Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[madkatz]

sir, ultimate ba yang Klasse kit? ano gamit ng KAIO? KSG? ano ang mga counterparts nito sa mothers/meguiars?

Sadly Mothers doesn't have any counterparts for those, the closest it has to KAIO is the Synwax Paste, as for Meguiars they don't have KAIO or any cleaner sealant but they do have a sealant which is the M21.

[madkatz]

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question lang po san kayo nakakabili ng ONR and how much? Thanks

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[jed_015]

Sir khit silver pa sasakyan mo ok pa din mga yan. And pagdating sa protection I guess di hamak na mas matibay mga yan kaysa mothers products.

salamat sa advice sir will try that collinite pag medyo marunong na ako sa detailing... maraming salamat talaga sir..

[madkatz]

Hindi idol. Nauubos time ko kaka-wash at application ng opt/collinite na binili natin. Hirap kasi pag street parking + rainy season + pedestrians + black car + OC ka! hahaha! Sakit ulo ko sa mga scratches. Still trying to inject the fact na hindi maiiwasan sa black ang pagiging sensitive sa swirls, scratches, and waterspots. Mukang kelangan ko na talaga ng machine.

Well its really hard to maintain black, and it also practically impossible to keep it 100% swirl free, my biggest problem is with my dad, he can't help himself wipe the paint with his good old tshirt when he see's its dirty, i even gave him a detail kit! includes QD, MF's, dusters, and DP Waterless wash and he's not using it! it all just boils down to how long you can stand having the swirls before you eventually polish it out, now if you're planning on keeping the car for a long time and you think that you would polish your car 4 times in its whole lifetime then getting a machine is already advisable.

[jed_015]

*electone

Ano mas ok yung zaino or yung wolfgang? Na try ko na wolfgang ganda ng shine same sila ng collinite 915 pero super dali i buff off. Mahirap lang mag apply ng wolfgang ngayon kasi tag ulan. Di pala pwede mabasa yung car for 24 hours pagka wolfgang sealant.

*jed
Mas tipid pagka paste at konting pahid lang sa applicator pad mo malaking area na ma cocover. Na try ko na yung FX synwax na liquid at yung step 3 na paste parehas silang hindi tumatagal.

ahh kaya pala mas mahal..yung protection ba yung sinasabi niyo sir na hindi tumatagal??

[madkatz]

idol, matagal mo magagamit yung aio/ksg combo. Kasi konting-konti lang ang pag-apply nun.

Recommended application is by machine para mas even and as thin as possible ang application.

yup 1 500ml of KSG can be applied to up to 30 cars, its true that machine application will give you a higher chance of getting better results but it also consumes more products, so we stick to hand application, the amount you save is a lot.

[jmpet626]

Mga 2 washes lang ala ng beading at shine.. Unlike collinite 476s/915 malakas pa din beading after a month and after washing and drying parang newly waxed pa din yung paint

[madkatz]

Hello mga masters, anong mga detergent/soap ba mare-recommend nyo for washing microfiber? ung mabibili locally. thx

Like what SG said Perla White for final rinsing and washing, if you're dealing with heavy waxes use Tide the one with grease something, and then soak it on perla and let it sit for sometime before you rinse it and hang dry, don't dry it under the sun, just let it air dry away from the sun, this will keep your MF's soft longer.

[jed_015]

haha try to look around you might find some of those items at a lower price than compared to blade, just do a quick search at google and maybe you can find a deal, the Jerome of autobisyo has some really cheap prices to offer so you also might want to look at his trade, he also has megs which is quite similar to mothers at a much much lower price, same goes with the claybar kit.

thanks ma'm madkatz..binili ko nalang yung sa mothers ma'm kasi sabi niyo po mas malaki yung clay bar niya??may nakita ako ma'm sa sulit kaya lang kapresyo lang sa blade..hehe..i sent you pm ma'm madkatz

[madkatz]

Yung Megs na D151 paint reconditioning creme at m66 all in one pero hindi ko sure kung kasing tibay niya yung KAIO

the protection these offer is very very minimal no where near KAIO

[jed_015]

Mga 2 washes lang ala ng beading at shine.. Unlike collinite 476s/915 malakas pa din beading after a month and after washing and drying parang newly waxed pa din yung paint

ayy ganun ba sir..sige sir pagisipan ko yan..medyo naguluhan na ata ako..pero anyway try ko pa rin intindihin..thanks sir!!!

[madkatz]

Thanks, SG! Kung naalala mo Wolfgang yung gamit ko dati. Eh naka order ako ng Zaino, kaya naitabi na muna yung Wolfgang.

Hindi LED light yan, haha, chrome accent lang na nilagay ko para makita sa dilim yung side mirror.

Haha those two are within my top 5 Paint sealants. Did you use ZFX? for faster cure time? even if its stated that using ZFX will cure instantly we noticed its still best after about 2 hours, and layering above 4 coats will really take it to a whole new level of gloss. Great job on the car!

[madkatz]

Super magstart pa lang ako sir talaga..natatakot nga akong gamitin yung clay bar kasi baka malaglag sayang pera ko..thanks sa suggestion sir,medyo kapos pa sa budget e..hindi ko nga nabili yung mothers fx kasi nagtaka ako bakit mas mahal paste wax kesa liquid..mas maganda ba effect ng paste??

the synwax paste for me is better, we actually use it sometimes on silver cars and to be honest im impressed with the durability its noticeable better than the liquid version and its also more economical

[jmpet626]

yup 1 500ml of KSG can be applied to up to 30 cars, its true that machine application will give you a higher chance of getting better results but it also consumes more products, so we stick to hand application, the amount you save is a lot.

How does using a machine consume more product? Dahil po ba to sa need i prime yung pad with a lot of product pagka 1st time use ng pad? Ako kasi pag hand application parang mas maraming product ang nagagamit ko hehe or baka masyado madami lang ako maglagay ng product sa applicator pad?

[jed_015]

the synwax paste for me is better, we actually use it sometimes on silver cars and to be honest im impressed with the durability its noticeable better than the liquid version and its also more economical

yown ma'm madkatz!silyado na utak ko about synwax..thanks sa help ma'm..sana matuwa ako sa kalalabasan..thaaaanks!!!

[madkatz]

How does using a machine consume more product? Dahil po ba to sa need i prime yung pad with a lot of product pagka 1st time use ng pad? Ako kasi pag hand application parang mas maraming product ang nagagamit ko hehe or baka masyado madami lang ako maglagay ng product sa applicator pad?

Yes its because the pads used with the machine absorbs more products, its not actually more on the priming that makes it absorb more, its more on the volume of the pad that absorbs more, we actually tested which method consumes the most products with KAIO, with Hand Application, Rotary like what BB does and with PC, of all the PC consumes the most and the hand application consumes the least, the product volume used was measured using a syringe.

[madkatz]

yown ma'm madkatz!silyado na utak ko about synwax..thanks sa help ma'm..sana matuwa ako sa kalalabasan..thaaaanks!!!

Haha i hope you like the effects but there's also a reason why nearly everyone here thats tried collinite became a convert, and the paste version of synwax goes for 1.4k thats already pretty much like the paste sapphire from autobisyo if its still on sale, so i would recommend collinite for durability and FX paste for ease of use. with both cases you could add Nano Glos to fill the swirls first.

[jed_015]

Originally Posted by PSI
WHAT: DETAILING SEMINAR
WHEN: 09.12.11 (SUNDAY)
WHERE: MASTER'S DOJO..... LOOK AND YOU SHALL FIND
TIME: 8:00 AM

TOPICS
novice
1) Product knowledge (di po brainwashing.... me libreng pagong wax kung gusto ninyo...libre gamit ng polisher para sureball ang kapit)
2) How to properly wash your car (do's and don'ts)=== whole car (guinea pig)
3) step 1-2-3 (4? wag na next time ) === 1 panel only....

urangutang na sa semminar
1) WASH -CLAY- SEAL ---- 2 cars will be use..... first 2 urangutng wins (bring your own wash meet/pail/mfs/clay) (sat pa lang mag clay na ko para di pagod...sana manalo)

both programs will go simultaneous (product knowledge first then pili na kayo ng session)

PARTICIPANTS:
1) psi
2) bombitmd
3) Ginnova
4)scharnhorst
5)Chikselog
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Major Major EDIT: Mali pala! September 12 pala seminar. September 5 ko kukunin yung prize ko! Sorry 'bout that.

Sali ako sir pero okay lang ba kahit matanung jan??hehe..

[jed_015]

Haha i hope you like the effects but there's also a reason why nearly everyone here thats tried collinite became a convert, and the paste version of synwax goes for 1.4k thats already pretty much like the paste sapphire from autobisyo if its still on sale, so i would recommend collinite for durability and FX paste for ease of use. with both cases you could add Nano Glos to fill the swirls first.

teka ma'm naguluhan ulit ako..so ganito ba dapat ma'm step ko..

clay-step 1-step 2- nano glos- synwax tama ba ma'm?

eto ulit naguluhan ako ma'm, yung sa sapphire or collinite ba katulad din siya ng fx synwax na maganda for silver colored car??

[Chikselog]

why not try to sheet off water using the hose, and then once you're done sheeting off the water use a MF cloth and PAT dry the remaining water left on the paint, take not PAT NOT WIPE!! wiping will cause scratches just light pat it for the MF to absorb the remaining water

Yup ginagawa ko po ito. Di na nga po ako gumagamit ng chamois hahaha. Nainis ako nung natanggal bigla Collinite ko. Hehe wipe po kasi ginawa ko nun. Pero wala lang, parang ayoko nang gumamit ng chamois hehe.

Minsan naman po kapag wipe ang ginagawa ko using MF, very light lang ang pagpunas. Basta dumikit lang yung MF sa paint ok na.