Detailing Thread [For Newbies][ARCHIVED]

[madkatz]

*water: BB has collinite products but they charge extra for it and as far as i know, i might be mistaken, the only collinite they use is 845 which is the liquid version of 476 but 845 lasts a little less than 476 but still durable compared to other waxes

[water]

Tungkol naman sa claybar.

Ginagamit ba ito to smoothen the paint? Hindi nakakakupas ng paint.

So parang "pseduo cleaner wax" ang clay bar pero walang wax.

[madkatz]

*water: yes it is used to smoothen the paint by removing bonded contaminants in the paint, it works by picking up those particles that are not removed during the car wash stage, particles like brake dust and industrial fall outs just to name a few, and these can really mess up your paint during the paint preparation process. There are certain cases where the paint itself is already marred and damaged where even after claying the paint would still be rough but these are extreme cases already. Claying when done properly is virtually harmless to the paint, proper claying also entails the usage of proper lubrication to help the clay glide easily over the paint to remove contaminants without having to apply pressure. A common mistake people do is applying pressure on the clay for one and using very little lubrication as the second error. So when done properly claying is really harmless

There are 3 types of cleaner waxes, some cleaner waxes contain very mild abrasives/polishes to clean the paint, some use a chemical as a medium of cleaning the paint where a majority of them are really safe (klasse AIO) there are also some cases of strong cleaner waxes, these chemicals can also level and reduce paint (Moms Step1 and Megs Step 1), and the third one is a combination of abrasive and chemical cleaners. So basically claying removes contaminants in the paint but its not as thorough and as effective as pure paint cleaners, so they both fall on different categories, its pretty much like claying removes those fine particles where as cleaner waxes have the ability to remove oxidized paint and other "more" bonded contaminants and other defects.

[water]

madkatz

Ibig sabihin ng paint preparation: klasse aio? Cleaner wax?

So ang procedure Car wash-claying-klasse aio-collonite?

Ilan taon ka na sa detailing? Ang galing mo magexplain.

Napakarami salamat sayo.

[madkatz]

*water: Normally when you mention paint preparation its more of a 3 step process meaning first using a compound or a pure cleaner wax, followed by a polish and lastly with a LSP. Sometimes its a 2 step its a polish followed by a LSP, in an AIO or a cleaner wax i guess it is still considered as paint preparation but you do everything in one go.

My suggestion would be to:

1. wash
2. dry
3. remove asphalt
4. re-wash and dry
5. clay
6. AIO
7. 476

The reason why i suggested doing asphalt removing was to remove a majority of the asphalts, this way you clay doesn't get too contaminated that much, prolonging the lifespan of the clay

I've started reading about detailing and going to detailing shops and helping my friends with their project cars probably around 10 years ago but didn't take it seriously until i got my brand new innova last year october, since then i started doing everything hands on, buying new products, getting machines and polishers, trying compounds and all that stuff in one year where it was really different seeing it done and when you do it alone, it became my passing obsession to the point i actually went through the meguuiars and moms complete training last november and early december hehe

[jmpet626]

Meron na bang available na Mothers Synwax Paste? Tumigin ako sa mga malls wala pa silang stock.

[madkatz]

*jmpet626: As far as i know and as far as i asked the local distributor they still don't have it yet, and i too am looking for to trying that. Oh yeah you use a BnD kp600 right? what velcro did you use to attach the foam pads? i tried using some 3m velcro strips and it just came off the rubber backing pad, help pls? I just got my 2nd porter cable and im thinking of converting the kp600 to a velcro backing pad.