Wax or Sealant on New Paint?

[shok]

How long do I have to wait before applying sealant or wax on a newly painted car or car panel?

[Yuki13]

afaik new paint needs to breathe. months ang aantayin nyo sir.

[yourman_2nd]

How long do I have to wait before applying sealant or wax on a newly painted car or car panel?

depende sa paint/top coat na ginamit. according to the shop that worked on my car, 3 weeks lang pwede na kasi Dupont ginamit. kung ibang paint, advise ng shop 3 months.

[shok]

Wow tagal pala.
What will happen if I put wax/sealant agad?

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[7138]

Wow tagal pala.
What will happen if I put wax/sealant agad?

Our trusted pintor recommends 1 month ang pagpapatuyo
ng pintura bago i-final buffing ang anzhal paint.

he even said na mas okei kung ibilad mo kung gusto mo
mas mabilis ang pagpapatuyo.

kasi daw kahit tuyo na yung ibabaw,
yung mga layer sa ilalim nyan hindi pa gnun
katuyo kaparehas ng ibabaw.

hindi pa ako nakakakita ng incident ng nasirang pintura dahil sa
pagpahid ng kung ano sa body ng hindi pa fully tuyo ang paint,

pero i think ang possible scenario is sa kakapahid mo ng wax
or sa pag buff off nito, pwedeng sa diin ng kamay mo,
"mapunit" yung paint. lalo pa kaya kung DA polisher ang gamit.

[shok]

Copy sir. Balak ko kasing lagyan ng touchless sealant pero antay na muna mg one month. Ibabalik ko pa din for final buffing. May portion akong nakitang medyo hazy pa. DuPont daw pala ginamit.

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[monty_GTV]

Copy sir. Balak ko kasing lagyan ng touchless sealant pero antay na muna mg one month. Ibabalik ko pa din for final buffing. May portion akong nakitang medyo hazy pa. DuPont daw pala ginamit.

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may i know sir anong brand ng touchless sealant? paanong application niyan spray then no buffing?

[shok]

CarPro Hydro2.
Spray, Flood/Rinse, Dry.

Wala pa bang nakatry dito?

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[monty_GTV]

ah ok sir, ngayon ka lang narinig yang touchless sealant kahit sa pinoy detailing forums, parang wala pang gumamit niyan.

[red_one]

iba lang way of application of CarPro Hydro2 but it is still a sealant and it will have bad effect on paint that is not yet cured. if you want to protect your new paint, you can put Pure Glaze product.

A common procedure for fresh paint is to hand or machine glaze the paint after any wetsanding, cutting and buffing has been performed.

Fresh Paint = Less than 30 days since it was sprayed

In most cases, fresh paint is sanded, buffed and glazed within a few days after being sprayed, before the owner picks up the car. For the glazing process you need to use a product that is "Body Shop Safe", that means there are no ingredients that will contaminate a fresh paint environment and cause surface adhesion problems for the new paint.

One type of surface adhesion problem is called "Fish Eyes" and that's where some type of contaminant remains on the prepped surface at the time the paint is sprayed and the surface tension created by the contaminant prevents paint from sticking to that area, so the paint pile up around the contaminated area and creates a circle without paint and because of the appearance after the paint dries, this type of defect has been given the name... "Fish Eye".


Two of the most well known Body Shop Safe glazes in the refinishing industry are

Meguiar's M07 Show Car Glaze
3M Imperial Hand Glaze

Body Shop Safe Glaze on Fresh Paint - #7 Show Car Glaze - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum

[shok]

*monty_GTV: Sa AG madami ng sumubok. Lasts for at least 2 months for most.

*red_one: yup. Not planning on using it until after 1 month. Thinking of getting 3M Imperial Glaze muna. May sachet ba nito? I don't want to buy a bottle that I would be using for a few times only.

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[greatauror28]

Ang age ng paint naman hindi iyong pagkadeliver sayo nung car eh dun pa lang magiistart. Take note sa driver's jamb ng car kung anong manufacturing date. From then on pwede ka na magbilang pero as far as I know pwede mo nang i-detail agad pagkakuha mo ng kotse. Maraming kasa may in-house detailer sila so hindi mo malalaman kung ano na pinahid/nilagay nila dun bago mo pa lang makuha yung car, unless you specified na wag galawin pati mga plastic at covers sa hood at roof.

Ibang story naman kapag nagpa-repaint ka. I had both of my passenger doors repainted kasi somebody keyed my car nung 3-weeks old pa lang yun. The bodyshop used DuPont paint and the painter told me no waxing within 30 days daw so the paint can "fully breathe".

In regards to wax or sealant, i guess the difference would be quite subtle. Since I don't have sealant at hand, i just used car polish+car wax with a DA buffer and the result is perfection!

[red_one]

*red_one: yup. Not planning on using it until after 1 month. Thinking of getting 3M Imperial Glaze muna. May sachet ba nito? I don't want to buy a bottle that I would be using for a few times only.

Buy the 16 oz. bottle. It will not be wasted. You can use glaze before applying wax or sealant later. It produces wet look, more shine and deep gloss. Some products combine Polish and Glaze into one, e.g. Meguiar's Ultimate Polish.

the normal detailing process is:

Wash > Clay* > Polish* > Glaze* > Wax/Sealant > Quick Detailer & Spray Wax

*Clay if paint has embedded surface contaminants
*Polish if paint has swirl marks and minor scratches. Polish is abrasive so can remove swirls and scratches.
*Glaze if you want more shine and gloss. Pure glaze has no abrasive components. It contains oils and wetting agents.

[shok]

Wouldn't applying glaze before the wax/sealant affect the durability of the wax/sealant layer because it's not bonded directly to the prepped surface? What I mean is why not use a long lasting sealant glaze like ksg later instead of the imperial hand glaze by 3m?

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[red_one]

Wouldn't applying glaze before the wax/sealant affect the durability of the wax/sealant layer because it's not bonded directly to the prepped surface? What I mean is why not use a long lasting sealant glaze like ksg later instead of the imperial hand glaze by 3m?

first, why waste a good product like 3M Glaze. second, if you are afraid that it will affect durability of the sealant, then apply sealant first, and then apply glaze. but really, glaze should have no affect on durability of the sealant so it is applied prior to wax or sealant.

[Lyle]

Mga sir, what if palaging nauulanan yung car kasi newly repainted yung hood and bumber? Wala kasi bubong driveway.

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[7138]

Mga sir, what if palaging nauulanan yung car kasi newly repainted yung hood and bumber? Wala kasi bubong driveway.

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Probably The best you could do on a car surface without surface protection (wax/sealant)
such as your case kasi Newly painted panel, hose it down nalang if time permits,
lessens the chance of contaminants sticking to your paint,
our rain isnt car paint friendly kasi.

Or, naisip ko lang, and dont qoute me on this,
Hindi pwede kasi yung mga hand applied waxes and sealant because of the pressure it creates
Sa surface, why not try a wash and wax car shampoo pag naglilinis ka kotse.
Somehow siguro this gives you peace of mind na kahit papano may wax yung surface.
Just be sure na hindi ka lang nagaaply ng pressure sa newly painted surfaces

[red_one]

Mga sir, what if palaging nauulanan yung car kasi newly repainted yung hood and bumber? Wala kasi bubong driveway.

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if the paint is not yet fully cured, i suggest applying glaze for some protection at least. new paint is susceptible to damage from acid rain because it is softer than old (cured) paint. after the rain, wash the car and re-apply glaze. after the curing period is over, you can polish and apply wax/sealant.

[red_one]

Mga sir, what if palaging nauulanan yung car kasi newly repainted yung hood and bumber? Wala kasi bubong driveway.

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if the paint is not yet fully cured, i suggest applying glaze for some protection at least. new paint is susceptible to damage from acid rain because it is softer than old (cured) paint. after the rain, wash the car and re-apply glaze. after the curing period is over, you can polish and apply wax/sealant.

[shok]

May nabili akong sachet ng 3M paint protector. Ito nga ba ang imperial hand glaze repack nila?
May paint shop safe label sa labas at pareho ang nakasulat sa likod.
Kung IHG nga ito, mas mura pa per ml ang sachet kasi 650Php/500ml bottle nito while 60Php/50ml lang ang sachet.

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