Detailing Thread [For Newbies][ARCHIVED]

[revoGSX]

any pics of the discoloration? and how long has this been on the fender?

getting at the stain ASAP would be good. also, the waxes that you were using don't have any cleaning properties at all.. a dedicated product such as a polish / abrasive would have done a better job IMO..

hope the stain hasn't permanently marred the surface. you're right in deciding to bring it to a pro to have it thoroughly assessed.

they might level the paint to make it even or "pantay" looking again.

dehadista, pag kinunan ko ng camera yung fender eh hindi makita sa picture yung stain nya, yung stain is parang tumulo na sipon hehe..

kaya yan sa paint cleaner / polisher. then top it off with wax. But to be sure have a professional take a look. My guess is, its just a stain from the water. Don't worry matatangal pa yan, just don't take too long.

ILuvDetailing, one week na sya sa fender ko and naarawan na sya twice, so iniisip ko eh baka naluto na sya sa paint..

revogsx, sa akin laging ganyan pag hindi nalinis ng mabuti ang ibang panels. concentrated na soap solution ang tumulo dyan most probably. pero pag napantay na ang linis ok na. sa car kasi namin mas halata eh kasi white :D

zechs, malamang nga concentrated na soap, pero baka house detergent na matapang na masama sa paint, sana hindi pa huli ang lahat, sa friday ako punta bigberts para isang punta na lang ako hehe,

dun sa nagtanong regarding tulo ng sabon... what happened (most probably) is that the concentrated soap dripped on a dirty paint surface. Hindi technically nagdiscolor yung paint mo but nalinis sya compared to the rest of the panel. Hence the "stain". To fix that, all you have to do is to clean the other parts of that panel.

I'm assuming that sabon ang pumatak of course.

theveed, how do I clean the panels? naka-diamond gloss ako (this is another story sa isang thread na peke ako nila dati hehe) and try ko i-warranty claim sa carsavers this friday (22july), pag ayaw nila eh sa bigberts na ako patulong sa fender

hindi pa sumagot si blackmagic sa PM ko last tuesday, kaw na lang PM ko mamya dahil balak ko magpa windshield detail ulit and sidemirror etching hehe

[chain]

from the looks of things, mukhang matapang na sabon ang ginamit dyan.. as long as this stain hasn't etched into the paint, this can be removed easily by polishing with a abrasive.. hopefully baka pa nga makuha yan ng cleaner wax or some mild chemical cleaner para wala namang levelling ng paint na mangyayari.

[cardo]

May EB nga ba? hehehe

[ILuvDetailing]

Meron, pero di pa alam kung kailan :D

[theveed]

Revo: Day opp ni Bisente kasi Wed hehe, kaya di nasagot... Nakuha ko PM mo, finorward ko sa kanya ulit, di ko kasi alam presyo ng etching eh. Expect his reply within the day...

Martian: Basics lang muna kunin mo, good car shampoo, wash mitt (2), a couple of MF towels, old toothbrushes, a small bottle of Simple Green and a jar of cleaner wax will be a good start na di sayang pera mo. Please do a search nalang for products and visit PAD for more info.

[revoGSX]

Revo: Day opp ni Bisente kasi Wed hehe, kaya di nasagot... Nakuha ko PM mo, finorward ko sa kanya ulit, di ko kasi alam presyo ng etching eh. Expect his reply within the day...

nagreply na si vince hehe, punta ako bukas para maayos na itong fender stain bago pa huli ang lahat

theveed, Is there a detailing hobby starting kit I could by on your shop?

Martian: Basics lang muna kunin mo, good car shampoo, wash mitt (2), a couple of MF towels, old toothbrushes, a small bottle of Simple Green and a jar of cleaner wax will be a good start na di sayang pera mo. Please do a search nalang for products and visit PAD for more info.

oo nga theveed, any starting kit? marami na ako JML and microtek MF pero nalilito pa rin ako sa mga wax na gagamitin hehe, nag-visit na rin ako sa PAD pero nakakalito mga post, i'll try to post to get a clear answer hehe

yung starting kit like isang package ng wax/cleaners with MF and wash mitts, or isang package kit for users of BnD KP600 or yung rotary polisher

[ILuvDetailing]

revoGSX: You can start off with Mothers Step 1 as your paint cleaner and Mothers Carnuba Wax as your wax. Buy a couple of foam applicators, available sa Hans Tools Shang, baka meron din sa BB tanong mo na lang. Also buy the Mothers Clay bar from Bigberts (while supplies last). Wag muna Rotary, practice with the ROP first before jumping to a Rotary

[ILuvDetailing]

The reason I recommend Mothers, is that its easy to work with, and its easy to buff off.

[chain]

start with a cleaner wax.. then build your detailing arsenal from there.. this thread is a bit long but if you browse this starting from page 1, you'll pick up alot of do's and don'ts.

[theveed]

almost everybody started with a cleaner wax... go from there.

[patopig]

Hi Guys.

Tagal ako di nakapagpost (and nakapagdetail ng car ko). Kagagaling ko lang sa sakit and my car was pretty much neglected for around 3 weeks.

Since the paint is pretty dirty, I washed the car today and tried a cleaner wax. I tried the zymol cleaner wax since I still had an unused bottle that came with the zymol QD I bought a few months back (before I got to know EO Wet Wipe and Shine).

I was not expecting much since its a cleaner wax and its a cheapo zymol . I was surprised by the results. The resulting gloss was great and the paint pretty slick and clean too! Sorry I was not able to take pictures but I was really impressed by the result. It looked much better than 2x coats of IHG. I was not able to see if it filled my light swirls (but the description claims to be able to "remove" light swirls and scratches. Not sure if this is true though.)

I used the cleaner wax with my K600 plus a 6.5" LC DA Pad (white and flat). I worked it in like a glaze and removed it before it dried. I even sprayed it with a mist of water prior to buffing (as indicated in the instructions).

I'm sure it would not really compare with the high end waxes but I was amazed with what a 299 peso product (that comes with a QD that was decent for claying) could produce. Since its a cleaner wax, I'm not expecting durability so I'll be topping it with Mom's phase 3 tomorrow.

Theveed: Thanks pala for your answers to my questions in Detailing Basics and FAQs list thread. Dami ako natutunan! Sorry no check. ehehehehe.

[ILuvDetailing]

Hey patopig, nice meeting you pala pre. I was able to use the 6.5" pads, laki ng difference, parang bumigat yung ROP hehehe, well tried using it to apply the 3M Show Room Wax, it was a pleasure to use, pantay yung pagkalagay ng wax and since it is bigger than the 3M pads I can cover more area. Overall its a nice pad to have in your detailing arsenal. Next time I'll try it with a paint cleaner.

[Karding]

darn, ang hirap pala mag-detail. Took me 2-1/2 hours to finish from wash/clay/wax. Pero na-alis naman ng clay yung mga mildew. Yung Mother's cleaner wax yata sapat na para sa pag-alis ng mildew dahil nagdudumi ang pads at na-aalis naman ang mga mildew nung ginamit ko na.

Nakalimutan ko yung SD card sa bahay, bukas na ko mag-post ng pics.

patopig, ang Petrol Red ba eh equivalent ng Vibrant Red sa USDM MZ3? If so, hanef!!!

[patopig]

Karding: 2 1/2 hours to wash/clay/wax is actually pretty efficient. I normally take around 4-5 hours to finish all those.

I'm not sure about the Petrol Red being the same as the USDM Vibrant Red. Iba ata eh.. BTW, I saw your white 2.3 MZ3 sa TeamRage! Nice!

ILD: Nice meeting you too dude. Oks nga yung pad no? Much easier to use than the waffles and produces more consistent results. I hope ShinyMama offers more of these pads. I heard the orange is the most versatile.

[Karding]

2-1/2 hrs kse hindi buong car ang clay ko. Roof, door knobs, quater panel, and rear bumper ang may mga mildew.

patopig, kung yang nasa Avatar mo ang RED na sinasabi mo, yan na yon! hahahaha

Or medyo MAROON ang pagka red ng MZ3 mo?



Velocity Red pala at hindi Vibrant Red.

[gwapito69]

detailing ko ganito:

1. wash my car with dishwashing soap.
2. use mother's clay bar. side to side motion or back and forth motion only. make sure the surface is really wet.
3. Use z2 with zfx( fast activator ng zaino) back and forth motion and/or side to side only. Use an appicator pad na basa ng z6 pra tipid sa wax.
4. wait 30 mins to 1 hour try mo i wipe ng finger mo para malaman mo kung dry na o hindi. wipe off the wax and use z6.
5. tapos nun apply ka ulit ng z2 with zfx o z5(polish) with zfx then wait ka ulit ng 30 mins to 1 hour before you wipe it of then apply ka ng z6.
6 last wax na to for the day. apply ka ulit ng z2 with zfx then wait till it dries tapos wipe it off then use z6. tapos leave it like that for 24-48 hours para magsettle yung wax sa paint.

You can use the zaino waxes as often as you want since it's not gonna ruin your paint. tapos nyan eto na yung result. ako nakaka 18 coats na since last year pa..
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yan pwede ka ng manalamin sa kintab

[Karding]

dami namang waxes, ala akong pasensya sa ganyan katagal ang mahirap pa sa white car, di gaano kita ang hirap na ginawa ko :hihihi:

[gwapito69]

kaya kelangan mo ng beer para pampalipas oras... kung tuloy tuloy yun mga 3 hours lang lahat un.

[Karding]

sa ginawa ko nga lang this weekend sumakit na likod ko eh, yang ganyan pa kayang ma-trabaho

[gwapito69]

nung ginawa ko yung detail ko nangayayat ako kasi ang init. kaya malamang di ko na uulitin yan till next year kasi hanggang ngayon makinis pa naman yung paint ko e. ganyan talaga ang tumatanda palaging sumasakit ang likod. kung baga marupok na yung mga buto natin