Detailing Thread [For Newbies][ARCHIVED]

[madkatz]

tama! hehe.. kuha tyo chix ng M105/M205? M83 dual action cleaner/polisher? M66 quick detailer?

105 = is a lot more aggressive than the m84 you guys used just a heads up, its actually stronger than diamond cut i think

205 = could be a replacement of speed glaze and at times m83 DACP

my suggestions would be either go for 105 and 205

or go for m84 and m83

but i would suggest the 105 and 205 since the correct a lot faster

the m66 is actually just a cleaner wax that can be both machine and hand applied

BTW we're on the process of testing optimum polishes and compounds and so far they seem to be a little better than megs since they have a really longer working time which is safer for beginners so you might also want to check on those, Menzerna also offers very good polishes so you also might want to check those out, since the menzerna roughly has about the same price as the 205 but menzerna definitely finishes better.

[rockstar5k]

*doc, thanks sir!
*beeco, tama si sir mj09...crystal black pearl cia.

Ganda talaga ng Nano...parang wet paint na malagkit...hehehe.

[dotnetmatt]

Nice detail sir matt!

BTW sir, ask ko lang,

1. Bago ka ba nag 476S nag-clay ka muna? Grabe ang tagal kasi nung 476 mo, 4 weeks na nagbebead pa rin?

2. Kapag po ba nagwawash ka Microtex shampoo rin gamit mo? TIA sir

Haven't tried claying pa kasi before 476, wala pang time eh hehehe. And I'm out of QD na . Within this week siguro makakapag-detail na uli ako with claying.

Boss chikselog, yes nag clay muna ako. then 3m hand glaze then 476.

Maintenance nlang ng spray wax mothers fx and megs quik wax after washing.

syempre every other day yung fav natin OGE

ooops cali car duster nga pala everyday ..

and yes microtex shampoo gamit ko

[madkatz]

Hindi overkill yan ginawa ko sa tucson 915 muna tapos after a week and 1 wash 476s naman. Kitang kita pa din yung shine ng 915.

Bang for the buck talaga yang 915 sa price na 1.2k sa Jazz ko 1 week ng nag uulan tapos nagpa carwash lang ako kagabi ang kintab pa din niya parang kakalagay lang ng 915.



Yung sa ONR nung ginamitan ko ng tap water from blue naging clear na lang siya pero mukang effective pa naman. Yung ONR ko na ginamitan ng distilled water blue pa din siya bakit kaya ganun?



*Madkatz


Na try niyo na ba gumamit ng Diamondite Glass Resurfacing Creme at Glass polishing pads? Sinubukan ko gamitin medyo mahirap kasii nag wowobble yung portercable sa windshiled ng jazz, pinanood ko sa videos ng autogeek kung pano yun gamitin tama naman yung paraan ko.

As for the ONR, its normal to see ONR turn clear with tap water and still be blue with distilled because based on how the CEO explained it to me was that ONR encapsulated the dirt, so if you use tap water it can still function properly but chances are ONR has already encapsulated the impurities in the water and setting them to the bottom of the mixture.

Yup i've tried it already, hmmm maybe its because of the shape of the windshield, hmmm maybe you could bring it over one of these days to my BF he has also used diamondites products before.

[madkatz]

i have problems with watemarks all over the body.

similiar to this pero hindi ganyan ka grabe.(pahiram po ng pic mam madkatz)



tried using claybar+cleaner wax+swirlx nabawas pero andami padin. pero combination na yan natanggal ko. watermarks sa vios.

what products should I use? I've read from meguiar's forums that scratchx2.0 would remove these. di ba same scratchx and swirl x?
wala kasing detailing shop dito sa province namen AFAIK.

thanks!!

ScratchX is a lot more aggressive than SwirlX, SwirlX as the name stats is mainly used for swirls but it can also remove light watermarks but for heavier defects you might want to look at scratchX or ultimate compound just be sure to work these products starting from the least aggressive method.

[madkatz]

By machine mo ba ginamit ang swirl x? Ang scratch X 2.0 ay mas aggressive kesa sa swirl X. Depende din yan sa pad na gagamitin. Kung by hand mas maganda siguro na Ultimate Compound na ang gamitin diyan

Abrasive charts

http://craigdt.web.officelive.com/abrasives.aspx

up with this one

[madkatz]

After ng washing swirl x. After ng swirl X 50:50 isopropyl alcohol/water wipedown para yung mga oils ng swirl X matanggal at di maka affect ng bonding ng collinite sa paint or pwede mo din i wash ulit with a higher concentration ng car shampoo.

Pag ako nag detail di na ko gumagamit ng Step 2 ng mothers or any other glazes or fillers derecho na kagad ako sa 845/915 kasi sa tigin ko nakaka affect sila ng bonding ng waxes eh tsaka dapat sa pag gamit pa lang ng swirl X tanggal na kagad ang mga fine scratches and swirls. At kung 915 ang gamit mo super kintab na niya at durable so no need for step 2 na.

up with this one

[madkatz]

*PSI: mas matibay yung 476, kaya mas maganda pang rainy season... detergent proof talaga yung 476.

naiimagine ko nalang kung gaano kakunat yung fleetwax

eto daytime pics... buti medyo umaraw na

medyo iba yung kulay kasi blue yung polycarbonate roof namin


mas ganito ang pagkared nyan, (maalikabok na pala. hehe.)


tsikot rocks


*SG: para sayo to. hehe

Great Job! hahaha fleet wax is just a little more durable than 476 thats all

[madkatz]

^
wala na iba kailangan? complete set na ba yung package?

you still need polishes and compounds, if you're buying from AG you could check the different swirl removal packages, usually these packages are already complete.

[madkatz]

Share ko lang experience ko sa Nanogloss: Maganda talaga yung filling properties nito! Ganda rin ng gloss nia. Mas naging wetlook yung city ko.

BEFORE:


AFTER:

Great Job!

[Chikselog]

Boss chikselog, yes nag clay muna ako. then 3m hand glaze then 476.

Maintenance nlang ng spray wax mothers fx and megs quik wax after washing.

syempre every other day yung fav natin OGE

ooops cali car duster nga pala everyday ..

and yes microtex shampoo gamit ko

Thanks sir! Iba talaga bonding ng wax kapag clayed ang paint.

[madkatz]

mga boss andami niyong ginagamit na Collinite wax nalilito ako hehe. unang suggestion niyo sakin dito is Collinite 845. pero bakit andami yatang gumagamit ng 476s at 915. di ko tuloy alam kung ano bibilin ko. ano kaya bilin ko if ever makakabili nga, 845, 476s o 915? isa lang kasi balak ko bilin eh. more on durability at water repelling sana ang preferred ko. I have a black City po. thanks.

we first recommended 845 since its the most user friendly of all 3 collinites, people who use collinites can sometimes have a really hard time removing them so 845 is basically the default recommendation when it comes to their waxes so first time users won't have a hard time, as for 476 and 915 they can both be a PITA to remove even for me and my BF who have applied these hundreds of times already but 915 and 476 are more durable than the 845 the difference between 915 and 476 is that 915 has at least 20% more carnauba than 476 providing a deeper gloss, 476 however has more polymers that protect making it more durable.

[rockstar5k]

Great Job!

Thanks po ms Madkatz!

[Starex_Gold]

rockstar5k: Nice Detail!

matt: Nice Detail din!

Doc Scharn: Ganda nung engine :shocked2:

[scharnhorst]

hindi ba nakakastrip ng clearcoat ang clay? sabi ni sir Edwin rubbing compound daw yung clay bar

*SG: silvertop! sakitin. hehe

*dotnetmatt: nice detail sir! akala ko nung isang pic nagpa carbon fibre hood na kayo

Great Job! hahaha fleet wax is just a little more durable than 476 thats all

thank you ma'am!

just washed the car again (after that detail), and I think the 476 is still alive

[Starex_Gold]

Sabi ni sir Edwin, ang claybar daw made of abrasive materials.. pero hindi sya abrasive

clearcoat safe ang claybar. Baka bukas or sa tuesday mag clay na ako.. grabe ang dumi ng Tucson ngayon

[Starex_Gold]

Grabe yung wheel wells.

[Chikselog]

*SG
Grabe namuti yung gulong ah :rofl: tsaka galing magtago ng dumi ng paint mo hehe.

Just finished washing + NanoSLIQ + OGE. Will post pics later

[Chikselog]

And here are the pics. Medyo paubos na 476 ko so baka mas may ikikintab pa yan kapag sariwa ang wax. Mas maganda raw kasi gamitin ang OGE kapag may wax accdg. to sir Edwin

I forgot to rotate this pic (Tilt na lang kayo to the right hehe)

Roof shot from the front of the car

[dotnetmatt]

And here are the pics. Medyo paubos na 476 ko so baka mas may ikikintab pa yan kapag sariwa ang wax. Mas maganda raw kasi gamitin ang OGE kapag may wax accdg. to sir Edwin)

I forgot to rotate this pic (Tilt na lang kayo to the right hehe)

Roof shot from the front of the car

*SG thanks brod!!!

*Chikselog, panalo sa kintab

*Scharn Hehehe sana nga may pang carbon fiber

*Ms Madkatz If compare mo yung Optimum wax and collinite 476 sa durability
malayo ba?

Salamat