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[madkatz]

*water: I would agree with jon, get the one with brass fittings so that it would last you longer, and yeah using a foam gun used with the proper technique would give you better and cleaner swirl free results as compared to a bucket system, thats why i would suggest to everyone the does a bucket wash to get a grit guard for extra protection. Too bad i wasn't able to order any from autogee, last time so im still stuck with my make shift grit guard. Oh yeah BTW i don't use a foam gun so i can't really comment on it based on my experience but i read a lot of good comment regarding using them and on one occasion i was at my BF's friends place where we detailed their car and they had a foam gun it does seem to make washing safer, although lugging around the foam gun while wiping your wash mitt might tire you faster, its a lot safer especially if you rinse your wash mitt in a dedicated rinse bucket to loosen up grit particles.

As for waxes that would depend on which brand and at how many you plan on shipping here. If you're planning on shipping just one or two bottles or cans of waxes that are already available here in the local market then you're better off buying them here, As for those waxes that are not readily available here then it would really cost you more to ship them not to mention that most of those tailor made waxes are already a bit more expensive as compared to the normal consumer line, Now if you're planning on shipping more than one product lets say you're getting it from autogeek or some other online store or some detail store in the US and you plan on getting a lot of different kinds waxes and sealants lets say, some Klasse twins, or WG DPS, or OP opti seal, or collinite 915, or FK hi temp wax and pinnacle souveran then buying and having them shipped here would definitely make things more economical especially if you know someone thats coming here or if you know someone that could send them to you VIA balikbayan box. I just got my PC 7424 XP and some gallon chemicals and some megs gallons 2 weeks ago and it really costed me a lot less than buying them here locally but the thing is i had the whole balikbayan box filled up with different products to maximize the space and i just ended up spending 85$ for balikbayan box + 300 pesos for local delivery.

[water]

madkatz,

Babae ka pala. Kakagulat marami ka alam sa pag detail ng kotse.

Kasi may pupunta sa usa next year tapos uuwi din after ilan months kaya magpapabili ako foam gun and wax.

Sa wax and sealant ano maadvice mo quality pero reasonable lang price? Baka magalit kasi yung bibili kung mahal at hindi bilhin eh.

Wag yung level ng P21S carnauba wax kasi mahal na yun

Yung pang matagalan din magagamit.

Ano meaning ng WG DPS?

[madkatz]

*water: yup im a girl, my fondness about cars started with me being OC about my car especially when i had it waxed at shell retiro and it got lots of swirls all over it, since then i've gone a long way into knowing how to take proper care of my car

My mistake it should be WG DGPS, Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant.

My Recommendations would be

Sealant:

Klasse AIO and SG Combo - two step system thats a good value for money and nice shine

Megs 21 - One step Paint sealant, lasts as long as KSG, plays nicely when used with other Megs products

WG DGPS - A little more expensive but definitely looks better than KSG, somewhat like a wax effect although not as much like souveran quality as they claim it is

Optimum Polymers Opti-Seal - Cheaper Sealant i know, 25$ i think, lasts a little shorter than KSG but very easy to apply

Duragloss Aqua wax - Cheapest Sealant i've tried, not considered as a wax, gives a nice shine but doesn't last as long as compared to the ones listed above

Waxes:

Collinite 476 - the most durable wax i've ever tried, a few washes would remove the shine and gloss but it still protects for months.

Collinite 915 - a better looking version of 476 but lasts shorter as well

FK Hi Temp Wax - slightly less than 476 in terms of durability but looks a lot better

Collinite 845 - for those lazy days when you want to wax using liquid wax and want it to last up to a month

Optimum Polymers Car Wax - Cheap wax with a nice durability, very easy to apply just like using a QD but lasts as long as a regular wax

Duragloss Paste wax - roughly much like 915 in terms of durability, doesn't seem to shine and enhance looks that much but its price is very economical, i don't know if its still in circulation though

Prestone Car Wax - made of synthetic carnauba? didn't even know such a thing existed, another cheap wax thats under rated, a bit thick and hard to apply, decent gloss much like #26 and beads very well and lasts a little longer than the regular wax

If its overall performance i would rather go with Klasse AIO and SG and Collinite 476

Hope this helps

Merry Christmas

[water]

Wow! Babae nakakaalam nito.

May alam ka store sa usa na over the counter lang bibilhin para hindi na order online? Mas cheaper din ba sa store? Tagal kasi sa amazon nung gilmoure foammaster. Months pa aabutin ng shipping.

Magpapabili ako ng klasse. Pero stock lang muna. Ayaw ko muna magstart doon dahil two-steps.

Ano ok one-step lang pero hindi kupas paint? Carnauba ba one step lang?

How much each yang mga nabili mo?

Dati pala nakapag-wax na ako kotse. Turtle wax lang ginamit ko. Grabe maghapon ako natapos. Kuminis naman. Pero next time magpapatulong ako sa day-off ng car wash boy. Bayaran ko na lang labor nya.

Sobrang maraming salamat sa explanation mo. Nakakagulat talaga babae nagdedetail.

[madkatz]

*water: I don't know from which and what stores the items i had shipped here were bought from, but majority of the items i have here is bought from autogeek which is an online store, i only have my friend look for those items not available in autogeek in stores near her area, according to her there seems to be a lot of stores in the California area that carries these different products especially the larger hardware stores.

As for Klasse, its actually not that hard to apply and remove, just have a water spray bottle and set it to mist, i actually find Klasse AIO to be a bit easier to remove as compared to waxes and as for the SG the water spray bottle helps a lot, i can do a Klasse twin application in about 3 hours or less, after that is all left for the SG to cure for about 12 to 24 hours.

Hmm the reason why i classified Klasse AIO and SG as a two step is because AIO is best designed to be used with SG, its pretty much like AIO cleans and protects the paint without removing and reducing paint and then SG further enhances the protection and gloss of the paint. Klasse AIO alone can already give you a durable protection its just that using both with amplify the results and make it worth while

As for simply protecting, all other items i have listed are used along in terms of your monthly protection. In the detailing scene theres what you call a 3 step, a 2 step and a 1 step.

the 3 step is when you apply a compound followed by a polish and then a sealant or a wax

the 2 step is when you apply a polish or cleaner followed by a sealant or a wax

and the 1 step is when you use an All-in-one wax like Mothers carnauba cleaner wax, Megs cleaner wax, Quick Detailer #66, Klasse AIO and a whole lot more, these waxes cleans you paint making the color shine at the same time providing protection, however the protection this offers is not as durable (with the exception of Klasse AIO ) as compared to the pure LSP

And then there's the pure LSP stage where all of the products i have listed under my previous post falls, this is usually done monthly and is designed to protect only, it has no cleaners or polishes.

I think i got you a bit mixed up, sorry for that, So bottom line is what do you consider as the "one step" you mention above? Are you pertaining to a LSP ( Last Step Procedure) that purely protects? If so, then all of the products listed previously are lets say "one step LSP's" and if you're pertaining to One step waxes, then as mentioned there's Moms Carnauba cleaner wax, Megs Deep cleaner wax, and a whole lot more

As for the prices of the items just check out autogeek.net, i think the only one i didn't get there is prestone at 9$, and FK Hi temp wax at 20$ and Duragloss paste wax at 13$ since they weren't available from autogeek that time.

Actually waxing doesn't need to be very tiring, if you're just waxing and merely protecting the paint then you wouldn't even be tired after applying waxes, what most people do it apply pressure while waxing which is pointless IMO its just the same as lightly gliding the applicator over the paint, same results, and as for buffing it off, once you learn to apply really thin layers of LSP then removing them would be a breeze.

Hope this helps, Sorry for the confusion with the previous posts description

Merry Christmas

[water]

Oo yun mga one step carnauba cleaner wax.

Yung Collinite 476 all in one ba yun?

Talaga ba maganda P2IS carnauba kaya mahal? Ano difference sa s100?

Regarding naman sa windshield. Ok ba gamitin stoner invisible glass?

Ok compare ko prices jan sa autogeek, autopia, amazon.

Salamat salamat ulit.

[jonjon_u]

Oo yun mga one step carnauba cleaner wax.

Yung Collinite 476 all in one ba yun?

Talaga ba maganda P2IS carnauba kaya mahal? Ano difference sa s100?

Regarding naman sa windshield. Ok ba gamitin stoner invisible glass?

Ok compare ko prices jan sa autogeek, autopia, amazon.

Salamat salamat ulit.

The search function is your friend. There are lots of info/answers in the Autogeek and Autopia forums for these questions.

Anyway, here are some of the results from a quick search done at the Autopia website:

Collinite 476

Stoner Invisible Glass Aerosol

Stoner Invisible Glass Pump Spray

P21S vs. s100

I'm sure you will discover more info that would satisfy your curiosity.

Hope this helps.


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Jon

My auto detailing experiences:
http://autodetailingexperience.blogspot.com/