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    My 5mo old X595BT suddenly wouldn't boot. It was working prior to parking then when I am about leave, it did not power on when I started the car. I thought there are busted fuse in my car but testing them yielded good results. I went back to the store and they pulled it out. Good thing I did not sell the stock HU and panels for my vios so I have asked the installer to install it back for the meantime. Hope it gets repaired / replaced soon as I can definitely hear the difference in sound quality.

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    Hi im new to all this audio stuff so im looking for some help.

    I drive a 2017 vios J it doesnt have rear speakers as stock so I had some sony coaxials put in. Now im thinking of adding a sub or getting component speakers up front. Would it be worth it? or should i invest in a better headunit first? the stock headunit has one pair of rca so i think it would be fine if i got a sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmat20 View Post
    Hi im new to all this audio stuff so im looking for some help.

    I drive a 2017 vios J it doesnt have rear speakers as stock so I had some sony coaxials put in. Now im thinking of adding a sub or getting component speakers up front. Would it be worth it? or should i invest in a better headunit first? the stock headunit has one pair of rca so i think it would be fine if i got a sub.
    For starters, I think:

    1. A good 10-15k set of component front speakers/tweeters
    2. Deadening - ~5k
    3. New Head unit

    Unless you play your music very loud, I think most people will be happy with #1 and #2 palang.

    If you're past #3, look into adding an amplifier and a sub.

    Personal disclosure, hanggang #1 lang ako usually; #3 when the stock unit dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    For starters, I think:

    1. A good 10-15k set of component front speakers/tweeters
    2. Deadening - ~5k
    3. New Head unit

    Unless you play your music very loud, I think most people will be happy with #1 and #2 palang.

    If you're past #3, look into adding an amplifier and a sub.

    Personal disclosure, hanggang #1 lang ako usually; #3 when the stock unit dies.
    Thank you for the advise! I'll listen to you and d3nb3r and shelve my plans for a sub and focus on getting a set of components first

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    For starters, I think:

    1. A good 10-15k set of component front speakers/tweeters
    2. Deadening - ~5k
    3. New Head unit

    Unless you play your music very loud, I think most people will be happy with #1 and #2 palang.

    If you're past #3, look into adding an amplifier and a sub.

    Personal disclosure, hanggang #1 lang ako usually; #3 when the stock unit dies.
    i went for #1 and #2 and i'm happy with it. no need for a subwoofer as well as the lows are enough with my listening preference.

    it's only lately that i am thinking of going to upgrade to #3 as i need a good bluetooth connectivity and music streaming functionality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    i went for #1 and #2 and i'm happy with it. no need for a subwoofer as well as the lows are enough with my listening preference.

    it's only lately that i am thinking of going to upgrade to #3 as i need a good bluetooth connectivity and music streaming functionality.
    If you don't want to spend a lot, there are some bluetooth adapters that will plug into the aux port if you have.

    Bali... usb powered, bluetooth device w/ mic <---> aux port ng car.

    I have a few of these kasi luma na lahat ng kotse namin hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    If you don't want to spend a lot, there are some bluetooth adapters that will plug into the aux port if you have.

    Bali... usb powered, bluetooth device w/ mic <---> aux port ng car.

    I have a few of these kasi luma na lahat ng kotse namin hehe
    glad you mentioned. i remember meron ako bluetooth usb dongles that i bought before. masubukan nga. again, thanks!

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    Any reputable car shops in Malolos area that can do sound setups and deadening? TIA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmat20 View Post
    Would it be worth it?
    Most if not all loves that extra low frequency oomph so yeah.
    or should i invest in a better headunit first?
    If you have the budget why not.
    the stock headunit has one pair of rca so i think it would be fine if i got a sub.
    you'll need an amp to power that sub.

    Follow mda's advice, just get the highest sensitivity that you can afford on your component speakers if HU lang gamit mo. And if kulang pa then get an amp for your component speakers and if kulang pa rin add a sub and mono amp.

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    there may be a geometric relation between increase in sound quality and increase in price.
    good luck, sir.
    don't be bitten by the audio bug. "it has no cure."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    there may be a geometric relation between increase in sound quality and increase in price.
    good luck, sir.
    don't be bitten by the audio buy.
    I remember our CR-V 98, the speakers were bad already and I couldn't stand the quality of music since I'm always driving for 160 km one way. I finally decided to upgrade which cost me 50,000 for DLS setup by that time.

    As it was installed, the music won't play properly. I was informed that the old head unit is no longer compatibility with the amplifier and so on and so forth. I had no choice but to buy another head unit that costed me an additional 25,000. My wife was giving me the "stare". I just smiled back stroked her hair...

    If I went to some shops "without name", I don't think it would have costed me like this. However, I don't know what to look for and I'm not sure if the brand DLS is original or not so I opted for this shop in Makati.

    Why is it that I didn't know about this forum before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    I remember our CR-V 98, the speakers were bad already and I couldn't stand the quality of music since I'm always driving for 160 km one way. I finally decided to upgrade which cost me 50,000 for DLS setup by that time.

    As it was installed, the music won't play properly. I was informed that the old head unit is no longer compatibility with the amplifier and so on and so forth. I had no choice but to buy another head unit that costed me an additional 25,000. My wife was giving me the "stare". I just smiled back stroked her hair...

    If I went to some shops "without name", I don't think it would have costed me like this. However, I don't know what to look for and I'm not sure if the brand DLS is original or not so I opted for this shop in Makati.

    Why is it that I didn't know about this forum before?
    Don't like to say it pero parang naloko kayo sir a :/

    If the audio shop knew what it was it was doing, they'd have recommended something that WOULD have been compatible. Or they did know that the parts weren't compatible and got you to shell out more money for it :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Don't like to say it pero parang naloko kayo sir a :/

    If the audio shop knew what it was it was doing, they'd have recommended something that WOULD have been compatible. Or they did know that the parts weren't compatible and got you to shell out more money for it :/
    The setup for DLS is already posted in their site for 50,000. I already knew the price when I went there. What I wasn't​ aware of was the compatibility of the head unit. There were other brands but I wanted to maintain the original brand so I opted for Kenwood. Pioneer is much cheaper and I think there shouldn't be any difference for someone like me who knows nothing about this kind of setup.

    Surely, the price of the head unit should be much cheaper to other shops but I don't have much time to look for it and I wanted to finish the job so it was more like "I don't have much choice".

    EDIT: You should check Mickey's where according to that guy I met said he spent about 350,000 for the sound setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmat20 View Post
    Hi im new to all this audio stuff so im looking for some help.

    I drive a 2017 vios J it doesnt have rear speakers as stock so I had some sony coaxials put in. Now im thinking of adding a sub or getting component speakers up front. Would it be worth it? or should i invest in a better headunit first? the stock headunit has one pair of rca so i think it would be fine if i got a sub.
    Since the rear are coaxials I would assume that the soundstage is now pushed at the rear. The stock VIOS speakers are just plain speakers. Technically speaking, your rears are now better sounding that those in front and might push the soundstage towards the rear.

    For me, a better sounding system consist of a better soundstage plus adequate power.

    I have a VIOS E and I've replaced the stock HU with a Pioneer X595BT. Immediately, the sound became better and louder. The time alignment feature provides great improvement in the sonic quality. Even listening to AM radio became enjoyable as the sound doesn't sound as diffused unlike in the stock HU. The vocals appear to be in the center (this of course, after time alignment trial and error adjustments).

    My next project now is to have some deadening and the stock speakers replaced as I can now hear rattles during mid-volume.

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    Wow!!! Gaganda

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    INPUTS please. What choices do I have when it comes to DSP that is capable of IOS (IPAD,IPHONE) tuning? Wala na akong PCs and LAPTOPS since I migrated to MAC and IOS. Ayoko naman bumili ng laptop just to tune my DSP. Suggestions guys?

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    I am currently setting up a budget for a good-enough system.

    Car: 2014 Mazda 3
    Budget: 20-30k
    Source: Spotify Premium over Bluetooth.

    Two options:
    1. Get an all-branded (JBL most probably) seps-amp-sub setup in one sitting, or
    2. Get seps first (20k budget), then amp (no idea) then sub staggered over a few months.

    Will I hear a difference in quality between options 1 and 2 considering my source? I don't think I will be upgrading to any high-end formats any time soon. I don't even have CDs anymore

    Mickey's 50k Hertz package is tempting.

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    *JohnM - ask Mickey if he has a Focal or DLS package. I'd with any of those two brands. Maybe third option is Morel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    I am currently setting up a budget for a good-enough system.

    Car: 2014 Mazda 3
    Budget: 20-30k
    Source: Spotify Premium over Bluetooth.

    Two options:
    1. Get an all-branded (JBL most probably) seps-amp-sub setup in one sitting, or
    2. Get seps first (20k budget), then amp (no idea) then sub staggered over a few months.

    Will I hear a difference in quality between options 1 and 2 considering my source? I don't think I will be upgrading to any high-end formats any time soon. I don't even have CDs anymore

    Mickey's 50k Hertz package is tempting.
    imo, both options are good.

    i did option 2 sa suv ko, good quality seps saka deadening ng front doors. tonality wise big improvement siya same source as yours spotify saka dap with hi-res music. until now wala pa ako urge to add amp and a sub, ok na ako sa sound ng hu at seps.

    i did option 1 sa car at van ko. palit lahat in one sitting. ok din naman if may enough budget ka. isang gastusan na lang, hassle din kasi magpabalik-balik pa sa installer lalo kung malayo ka.

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