Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[Starex_Gold]

yup weekly daw dapat sabi ng german friend ko kasi nga e yung garage ko walang bubong kasi next year pa matapos yung new house and with bubong na yung garage at 2 kasya na SUV.

since walang bubong e open na open sa ulat at araw. kaya dapat daw weekly gawin.

Ibig sabihin walang time interval?

After i-buff yung NanoGLOS, apply agad ng Carnauba?

[dbhollanda]

Ibig sabihin walang time interval?

After i-buff yung NanoGLOS, apply agad ng Carnauba?

mga 30min lang ang pagitan bago i-apply yung carnauba...then i-buff ko na ulit..then after 30min yung sealer na...

[madkatz]

maam if ever na gagamitin itong mothers step 2 and carlack68 LLS, ano ang mauuna dapat? or ano ang wag nang iaaply dahil useless din.

Hmm for me what you could do is use Step 2 and then do an IPA wipe to remove the oils before using LLS, it still won't be as good as using LLS with NSC but it will help bond better after using step 2

[madkatz]

eto naman ang aking simpleng detailing for my beloved car...

every sunday ng gabi ko ginagawa ang ritual ko mga 3 hours...

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...hoto-0016.jpg?

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...hoto-0018.jpg?

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...hoto-0017.jpg?

wow very nice ritual and i could say you really maintained the shine

[madkatz]

simple lang yan baka magulat kyo sa steps and product na gamit ko...hehehe

shampoo
nano glos
carnauba
nano sliq

yan ang tip sa kin ng german kong friend na pag nakita mo sa super kintab ng 911 at m5 nya e para kang nananalamin hehehe. at tip nya dapat weekly daw gawin yan para di mawala ang mirror-like finish...

hehehe well i won't be surprised, for a well maintained car, even if you don't put any wax or sealant on it would still look great, as they say the perfect shine is 90% preparation and maintenance and 10% wax or sealant

If its not covered when parked then his tip is really true, weekly waxing would really maintain the great shine of the car but hands down very good job in maintaining the finish

[madkatz]

yung Nanoglos walang carnauba diba? If so, ibig sabihin ba nun hindi ko pwedeng gamitin yung Nanoglos as LSP? or does it have synthetic ingredients or anything that makes it a good LSP as well? gusto ko sana gawing LSP yung Nanoglos kasi after niyan eh pagod na ko wala na kong lakas magapply ng 476s haha. How long kaya will it last kung gawin ko siyang LSP? 2 weeks to 1 month? same as other OTC LSPs or shorter? gusto ko lang malaman kung kailan ako dapat magwax ulit pag ginawa kong LSP ang Nanoglos if ever. Thanks!

Nano Glos has carnauba

Yes you can use it as a LSP and it does offer substantial protection but not as long as some really tough sealant, but easily longer than most OTC waxes

Its a hybrid LSP thats both wax and sealant

Well if you use Nano Glos only, my best bet would be 2 weeks maximum and even less if it frequently rains, so if you're concerned about time and effort waxing you are still better off putting 476 after Nano Glos this way you could go as much as 1 month without waxing again.

[madkatz]

HUWAAAAATTT!!!??? 30 days!!! mahirap yata tiising na di mag-detail nun!

does this mean that i can't top the paint with any protection, meaning I'll have to rely on my clear coat for a full month???

naku magkakasakit yata ako.

You would need to rely on glazes, with glazes you might have to apply it weekly since they last a lot less compared to waxes and there's also a learning curve when it comes to removing glazes, if you have time drop by dwins place i think he has a breathable wax somewhere, mine's still in novaliches hidden somewhere, he could give you some m80 speed glaze for temporary uses or some Zwax which is body shop safe.

[madkatz]

If you seal new paint with wax or sealant, you'll find out later on that there will be tiny bubbles (paint pop) and dulling of the clear coat. I know because where I live, the paint shop automatically waxes their new paint jobs and virtually all of them had paint pop and looks dull after about a year. Still, the shop owner insists on his method because he says the wax gives shine and gloss and the paint popping and dulling is a result of poor maintenance (i.e. not applying wax). I had to show him pages of internet forum threads on the topic before he was convinced to not wax his paint jobs.

actually waxing would definitely dull the paint, and even if the paint is bare it could look really good already even without wax so his paint is a little moot, but the tiny bubbles can also be caused by a lot of factors mostly because of a mistake during the drying stage.

[madkatz]

*madkatz
Hi ma'am! Regarding curing time, will it also apply to my waxing procedure which is step1(moms), step2(moms), 476s, nanosliq? If yes, for how long? If no, does it mean I can just apply and buff one after another? Thanks!

with your procedure you don't need to wait before applying the next products, curing time is only applied when applying LSP's ( wax or sealant ) over LSP

[madkatz]

Guys,
Aside from Porter Cable, anong machine ang locally available na ok for beginners? Thanks!

You can also check out the Bosch orbital polisher, its about double the price compared to KP600 but it can already accept the pads, it also has a speed dial where you can adjust the speed, but it would only have enough power for light correction which is a better investment IMO compared to kp600

[madkatz]

mga 30min lang ang pagitan bago i-apply yung carnauba...then i-buff ko na ulit..then after 30min yung sealer na...

What carnauba wax do you use?

[dbhollanda]

What carnauba wax do you use?

mothers yung carnauba wax.

[raine]

di ba masmaganda sealant ang first, then carnauba wax ang last,?
masmaganda ba kung 2 coat ang carlack68 LLS.any time interval sa application ng sealant to sealant and wax. kung gagamitin ay carlack68 LLS and mothers california gold wax?

[Starex_Gold]

You would need to rely on glazes, with glazes you might have to apply it weekly since they last a lot less compared to waxes and there's also a learning curve when it comes to removing glazes, if you have time drop by dwins place i think he has a breathable wax somewhere, mine's still in novaliches hidden somewhere, he could give you some m80 speed glaze for temporary uses or some Zwax which is body shop safe.

Hayy. I have to use glaze on the 3 panels of my Tucson for 2 months!

Na scratch ng brother ko sa parking lot ng G4.

Pwede naman yung Mothers Sealer n Glaze diba?

[Chikselog]

*SG
Pwede naman siguro yung Moms Step 2 since di naman siya wax, makakahinga pa rin yung paint.

Di bale bawian mo na lang ng 2 coats KSG at 2 coats 915 yan pag pwede na. :naughty2:

[SIZE="1"]Isama mo na OGE.[/SIZE]

[Starex_Gold]

Hehehehe

Bibigyan mo ako ng OGE, diba? nyahaha

Baka nga lalong tumagal pa yung curing time kasi hindi na 'to nabibilad sa araw, palaging nasa garage nalang. Lately di ko ginagamit.

[Chikselog]

Sabi ko sayo puntahan mo ko sa school eh. :naughty2:

Bigyan kita, mga 10ml. Hahaha.

Kidding aside, hmm siguro pwede mo naman siya itapat sa araw paminsan-minsan. Ilabas mo ng covered part ng garage nyo or something like that. Pero kapag kumukulimlim ang panahon, nako pasok agad ng garahe. :bwahaha:

[jmpet626]

baka meron interested sa Zaino Z2 Pro meron kasi ako sobra isa

[Nik]

baka meron interested sa Zaino Z2 Pro meron kasi ako sobra isa

sir paki text po yung price.. 0927 430 55 38 or 0932 758 77 90..

sakto sir !! nag hahanap ako ng sealant na pang tatapal sa KSG.. tip po kasi ni madkatz na use different kind of sealant if gusto lagpas 3 layers

*sir baka may ZFX na sobra din? hehe tama ba ZFX name nun? hehe

*guys may tanong ako bakit 3k yung set ng klasse .. compare sa carlack68 na 1.2k NSC and 1.4k yung LLS.. pero diba same product lang sila

[jmpet626]

Texted u sir about sa Z2. Yung sa autobisyo klasse kit yung benta niya may mga towels at applicator pads pang kasama yung 3k.