Detailing Thread [For Newbies][ARCHIVED]

[Chikselog]

*madkatz
maybe you can help me out with our civic EK, its paint is pretty busted up because wala syang bubong dito sa bahay pag nakapark eh, naaawa na nga ako eh araw araw ganun sya .. tapos may mga part pa na parang cracked yung paint niya na parang brittle na.. I'll try to post pics later.. I'll do the step 1 on it and I'll post the before and after pics..

[d.drifter]

jmpet - thanks for your suggestion on the kp600, although mero'n na kaming drill sa bahay, my bro used it on his car and ok naman ang result nya. i also bought wax applicator and buffing pad for the power tool, will use it next time i wax the car.

madkatz - again, thanks for your detailed reply. it goes to show that you really know a lot about detailing! as for having bigbert's do the detailing, maybe i'll pass that for now, will try experimenting with the different chemicals muna, i'm planning on putting a body kit naman in a couple of months and changing the color of my ride, so the real purpose of me spending on the materials is to get some experience on detailing, so when i get my new-look car, i'd know what to do.

i read somewhere that you spent 60k on your materials? that's already good for 2 washovers!

[madkatz]

*drifter: oh i see, thats nice then, at least once you change you cars color you're already great at maintaining you paint. yup hahaha 60k it is, first i was just a compulsive buyer wanting to try everything on the shelf and before i knew it viola! im up to 60k already not to mention my upcoming shipment from autogeek adding more to the 60k, its like i just can't help it but be excited to try out new products when it comes to detailing and probably figure out whats the best for what job hehe but i guess its all worth it, i learned what works and what doesn't, i got lots of products to use on other cars thats less sensitive and delicate hehe 60k would just be about 1 wash over if its a very nice paint used hehe costed me around that to have my revo painted with PPG and ceramiclear clear coat, but im so happy with the results, my revo's still shiny as the day it was painted and it has no swirls, i guess it really is scratch resistant.

[d.drifter]

*drifter: oh i see, thats nice then, at least once you change you cars color you're already great at maintaining you paint. yup hahaha 60k it is, first i was just a compulsive buyer wanting to try everything on the shelf and before i knew it viola! im up to 60k already not to mention my upcoming shipment from autogeek adding more to the 60k, its like i just can't help it but be excited to try out new products when it comes to detailing and probably figure out whats the best for what job hehe but i guess its all worth it, i learned what works and what doesn't, i got lots of products to use on other cars thats less sensitive and delicate hehe 60k would just be about 1 wash over if its a very nice paint used hehe costed me around that to have my revo painted with PPG and ceramiclear clear coat, but im so happy with the results, my revo's still shiny as the day it was painted and it has no swirls, i guess it really is scratch resistant.

a girl who's into detailing and drives a revo. not your ordinary girl.

in a few year's time, your detailing products would cost more than your car!

[madkatz]

*drifter: Lets hope not, hahaha i really need to stop my impulsive buying and concentrate on saving more cash hahaha, so hopefully the 2 other boxes due to arrive would be my last detailing product i would buy, aside for maintenance purposes that is

[d.drifter]

i can just imagine how much time you spend on your car...

[madkatz]

*Drifter: haha, actually i just wash it every week and wax it every month alternating the revo and innova, but i do get to detail a lot of cars, my friends and i spend time now every other sunday detailing cars, my deal with them is that i detail their cars and i take care of the items used but if i do something wrong they don't take it against me, this way i get to test different products and see which ones really work at the same time improve my detailing skills and if i make some mistake they don't really mind haha, Oh yeah if you're planning on getting a new paint job, you might want to try and invest on some glazes, those that would give some protection at the same time would be safe for newly painted cars still on the curing stage. Good luck on your upcoming paint job.

[d.drifter]

looks like my body kit conversion and paint job would have to wait. cebu pac have travel discounts early next year and i just booked two. need to save up on my upcoming trips.. so in the meantime, madkatz master detailer, would you like to practice detailing on my ridE?

[madkatz]

*drifter: hahaha im seriously no master detailer, and there's a lot i still don't know, as for detailing your ride, i'll pass for now, im really scared of messing up someone's car even if i just get some wax on some trims on my friends car i kinda feel bad already, maybe when the day comes that im quite confident with my skills, who knows, speaking of a master detailer, check this out, http://www.miracledetail.co.uk/ can you believe how much this guy charges? and look at the cars he details, now thats what i call a master detailer.

Oh yeah can someone else confirm if this is true? a regular detailing shop i go to when im too lazy told me that using armor-all would make the surfaces brittle if treated repeatedly, and the after repeated applications the surface will slowly crack and fade its outer layer leaving a white chipped surface.

Also does anybody know how to remove wax residues on rough plastic trims?

[madkatz]

I found this on some website and honestly i find it ridiculous

based on the website this is Paul Daltons famous 61 steps of detailing

THE 61 STAGES

1. Rinse vehicle with 30C purified water
2. Spray citrus degreaser on entire car
3. Repeat rinse
4. Wash top half of vehicle with pure warm water and shampoo
5. Repeat rinse
6. Wash top half of vehicle with pure warm water and shampoo
7. Repeat rinse
8. Spray citrus cleaner inside arches
9. Repeat rinse
10. Decontaminate paint and windows with clay mixed with secret solution
11. Repeat rinse
12. Wash entire car with pure warm water and shampoo mix
13. Repeat rinse
14. Dry vehicle with microfibre towels
15. Apply wheel cleaner and brush
16. Repeat rinse
17. Turn wheels 180 degrees
18. Reapply wheel cleaner and brush
19. Repeat rinse
20. Dry wheels
21. Dry door, engine and boot edges
22. Blow compressed air in cracks and towel dry
23. Measure all paintwork in microns (1/1,000mm)
24. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
25. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
26. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
27. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
28. Re-measure paintwork
29. Pre-wax cleaner to paintwork
30. Remove pre-wax cleaner with towel
31. Zymol Royale wax applied to paintwork
32. Remove wax
33. Buff windows
34. Windows cleaned inside and out
35. Interior vacuumed thoroughly
36. Clean interior trim
37. Clean and shampoo carpets and mats
38. Clean leather
39. Dry leather with cotton towels
40. Condition leather and buff
41. Clean interior with compressed air brush
42. Pre-wax cleaner to door edges
43. Condition and preserve door rubbers
44. Zymol Royale wax applied to door edges
45. Tyres dried to a satin finish
46. Exterior trim cleaned and conditioned
47. Clean wheels using clay mixed with secret solution
48. Clean and polish wheels
49. Pre-wax cleaner to wheels
50. Zymol Royale wax applied to wheels
51. Final buff with small cloth
52. Windows cleaned inside and out again
53-55. Additional Zymol Royale wax layer application, buffed twice
56-58. Repeat above wax application
59-61. Repeat final wax application

lots of redundancy right? but for a guy that can charge more than 5k USD for a detail, i wouldn't call it ridiculous

this is just crazy both in a good and a bad sense, just want to share