mo simple lang naman topic dito humihingi ng tulong si TS di yung paninira lang alam mo.
    Eh binasa ko naman talaga yun first post..

    Quote Originally Posted by laurent08 View Post
    mga sir tanong lang po, ano po bang magandang brand sa 2? ang kwento po kasi ganito, namimili po ako between brand new na lightning lab na separates or second hand na jbl separates
    Maayos naman reply ko -_-
    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    In terms of brand, obviously JBL wins hands-down. LL is simply a China-rebrand retailer much like CDR-King while JBL is part of Harman Group and is prestigious enough that most people know who they are.
    Di ko alam bakit nagdradrama si JasLi..
    Last edited by jhnkvn; March 5th, 2014 at 03:27 AM.

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    woohoo nakakatuwa ang sagutan at nakakatuwa din kasi kahit papaano may natutunan ako mga yan :D wala pong pikunan ha mwah

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