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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    ~oooohhh blind nationalism, i like the term. there was a time in south korea that foreign cars such as BMWs are vandalized. the koreans are too proud of their hyundais and kias.

    i am not saying that the thing is good but the thing is just a prototype. there are lots of things for improvement.

    and...

    if you don't like the car, then the car isn't for you. its for someone else.
    Its a NEW world now, baby. BMW is the top selling luxury import in KOREA.

    Unfortunately, when you are set for production within the year I don't think there is not much you can change.


    Look at the CHEAP radio cassette. Even my maid has a CD/MP3 player. Sana naman they plugged up the holes before showing this to GMA. Konting PULIDO naman. Can't you even hide those screws?!?

    Are you seriously going to sell 30,000 units of this in a year at P400T?
    Last edited by hein; June 13th, 2007 at 11:29 PM. Reason: ad

  2. Join Date
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    #2
    yun chevy venture namin dati , ang resale value na ata ngaun 350k - 380k. napakasarap sumakay para ka nasa eroplano

    na-miss ko tuloy hehehe

  3. Join Date
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    #3
    Again, this is my last and final warning to everyone, this thread is for Tsikot phuv prototype, post your comments/rants etc etc to the mvpmap's phuv feedback thread. anything posted after this that is considered offtopic will be deleted... pasensya na pero gumugulo ang thread na ito eh...

    pinaghiwahiwalay ko na nga yung mga threads para mas madali sa mga readers...

    PARANG AWA NYO NA!!!

  4. Join Date
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    #4
    *Hein,

    I am not going to argue with you on the issues you have raised. As I have previously said, you do have a point. But what I take issue with is your mindset.

    You recently signed up in the skyscrapercity forum, too, apparently just so that you can bash the efforts of the MVPMAP. Evidently it is not enough for you to do your bashing in this forum. You simply have to spread your antagonism.

    I simply can’t figure out what your objective is in doing so. But your fervor in pointing out the flaws of the MVPMAP PhUV does make me wonder if you have a personal vendetta against someone or a company that is part of MVPMAP.

    Proving your point is one thing. Bashing the efforts of others is something else. As I have said before, it is far too easy to be timid and to rationalize one’s timidness by ridiculing the efforts of others who dare take the steps one dare not take. Why can’t you even acknowledge MVPMAP’s courage to attempt to come up with a PhUV? The truth is that their immediate success is not that critical. What is important is that they have paved the way for others to follow – either by riding their momentum or by picking up where they will leave off.

    Reviving the PhUV program is no easy task and this new MVPMAP PhUV might as well be considered a baby step. Clearly no one can guarantee that even the collective efforts will be successful. That is why the program needs all the support it can get so we Filipinos can get to the point where we can compete globally. That obviously is a long-term goal, given that international competition is already impeding the local industry’s growth. Unfortunately, with Filipinos like you, we do not even need other races to trample on our efforts.

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    #5
    i like that mowag eagle..... all flat planes and looks better.

    i notice there are a bunch of chinese euro-1 to euro-3 diesel engines on alibaba. there is a 4jb1 derivative, this is probably what the MVPMAP PHUV uses, and probably would be the best one for the Tsikot PHUV as well. the Chinese also make a CRDi diesel! but given their tech base, I think the 4jb1 is the best choice..

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    #6
    ogpro,

    noted.

  7. Join Date
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    #7
    Sir.........relaks lang........pro kung ako e like the losser candidate for senator spent 100million bucks or more.........siguro may share na ako sa goverment natin........na pwedi nating ipagmalake na 100% pinoy made na pweding e komapara sa mga nag lalakhan companyang gumagawa ng tsikot natin........from engine up to the smallest parts of the car.......kaya nating gumawa nyan..........regards

  8. Join Date
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    #8
    I think it should be cost-driven.

    Eh jeepney nga 200K lang sa isang showroom sa may Balintawak. Yun dapat ang target!

    Mowag Eagle! Mowag Eagle! look, exposed hinges! flat metal plates for doors and body panels! non-shiny paint job! I like it!



    Kahit jeepney technology and powertrain, basta lang wag jeepney ang hitsura, i think it would fly.

  9. Join Date
    Jun 2005
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    #9
    the thread is already pretty long, so please be considerate... just ranting...

    1. why not start on an existing platform, like what the China is doing. buy the old designs (ie: previous gen. revo) and start from there.

    2. the goal would be to produce a vehicle which would be able to compete at the currently available AUVs and vans in terms of reliability, performance and looks at a MUCH cheaper price. we are trying to move forward so it must be competitive.

    3. minimize the use of imported components (limited to the engine and transmission), all components should be made locally in a modern(competitive) assembly line, maybe buy(donate/invest) the equipments from the closing plants in the US. and also how's the quality of steel made here in the philippines?

    4. financial support/research partnership from foreign government/companies. and also this should be tax-free(to keep cost down).

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