Detailing Thread [For Newbies][ARCHIVED]

[orange23]

*orange buti pa yung sayo, maganda water beading.

panget ng water beading ng turtle wax na carnauba. mumurs kase



disappointed

salamat bro, ok lang yan, ubusin mo na lang muna yung TW tapos gamit ka ng ibang brand para di masayang...

dumating na yung mothers clay bar system, mukang mapapalaban ako sa mga watermarks ng Tucson... hehehe...

[Chikselog]

Congrats sir orange! Be sure po to apply wax after you clay para protected palagi ang paint .

[orange23]

Congrats sir orange! Be sure po to apply wax after you clay para protected palagi ang paint .

thanks bro... will do...

pag water etch, scratchX na katapat nun...

[azzkkr2600]

*chikselog: will try to get a photo soon. thanks!

*aej: yun mothers carnauba cleaner wax mas okay ang beading.

mga sirs and ma'am madkatz, okay ba yun glass science products? meron ako eagle one 20/20 glass cleaner. ano po diff nito sa glass science?

[madkatz]

*chikselog: will try to get a photo soon. thanks!

*aej: yun mothers carnauba cleaner wax mas okay ang beading.

mga sirs and ma'am madkatz, okay ba yun glass science products? meron ako eagle one 20/20 glass cleaner. ano po diff nito sa glass science?

That would depend on which glass science product you are referring to, if its the kit you are referring to then the glass scrub is good for removing stubborn road film, these are the greasy film on your windshield, road films are usually not removed by spray on products, and the rain clear is a rain repellant, now if you are referring to the rain clear spray type compared to the EO 20/20, they are actually both at par in terms of cleaning abilities but rain clear has the added advantage of providing short term water beading. now the difference for me would be that glass science concentrated more on water beading where EO 20/20 is just a mild glass cleaner, if glass science is ok? yes glass science products are really good, its what i use for road films and rain repellant.

[azzkkr2600]

salamat bro, ok lang yan, ubusin mo na lang muna yung TW tapos gamit ka ng ibang brand para di masayang...

dumating na yung mothers clay bar system, mukang mapapalaban ako sa mga watermarks ng Tucson... hehehe...

mga sirs and ma'am madkatz,

ano po ang gamit ng clay bar? for watermarks and water etch? same po ba ito sa swirlX na pang watermarks, swirls, and water etch? dami din watermarks yun sasakyan ko. darkblue metallic. kita agad. hirap tanggalin. nasubukan ko ng gamitan ng carnauba cleaner wax (hirap i-buff sakit sa forearms hehe)

2 bars for P1295? mahal po pla!

maganda din yata ang optimum brand. sana mura lang ang mga 8oz bottles sir edwin/ma'am madkatz.

[Chikselog]

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Claying removes bonded contaminants on the paint na di nareremove ng washing. It is also used to remove the existing wax on the paint para mas makapit yung wax na ilalagay mo.

Not sure kung makakatanggal ito ng watermarks. Kapag water etching naman, dapat doon polish na.

In your case sir azzkkr, most likely polish na solusyon dyan. May pic po ba kayo nung problem nyo sir?

Yang 2 bars, tatagal po yan. Di lang naman po pang isang oto lang yan.

Kasama na po yung MF towel, and Showtime sa Clay package.

[madkatz]

mga sirs and ma'am madkatz,

ano po ang gamit ng clay bar? for watermarks and water etch? same po ba ito sa swirlX na pang watermarks, swirls, and water etch? dami din watermarks yun sasakyan ko. darkblue metallic. kita agad. hirap tanggalin. nasubukan ko ng gamitan ng carnauba cleaner wax (hirap i-buff sakit sa forearms hehe)

2 bars for P1295? mahal po pla!

maganda din yata ang optimum brand. sana mura lang ang mga 8oz bottles sir edwin/ma'am madkatz.

Claybars are used for removing bonded contaminants on the paint, examples of these would be

Rail and Break dusts - these are like microscopic metal fillings that got stuck on your paint, these in time when exposed to water can develop rust and stain your paint

Asphalt - but you could use body solvents and kerosene for this

Mineral Water-water spots - the difference with this form of water spots and normal water spots would be the mineral content, acid rain etching will etch to the paint and would require polishing to reduce the clear coat to the level where the etched clear coat is level, mineral water spots are actually a combination minerals accumulated from the air and acid rain etching on the paint, the process of removing these would be to clay to remove the mineral deposits on the paint before polishing the reason is to have a uniform finish after polishing, its like imagine if you have about .02 mil of mineral deposit on the paint, and the etching also requires .02 mils of clear coat removed to be visually removed, then you would end up having to removing .04 mils on the unaffected area's, whereas if you clay you only remove .02 mils.

Tree Saps and bird droppings - claying these also work in the same way as mineral deposits, some tree saps bond to the paint really fast forming a sort of really hard spot of resin, and some bird droppings will also leave a number of bio-deposits on the paint like protein and enzymes that harden on the paint, you could remove these using claying, and you will need polishing to remove the remaining stain or etching.

So how do you know if you need to clay your paint?

get a plastic bag and put your hand inside it and glide your hand over the freshly washed and dried paint, if you feel small particles of dusts that didn't come off during washing, then those are bonded contaminants, some are visually noticeable some are not, but this test will let you feel the contaminants even if you don't see them.

[madkatz]

ooops sorry 2x post

[madkatz]

mga sirs and ma'am madkatz,

ano po ang gamit ng clay bar? for watermarks and water etch? same po ba ito sa swirlX na pang watermarks, swirls, and water etch? dami din watermarks yun sasakyan ko. darkblue metallic. kita agad. hirap tanggalin. nasubukan ko ng gamitan ng carnauba cleaner wax (hirap i-buff sakit sa forearms hehe)

2 bars for P1295? mahal po pla!

maganda din yata ang optimum brand. sana mura lang ang mga 8oz bottles sir edwin/ma'am madkatz.

Oh yeah one other thing, if you're planning on getting optimum products from him you might also want to get the claybar since he's sellings it below SRP, as for optimum products, they're really good, they're part of our most recommended products and we won't be investing on the brand if its not that good and economical being its main selling point, at first you would think they're expensive but they are made to be diluted to when you take into consideration that part they are cheap