Full active setup...

[Mschumacher]

Guys I've been planning on setting up my Kia Carens. Here is what I have in mind. For the headunit I'll get a pioneer avh p4150. For the subs is image dynamics ID8 v.3 (Can't go bigger than 8", Space issue) for seps wala pa akong naiisip and for amps wala pa din. I need a 3 way seps nga pala. I want a good setup with minimal cost, plus it should be pillar type. I need advice on what seps, amps and crossover to use. Sa subs kung may alternative sa Image dynamics na mas mura e di mas ok.

[Pajerokid29]

Guys I've been planning on setting up my Kia Carens. Here is what I have in mind. For the headunit I'll get a pioneer avh p4150. For the subs is image dynamics ID8 v.3 (Can't go bigger than 8", Space issue) for seps wala pa akong naiisip and for amps wala pa din. I need a 3 way seps nga pala. I want a good setup with minimal cost, plus it should be pillar type. I need advice on what seps, amps and crossover to use. Sa subs kung may alternative sa Image dynamics na mas mura e di mas ok.

Kung full active gusto as stated in your title, then start with a head unit na full active capable, (Alpine CDA 9887, Pioneer P800PRS, those kinda HU) then a total of atleast 5 available channels collectively sa amp if front stage lng gusto mo, pag pati likod atleast 9 (basta key is every speaker including tweeters should have it's own channel from the amp, or parallel wire mo, just make sure na magkakasama FL/FR/RR/RL mo) (1 mono and 1 4-channel) mono for subs then connect mo sa SUB output ng HU, ung isang 4-channel mo kabit mo sa front output, then each channel would power your midbass and tweets, same for rear which is connected to rear output of HU, di mo na kelanagan pa ng crossovers even if your speakers comes with passives, as for speakers, wag coax kasi the tweeters are integrated sa mids so ndi mo sya macocontrol independently, sa subs na 8" I think may nagbebenta before ng solobaric na 8" L7, , for seps, RYAN Audio, medyo budget, highend are Morel, DLS, Rainbow, check Hertz na DSK, ganda! goodluck with your Active Setup! if you need further help just PM me

[Mschumacher]

Kung full active gusto as stated in your title, then start with a head unit na full active capable, (Alpine CDA 9887, Pioneer P800PRS, those kinda HU) then a total of atleast 5 available channels collectively sa amp if front stage lng gusto mo, pag pati likod atleast 9 (basta key is every speaker including tweeters should have it's own channel from the amp, or parallel wire mo, just make sure na magkakasama FL/FR/RR/RL mo) (1 mono and 1 4-channel) mono for subs then connect mo sa SUB output ng HU, ung isang 4-channel mo kabit mo sa front output, then each channel would power your midbass and tweets, same for rear which is connected to rear output of HU, di mo na kelanagan pa ng crossovers even if your speakers comes with passives, as for speakers, wag coax kasi the tweeters are integrated sa mids so ndi mo sya macocontrol independently, sa subs na 8" I think may nagbebenta before ng solobaric na 8" L7, , for seps, RYAN Audio, medyo budget, highend are Morel, DLS, Rainbow, check Hertz na DSK, ganda! goodluck with your Active Setup! if you need further help just PM me

Sir yung headunit na Im getting has a fl fr rr rl and a sub out with a voltage output of 4v. What I have in mind is a good sub like image dynamic ID8 v.3. so kailangan ko ng two amps ba sir kasi gusto ko sana 3 way sa harap e nasa pilar ang tweeter and vocal and nasa pinto ang mid bass. then sa rear door ko balak ko wala ng amp diretso na sa unit. so ang kailangan ko ba e 7 channels all in all. ano ang pwede kong gamitin na amp. ok lang ba ang v12 na 2 - 4channel to power it all up. or should I get a good amp as well din. Thanks...

[xtian_joyaxx]

Sir..with your amp if you haven't got one atm best to save your money get a decent amplifier don't go with generic amps..remember "what you pay is what you get" ..based on my experience minimal cost or budget I end-up spending more.. whats your plan with your 8".. seald(make it sure compatible ito for seald dahil saw a 8" JL audio sub in seald natanggal yong dustcap sa harap) or ported? My suggestion go with 10" seald if space a problem..and hindi naman gaano malaki ang 10" sir.. if I would go for 8" I'll put them in a ported enclosure( but then again in a bigger enclosure 1.75cb/ft tuned to 32hz)...

try JBL amp and speakers they are not that expensive and has a very good reputation as well( im a jbl fan)...pero all the suggestion here were base sa mga taste namin..always follow your ears..dahil ikaw yong nakikinig.. choosing a system sir you need to consider/plan how much power your car can provide.. two or more amps fine depend how big ang set-up mo..saying this you need to plan again where are you going to hide this amps( if space a problem)..dahil meron naman mga amps ngayon 5 channels (4 channel + 1 sub)

always take your time..magwindow shopping ka and ask the store if they got a demo car.. good luck

[Pajerokid29]

Sir yung headunit na Im getting has a fl fr rr rl and a sub out with a voltage output of 4v. What I have in mind is a good sub like image dynamic ID8 v.3. so kailangan ko ng two amps ba sir kasi gusto ko sana 3 way sa harap e nasa pilar ang tweeter and vocal and nasa pinto ang mid bass. then sa rear door ko balak ko wala ng amp diretso na sa unit. so ang kailangan ko ba e 7 channels all in all. ano ang pwede kong gamitin na amp. ok lang ba ang v12 na 2 - 4channel to power it all up. or should I get a good amp as well din. Thanks...

What head unit are you planning to use? because not all 6 preout H/U are full active capable, some might just be a 2-way active H/U which controls you Highpass and lowpass but you would also need to control your bandpass (the gap between the HPF and LPF) and check up to what frequency your HU can go from it's LPF to it's HPF, may iba kasi na may HPF nga pero until 125HZ lng, as for your question kung ok na ang V12? on paper yes, pero it's up to you, I'd suggest a good four channel amp. as for wiring them, are you planning to connect the sub sa V12? if so then tama ka, 7 channels would do. here's how it shoud look like: 1st V12 amp (4ch) CH1 & CH2 - Tweets with HPF set at around 1KHZ or higher, CH3 & CH4 - Full-range (vocal), 2nd V12 amp CH1 & CH2 Midbass, CH3 and CH4 bridged to power the sub.if I were you, yung rear speakers ko kakabit ko sa amp, yung tweeter can share the channels for your front vocals since high frequency naman pplay nila e, you can wire the vocals and midbass i parallel to cut the resistance in half for your V12's to produce twice its power, just make sure your speakers won't give your amp a final ohm reading of 1 or lower kasi AFAIK, 2-ohm stable lang ang V12's. kung taga south ka lang maybe I can help you.

[Mschumacher]

What head unit are you planning to use? because not all 6 preout H/U are full active capable, some might just be a 2-way active H/U which controls you Highpass and lowpass but you would also need to control your bandpass (the gap between the HPF and LPF) and check up to what frequency your HU can go from it's LPF to it's HPF, may iba kasi na may HPF nga pero until 125HZ lng, as for your question kung ok na ang V12? on paper yes, pero it's up to you, I'd suggest a good four channel amp. as for wiring them, are you planning to connect the sub sa V12? if so then tama ka, 7 channels would do. here's how it shoud look like: 1st V12 amp (4ch) CH1 & CH2 - Tweets with HPF set at around 1KHZ or higher, CH3 & CH4 - Full-range (vocal), 2nd V12 amp CH1 & CH2 Midbass, CH3 and CH4 bridged to power the sub.if I were you, yung rear speakers ko kakabit ko sa amp, yung tweeter can share the channels for your front vocals since high frequency naman pplay nila e, you can wire the vocals and midbass i parallel to cut the resistance in half for your V12's to produce twice its power, just make sure your speakers won't give your amp a final ohm reading of 1 or lower kasi AFAIK, 2-ohm stable lang ang V12's. kung taga south ka lang maybe I can help you.

Thank you sir pajerokid for the reply. Yung HU na makukuha ko is not capable of full active pala e. it has 6 pre outs but two of each lang front, rear, and sub. What if I do it like this I'll get one 3 way active crossover to filter the frequency for my 3-way speaker. Then I'll set the crossover to front only then from there I'll filter the frequencies for tweeter, vocals and mid bass. then for the rear speakers I'll directly get the line from the headunit same goes for the subs. but the sub will definitely go through an amplifier. but for the rear it may or may not pass an ampli. if this would work would I still be needing the passive crossover that goes with the 3 way seps. thanks again for the help. What would be the best cheap amps, 3 way seps, crossover and subs you could suggest. What I have in mind is firland amps, dls seps, any 3 way crossover and image dynamics 8" subs.

[xtian_joyaxx]

Thank you sir pajerokid for the reply. Yung HU na makukuha ko is not capable of full active pala e. it has 6 pre outs but two of each lang front, rear, and sub. What if I do it like this I'll get one 3 way active crossover to filter the frequency for my 3-way speaker. Then I'll set the crossover to front only then from there I'll filter the frequencies for tweeter, vocals and mid bass. then for the rear speakers I'll directly get the line from the headunit same goes for the subs. but the sub will definitely go through an amplifier. but for the rear it may or may not pass an ampli. if this would work would I still be needing the passive crossover that goes with the 3 way seps. thanks again for the help. What would be the best cheap amps, 3 way seps, crossover and subs you could suggest. What I have in mind is firland amps, dls seps, any 3 way crossover and image dynamics 8" subs.

Sir mawalang galang po pa interrup sa inyo ulit... Sir medyo complicated ang plano ninyo more likely maraming kang makukuhang problema pagganyan set-up mo.. make your set-up simple as much as possible..two decent amps a "2 channel amps" and a "4 channel amp" or 1 mono amp and a 4 channel amp(if you dont want the 5 chanel amp)this will solve your problem.. dont worry at the moment with the ACTIVE x-over..and why not to worry coz if you buy this 3 way components already includes passive x-over.. just connect it straight to your 4ch amp(frnt/rear) and let the amps x-over do the job to cut the frequency.(wag yong mga generic na amps po sir dahil lalo sasakit ang ulo mo hindi reliable ang x-over nito) the 2nd mono-channel amp will power your sub.. Dont use your headunit alone to power the rear speakers (kung ito sa isa sa mga plano mo) more likely it will peak or clip soon enough..dyan ka magproblema baka hindi mo yan mamalayan nanagclip napala ang lingkod dahil sa lakas ng front ends mo..always use an amp the more power youll give to your speakers the cleaner it sounds..

"What if I do it like this I'll get one 3 way active crossover to filter the frequency for my 3-way speaker. "

if this is the case you will need more amps(3 amps or 1 2-chan for tweeters and a 4-chan for mid and woofer) for the front, 1 amp for the rear and another amp for the sub..:nerves: sir again make it simple..

What would be the best cheap amps, 3 way seps, crossover and subs you could suggest. What I have in mind is firland amps, dls seps, any 3 way crossover and image dynamics 8" subs.

choosing a speakers it will depend on how much you want to spend and kung ano ang comfortable sa tinga mo and would go for line-driver(it will help boost the signal from your HU) instead po sir ng Active X-over dahil yong 4volts mo sa HU hindi nayan 4volts pagdating sa amps mo at lalo lagyan mo pang active xover.. para walang regrets magaudi ka at pakkingan mo ang details bawat spkears sir ..dahil nangyari na sa akin ito may nagsuggest sa akin na brand (mamahalin) pinakinggan at nagustuhan ko pero my only mistake was im so anxious and cant wait..meron pa pala masganda at mura pa.. good luck

[xtian_joyaxx]

Sorry po na double post..