Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 2]

[Chikselog]

thanks chikselog. so ibig sabihin e reusable sya. akala ko kasi e one time use then tapon then pag mag clay ka uli e bili uli.

ang qd ko lang is yung mothers pde na kaya yun as lube for clay?

Pwede nyo rin po hatiin sa dalawa yung clay para tipid hehe. That half clay bar can clay more or less 5 cars but it also depends kung sobra nang daming contaminants na nakuha ng clay.

Not sure kung pwede po yung Mothers nyo, spray wax po kasi yun eh. Anyway yung Zymol naman 150 pesos lang yun so you can consider that one.

[dbhollanda]

Pwede nyo rin po hatiin sa dalawa yung clay para tipid hehe. That half clay bar can clay more or less 5 cars but it also depends kung sobra nang daming contaminants na nakuha ng clay.

Not sure kung pwede po yung Mothers nyo, spray wax po kasi yun eh. Anyway yung Zymol naman 150 pesos lang yun so you can consider that one.

san po nakakabili ng zymol na yan hehehe. balak ko kasi mag wax every quarter.

[franster]

HI. i'm still a newbie in this detailing so i have a few questions.

I was using 3M Auto scratch remover the past few months to remove very fine hair line scratch in the paint of my car. It did remove the scratch but left some very very very fine swirls due to the swirlings I did using the scratch remover. I also noticed that the area is not shiny anymore, even if after buffing - waxing -and buffing it again.

I've made some search here and come across some of the informations that GLAZE should hide those swirls and provide a wet look shine. Is GLAZE the same with POLISH? Which is better to use for a 4 month old car? Does GLAZE substitute the clearcoat that has been removed by the scratch remover?

What should I do next time after using 3m Auto Scratch Remover on some areas of the car where it has very fine scratches? or should I ommit using this product all the time when removing fine scratches?

What regimen should i follow to have a wet look shine all the time, and also have a lasting protection on the paint?

Sorry if I asked too much.
TIA.

[indiej]

HI. i'm still a newbie in this detailing so i have a few questions.

I was using 3M Auto scratch remover the past few months to remove very fine hair line scratch in the paint of my car. It did remove the scratch but left some very very very fine swirls due to the swirlings I did using the scratch remover. I also noticed that the area is not shiny anymore, even if after buffing - waxing -and buffing it again.

if that's the case you should hit it with a less aggressive polishing product for the fine swirls. what color is your car? what did you use to apply 3mASR?

I've made some search here and come across some of the informations that GLAZE should hide those swirls and provide a wet look shine. Is GLAZE the same with POLISH? Which is better to use for a 4 month old car? Does GLAZE substitute the clearcoat that has been removed by the scratch remover?

it hides because it fills the swirls and scratches leaving you with an extra slick, shiny look. a polish abrades some of the clearcoat. use a glaze if scratch removal is getting a bit involved. you don't wanna dig it out and find yourself on the base coat.

What should I do next time after using 3m Auto Scratch Remover on some areas of the car where it has very fine scratches? or should I ommit using this product all the time when removing fine scratches?

your "very fine scratches" could be swirls. Swirlx is better suited for that and final corrections.
take pictures of a scratch. work 3mASR with an MF/foam applicator pad til it clears or almost dries. repeat til the scratch is corrected. take pictures of that area showing whatever remaining blemish you see. you should omit it if it really doesn't work for you.

What regimen should i follow to have a wet look shine all the time, and also have a lasting protection on the paint?

the short of it is a weekly wash, monthly wax, quarterly seal, clay and glaze or polish when you start.

you should do some backreading and get to the bottom of the steps and processes in detailing. you'll get a better understanding of what product to use.

then there's product specific knowledge, which is easier to read about in its own thread in certain detailing forums. then use the product and tell us how you made it work. or failed.

[franster]

if that's the case you should hit it with a less aggressive polishing product for the fine swirls. what color is your car? what did you use to apply 3mASR?

the color of my car is silver-beige. I used a soft terry cloth on the application. Should I use something else? i believe the swirls being left was caused by the cloth i used, or I maybe wrong. Not so sure.

your "very fine scratches" could be swirls. Swirlx is better suited for that and final corrections.
take pictures of a scratch. work 3mASR with an MF/foam applicator pad til it clears or almost dries. repeat til the scratch is corrected. take pictures of that area showing whatever remaining blemish you see. you should omit it if it really doesn't work for you.

I think the product works well. The targeted fine scratch was gone but are left with finer scratches/swirls, similar to "cobweb" effect. Is that normal for a 3m auto scratch remover to do?

[indiej]

how do you look for the swirls? i mean what light do you use and how.

use the terry cloth with soap on a small area, rinse, dry and check before and after. if it induced swirls, don't use it on paint. just use microfiber.

it's not normal cos i used it a few times without those issues. have you found the areas untouched by your cloth without the swirls like those of the treated area?

pictures would help.

[indiej]

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use the terry cloth with soap on a small area, rinse, dry and check before and after. if it induced swirls, don't use it on paint. just use microfiber..

oops, i forgot about the cd test. rub your cloth on a scratch-free underside of a cd and see if the cloth scratches it.

[franster]

how do you look for the swirls? i mean what light do you use and how.

use the terry cloth with soap on a small area, rinse, dry and check before and after. if it induced swirls, don't use it on paint. just use microfiber.

it's not normal cos i used it a few times without those issues. have you found the areas untouched by your cloth without the swirls like those of the treated area?

pictures would help.

they are visible during night time where I use the flourescent light of the garage to reflect on the paint. The swirls, however, are not visible during daytime even at any angle.

Also, I'll try to post some pics later if I can find a decent angle where it would be visible.

Thanks for the help guys. :-)

[scharnhorst]

how do you look for the swirls? i mean what light do you use and how.

use the terry cloth with soap on a small area, rinse, dry and check before and after. if it induced swirls, don't use it on paint. just use microfiber.

it's not normal cos i used it a few times without those issues. have you found the areas untouched by your cloth without the swirls like those of the treated area?

pictures would help.

sir indiej, the best lights to use are:

1)xenon bulbs
2)LED lamps

[madkatz]

the color of my car is silver-beige. I used a soft terry cloth on the application. Should I use something else? i believe the swirls being left was caused by the cloth i used, or I maybe wrong. Not so sure.


I think the product works well. The targeted fine scratch was gone but are left with finer scratches/swirls, similar to "cobweb" effect. Is that normal for a 3m auto scratch remover to do?

i agree with Indiej

try hitting it with a milder polish, swirlX would do a great job of refining the surface to a high gloss, one of the best OTC scratch removers is ScratchX and its very effective when used by hand and via foam applicator however there are also cheaper alternatives like Mothers Scratch remover that works nearly as well as ScratchX, try these two with a foam applicator pad

[Chikselog]

san po nakakabili ng zymol na yan hehehe. balak ko kasi mag wax every quarter.

ACE po meron. Kahit sa SM Hypermart nakakita po ako hehe.