Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[jmpet626]

Ulan ng ulan hindi makapag detail!!

[Starex_Gold]

Ulan ng ulan hindi makapag detail!!

Badtrip nga 'e. Nung Sunday nag detail ako tapos nung ginamit ko kahapon napaka lakas ng ulan

[Chikselog]

Langya araw araw spray ako ng SLIQ sa kotse, yung gulong ang dumi dumi. Try ko muna wag gumamit ng ONR tignan ko kung mas tatagal 476.

Lintek di nga ako gumamit ng ONR, di ko naman hino-hose down yung kotse pag-uwi. Nakakatamad sobra.

[PSI]

Langya araw araw spray ako ng SLIQ sa kotse, yung gulong ang dumi dumi. Try ko muna wag gumamit ng ONR tignan ko kung mas tatagal 476.

Lintek di nga ako gumamit ng ONR, di ko naman hino-hose down yung kotse pag-uwi. Nakakatamad sobra.

dalin mo dito libre car wash....kahit me sakit ako nag wawax pa ko ng 476 ... me 885 pa ko lagyan naten.....

[watusi]

Ah, I mean seperate applications. Kung magtatanggal ka lang ng marks, elevo. Tapos pag gusto mo protection, scrub + rain clear!
Ang ginawa ko kasi before, Elevo sabay banat ng rain clear. Ayun streaks kinalabasan hehe.

got it, thanks for the tip!

[kafph2000]

Lintek di nga ako gumamit ng ONR, di ko naman hino-hose down yung kotse pag-uwi. Nakakatamad sobra.

Haha! Same here, kakatamad kasi! Linis sa gabi. Tapos bukas ng umaga basa ulit ng ulan! mag-1 week narin ako di nakakapagdetail haha

[kafph2000]

dalin mo dito libre car wash....kahit me sakit ako nag wawax pa ko ng 476 ... me 885 pa ko lagyan naten.....

Hahaha! Idol kita sir!

[Nik]

parehas tayo problem migz.. bwisit pa yung mga kasabay ko sa edsa pag nalulubak sila sa gilid ko lahat ng PUTIK, GRASA, napupunta sa kotse pag uwi ko ayun puro itim.. scratch remover pang tangal ko para alis agad small amount at light pressure lang naman...

hindi ko na nililinis yung kotse kasi everyday gamit everyday ulan .. pag wala na bagyo one time big time na pag detail gawin ko kasama remove asphalt..

takot ako lagyan nano sliq ng walang hosedown baka magasgas yung paint pag punas ko ng MF towel dahil dami dumi..

cleaning QD need ko haha ONR !! need kita hehe or UQD para no issue sa pag tangal ng existing wax..

*mam madkatz and sir ED

15 days and counting nung 915 sa auto ko.. 1week sa loob ng casa tapos 8 days binabyahe ng 100 km per day.. kasama na ang bagyo putik at araw...

may beading effect padin pero slight nalang.. yung gloss at darker effect nya andun padin !! beading effect meron pero konti, looks MERON NA MERON PADIN !! astig hehe *pagiging darker nya basihan ko..hindi ako nag lalagay nano sliQ para sure na 915 lang yung andun

[mf051404]

Maybe you're right, just go with collinite 476 since I don't know your where, how long, and how often you drive your car. I maybe biased with my opinion since I only use my car twice or thrice a week and in short distances only. Another thing that turns me off is the difficulty of applying and removing 476 as what ma'am madkatz have mentioned. I would just opt to apply 845 over and over again.

I use the car daily (except when coding), parking has no roof, and pollution here in Baguio has gone from worse to terrible But for sure 476s is doing what I expect it to do because my car is 5 years old, but still looks fresh, fresher in fact compared to when I was using OTC waxes. One thing I've noticed with 476s is that it's very difficult to buff off when it has been applied without washing the car...and 476s must be applied every 2 panels at most (i.e. before applying on the 3rd panel, be sure to buff off the first panel)...that way 476s is not that difficult to buff off. Someday I might also try 845 and 915 ...which means so far I'm into Collinite

[PSI]

Hahaha! Idol kita sir!

Idol dalin mo na rin oto mo....hehehe!! just right after dinner around 9pm pag uwi ko...nilinis ko yung 2 oto heheheheheh! no sweat....kasi malamig bwahahahahaha!!

[PSI]

I use the car daily (except when coding), parking has no roof, and pollution here in Baguio has gone from worse to terrible But for sure 476s is doing what I expect it to do because my car is 5 years old, but still looks fresh, fresher in fact compared to when I was using OTC waxes. One thing I've noticed with 476s is that it's very difficult to buff off when it has been applied without washing the car...and 476s must be applied every 2 panels at most (i.e. before applying on the 3rd panel, be sure to buff off the first panel)...that way 476s is not that difficult to buff off. Someday I might also try 845 and 915 ...which means so far I'm into Collinite

Dude try one panel at a time lang....... sa roof ko ginawa ko ng 2 parts.....use good MF....and manipis lang po ang lagay....yan ang sakit ko but have corrected it already........and wag po sa sa tanghaling tapat mag wax, whta i mean is not under the sun......

[jmpet626]

parehas tayo problem migz.. bwisit pa yung mga kasabay ko sa edsa pag nalulubak sila sa gilid ko lahat ng PUTIK, GRASA, napupunta sa kotse pag uwi ko ayun puro itim.. scratch remover pang tangal ko para alis agad small amount at light pressure lang naman...

hindi ko na nililinis yung kotse kasi everyday gamit everyday ulan .. pag wala na bagyo one time big time na pag detail gawin ko kasama remove asphalt..

takot ako lagyan nano sliq ng walang hosedown baka magasgas yung paint pag punas ko ng MF towel dahil dami dumi..

cleaning QD need ko haha ONR !! need kita hehe or UQD para no issue sa pag tangal ng existing wax..

*mam madkatz and sir ED

15 days and counting nung 915 sa auto ko.. 1week sa loob ng casa tapos 8 days binabyahe ng 100 km per day.. kasama na ang bagyo putik at araw...

may beading effect padin pero slight nalang.. yung gloss at darker effect nya andun padin !! beading effect meron pero konti, looks MERON NA MERON PADIN !! astig hehe *pagiging darker nya basihan ko..hindi ako nag lalagay nano sliQ para sure na 915 lang yung andun

2 months na 915 ko may beading pa din....

[Chikselog]

Buti ka pa sir jm. 915 tumatagal 2 months. Ako 476 ko 2 weeks tops eh

[jmpet626]

Buti ka pa sir jm. 915 tumatagal 2 months. Ako 476 ko 2 weeks tops eh

Twice a week wash lang ako wala na ko nilalagay na QD or any other gloss boosters.. Pag nag aaply ako ng 915 or 476s inaaply ko muna sa buong car then start mag buff sa 1st panel na nalagyan ng wax. Baka hindi kumapit ng maayos yung wax mo?


Sa rav4 1 month na parked sa labas lakas pa din ng beading ng 476s.

[Chikselog]

Microtex lang shampoo ko sir jm. 4-5 days a week dina-drive yung Vios.

Hirap kasi pag maputik kaya QD na lang pang linis ko. Ayoko pumasok ng marumi kotse eh hahaha.

[jmpet626]

Sakin Microtex din shampoo ko...

[madkatz]

Thank you very much, mam madkatz. You are SUPER helpful!

It looks like I can't have my car Zainoed in the near future then. So I'm looking at Klasse/carlack68 as an alternative.

This brings me to another question: In terms of looks, which is better? Zaino or Klasse?

Zaino definitely wins by a small margin here, but if you're not gonna put it on show or gonna put it under intense lights you could barely notice the difference, Zaino just produces a better mirror shine

[madkatz]

I've researched in other forums and learned that you can top 476S with 845 if you're not contented with the gloss 476S gives. Or if you really have enough energy you can make a sandwich 845-476-845. The thing is 476S is known for its durability which is famous in countries experiencing different seasons (specifically winter). While 845 has a wetter look but doesn't last as long as the 476. 915 is only a more expensive version of 845 with just added carnauba (outcome not much of a difference) so it's just a waste of money.

In my case, I'll just probably stick with the insulator wax since weather conditions here is not all that bad.

Hmm i dunno what site those are but according to the president of Collinite Mike Taylor which i spoke to personally, 845 and 476 is actually the same save that 845 is the liquid version, and even if you ask me and my detailer friends all of us use and agree that 476 and 845 looks the same, 845 just has a shorter durability than 476

next with the 845-476-845 suggestion, thats going to be quite counterproductive in a way, the general rule of thumb is always use the toughest wax first, if you slap on 845 on top of 476 chances are you'd be removing 845 and just putting 476, if you really want a good gloss properly prep and polish the paint

next as for the 915 being just a more expensive version of 845, i really beg to differ on that, yes 915 has more carnauba content thats why its more expensive and thats why it looks better, and the difference isn't not that much, its a LOT! 915 produces a far better gloss depth and shine than 845, i am actually inviting you one day to attend a seminar and try and apply 845 and 915 on a black car so there you would really see the difference.

and as for 915 being a waste of money i think thats a bit subjective since if it would be my point of view buying 845 and 476 would be more of a waste of money than just buy 1 tin can of 915, if your problem is 476 not really shining that much and you prefer 845, why not try 915? it produces a better look at the same time it lasts just a little below 476, not only do you save yourself from buying 2 products based on your advice since you just buy 1, you also save time and effort as well.

i don't know which site you base your review on but the best review someone can make is when you personally review something and compare it to other waxes, and in nearly all the sites i've found i've never come across a site that actually says 845 is about the same as 915

[madkatz]

Maybe you're right, just go with collinite 476 since I don't know your where, how long, and how often you drive your car. I maybe biased with my opinion since I only use my car twice or thrice a week and in short distances only. Another thing that turns me off is the difficulty of applying and removing 476 as what ma'am madkatz have mentioned. I would just opt to apply 845 over and over again.

476 is really difficult to apply compared to 845, 845 definitely wins hands down with ease of use, and thats the main reason why its so popular in other countries, if you love waxing your car from time to time then 845 is really the wax for you, if you would notice the preferred wax of people living abroad, most of them prefer waxes that are high on gloss and very easy to apply rather than a wax that would protect and protect the paint mainly because their environment is far more cleaner than ours.

[madkatz]

Ah, I mean seperate applications. Kung magtatanggal ka lang ng marks, elevo. Tapos pag gusto mo protection, scrub + rain clear!
Ang ginawa ko kasi before, Elevo sabay banat ng rain clear. Ayun streaks kinalabasan hehe.

You could use a Glass cleaner or re-wash the car to avoid the streaking problem