Detailing Thread [For Newbies][ARCHIVED]

[ILuvDetailing]

may mga sun shot pics si dehadista dito, maybe you can search this thread

[B2Bomber]

hmm... mabalikan nga yung mga sinave kong 92 pages nitong thread...at maumpisahan na ring magsave ulit nung mga latest bago ako matambakan ulit. hope the mods don't mind me saving the pages for reference. hehehe

[ILuvDetailing]

B2Bomber: Also check the "Maintening a Black car thread" dehadista has some sun shots over there, also some wet sanding pics

[B2Bomber]

a-ha! wet sanding pics. hehehe. I hope additional pics pa 'to from dun sa pinost na nya rito. hehehe. thanks ILD. mukhang online tayo ngayon ah. hehehe

[theveed]

B2B: Make it easy for yourself. Click the THREAD TOOLS sa taas and choose Show Printable version. You can save/print everything in one page. hehe

[H1Tman]

mga sir, yung excess wax sa kotse, paano tanggalin? nag-apply kasi ako two weekends ago ng 3M finish restorer. pagod na ko di ko pa natanggal lahat. nagpa-carwash na ko this morning, andun pa rin.

[theveed]

tyaga lang toothbrush and pure shampoo or use an all purpose cleaner.

[B2Bomber]

ganun pa rin s'theveed e... page per page pa rin basically, di yung isang buong file (spread) na for the entire thread... even kapag yung "view 20 posts in this thread on the same page"... thanks for the tip.

[B2Bomber]

was going through my saved pages of this thread earlier before hitting the sack then some Qs came to mind regarding my last detailing session:
1. I noticed that when I applied Moms Back to Black on my tires, I got the wet look I wanted. I figured, maybe I'd put Moms Protector as well (I was thinking somewhere around the lines of carnauba over sealant...) but the wet look turned into matte finish... is it just me or was this to be expected? If it was supposed to happen, then I guess it was a waste of product AND time applying the Protector over the Back to Black.
2. I can't remember where I read it but before I forget the ask again is Moms S&G really not a sealant per se? If it is then should I have waited for some time before topping it with carnauba? What I actually did was S&G, Carnauba (2x), Spray Wax with just the 2 coats of Carnauba having a reasonably longer interval between coats, the rest went on top of the previous product as soon as I was done applying the previous product on the entire car.
3. IN the event that Moms S&G IS not a sealant, which of the following Megs would be better, the Polymer (#20) or Synthetic (#21) sealant?
4. When reapplying Sealants is it necessary to do the clay (I guess Dehadista would say... "It never hurts to clay" ;-D), cleaner and polish ritual again?
5. I had my center console and door handles trims sprayed (I'm not quite sure whether the shop used 2K on it-- is there anyway to tell?), how should I maintain these finishes IF needed (i.e. do I have to detail away at it like I would on my external finish?)
TIA.

[ILuvDetailing]

I can't remember where I read it but before I forget the ask again is Moms S&G really not a sealant per se?

Nope its not a sealant but a glaze.

When reapplying Sealants is it necessary to do the clay (I guess Dehadista would say... "It never hurts to clay" ;-D), cleaner and polish ritual again?

It never hurts to clay It really depends on the condition of the surface, if it has some embedded dirt or light scratches then by all means polish it, if not you can just apply another coat of sealant.

[B2Bomber]

it never hurts to clay ganda ng slogan ni Dehadista 'no? thanks ILD.

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it never hurts to clay ganda ng slogan ni Dehadista 'no? thanks ILD.

hehehe nawala lang ako ng kaunti sa thread na 'to meron na palang slogan ako. hahaha

actually, you can feel it naman whether you need to or not. and most of the time, natatanggal naman ng clay most of the contaminants (if you get to it in time though)

which of the following Megs would be better, the Polymer (#20) or Synthetic (#21) sealant?

yung #20, meron na yan dito, not sure about the #21 though. pero i'd pick 21.

*sigh* havent been able to detail lately.. puro wash lang. I'd definitely have to use a cleaner wax..

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OT: nalilito ako sa avator mo ILD.. naninibago ako!

[B2Bomber]

hehehe nawala lang ako ng kaunti sa thread na 'to meron na palang slogan ako. hahaha

well, sa 'yo ko nakita yun (from the preeeeeevious pages of this thread... hehehe. so, pagnagkampanya ka na, may slogan ka na.

actually, you can feel it naman whether you need to or not. and most of the time, natatanggal naman ng clay most of the contaminants (if you get to it in time though)

ang iniisip ko kasi pag nagclay/cleaner ulit ako, di ba mai-strip ulit kung ano man yung mga nakapatong na layers? eh kung top-up ko lang yung sealant/wax sana para less time siguro or something...o nahilo na lang talaga ako?

yung #20, meron na yan dito, not sure about the #21 though. pero i'd pick 21.

san kaya meron nung #20 tsong?

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if you got some layers going with a pure wax or a sealant, better not use a cleaner wax muna. not unless you want to remove the previous ones (and albeit some minor swirls that will always pop up) and start from scratch..

you have to find a balance between looks and protection especially sa weather natin ngayon.

pero clarification lang, when you mean by layering, what products are you using?
personally, maganda kasi ang results to get 2-3 layers of Klasse SG first before topping off with carnauba on dark-colored rides.

as for #20, I spotted some sa Simex sa may Kamias. yun nga lang, medyo mahal. I'd rather pick #21 or even better, Klasse na lang.

[B2Bomber]

if you got some layers going with a pure wax or a sealant, better not use a cleaner wax muna.

yun nga yung concern ko ... so would it hurt kaya to clay for this scenario?

not unless you want to remove the previous ones ...and start from scratch..

yun din sana ang medyo iiwasan ko sana for my next session just incase saglit lang ang days off ko...

pero clarification lang, when you mean by layering, what products are you using?

sa last na session ko moms sg, 2x moms carnauba pos moms spray wax.

personally, maganda kasi ang results to get 2-3 layers of Klasse SG

so ang klasse na SG ba at yung Moms SG e pareho o yung sa Klasse is sealant talaga? kung pareho, does this mean pwede ko ring ilayer yung Moms SG? Ang IHG ba pwede rin?

as for #20, I spotted some sa Simex sa may Kamias. yun nga lang, medyo mahal. I'd rather pick #21 or even better, Klasse na lang.

kung di hassle pwede pa PM na lang nung contact info ng Simex? TIA. yun kasing 20/21 sana e magpapabili ako sa mga friendly friends ko sa US... i.e. medyo matatagalan pa bago dumating yung bill. hehehe. sige, check ko rin yung klasse kung sakali at ng maipahabol sa wish list. hehehe.ty ulit.

[ILuvDetailing]

yun nga yung concern ko ... so would it hurt kaya to clay for this scenario?

It doesn't hurt to clay... don't worry clay won't strip off the wax or sealant.

so ang klasse na SG ba at yung Moms SG e pareho o yung sa Klasse is sealant talaga? kung pareho, does this mean pwede ko ring ilayer yung Moms SG? Ang IHG ba pwede rin?

Funny isn't it? two totally different products with the same name. Klasse S & G is a sealant, Mothers S & G is a glaze. Klasse S & G is usually packaged with Klasse AIO >> Klasse Twins.

Klasse isn't available locally here, its available in the States. Between that and Megs # 20 I'd pick Klasse.

OT: Dehadista: Panalo kasi Miami, hahaha... we lost a bet so we're gonna be M54's beeyach's :bwahaha:

[chain]

ILD: yeah I remember about something like that.. hahaha.

B2Bomber: ok na yang Glaze and Carnauba ah.. why not sandwich the Spray Wax as a Maintenance in between Major Details? para hindi naman maubos ang time mo.

also why not have #21 picked up na din? and since you're at it, some S100 as well.

sarap mag-try ng new products sa abroad. hehehe.

[B2Bomber]

"It doesn't hurt to clay..." siya, everybody now say "It doesn't hurt to clay"..."It doesn't hurt to clay"...
"don't worry clay won't strip off the wax or sealant." aaah ok. kala ko kasi ala cleaner din... s'ya, ty ILD.
re: product naming -- Oo nga, conspiracy theory siguro ng mga nagdesign ng mga pangalan ng mga product na yan para lituhin ang mga OC. hehehe. ok, once more every one "Klasse SG=Sealant, Moms SG=Glaze".

ok na yang Glaze and Carnauba ah..

since my willing na source... alam mo na. hehehe.

why not sandwich the Spray Wax as a Maintenance in between Major Details?

so, glaze until spray wax ako last, so ang "sandwhich" e next session, glaze until spray wax ulit over dun sa previous (after not getting hurt with claying )?
re: 21, yun yung rason kung bakit ko tinatanong kung alin ang mas ok sa 20/21. kasi, worst case scenario, baka isa lang makita nya or available...choose the lesser evil.di pa man din naiiinfect na sakit natin yung source ko. hehehe.
re: S100 -- hanapin ko muna kung ano tong S100. kailangan kasi specific product name at kung pwede may picture e para sigurado yung kukunin nya. hehe.
regarding product from abroad, may (alam ka bang) suking tindahan ka ba sa Singapore?

[chain]

hmm.. last time I was there in Singapore, never really got a chance to scour the place and look for detailing stuff.

so, glaze until spray wax ako last, so ang "sandwhich" e next session, glaze until spray wax ulit over dun sa previous

in between detailing (glaze and seal) sessions, you can use a spray wax during this period for maintenance. for example, pwedeng wash tapos spray wax and QD muna until the time comes para clean, polish, glaze and seal.. yung spray wax kasi pang-mabilisan talaga.

mind you, after a while, you'll be able to tell naman what your ride needs by looking, touching and feeling. for example, pwedeng glaze muna to cover the swirls o kaya naman ganadong-ganado to remove them defects so clay and polish ka na then seal.

there's no cut-out step-by-step process actually.