Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype

[ehnriko]

OK... sa affordability panalo . but are filipinos ready for this type of car?

NO....

[orly_andico]

something a bit nicer on the eyes

nawawala yung image...


Unfortunately it is a BMW. And with their two-wheeled creations costing as much as a Toyota Corolla... no hope here.

But if someone could make something like this, for three people (1+2 seating, kahit bench seat yung sa likod) and sell it for 100k or 150k i'm sure maraming bibili.

Maiba ng konti. Dibi there was this huge cottage industry sa Cebu before, for 100k you would get enough parts to build three Suzuki mini-vans? Napaisip ako dun, of course hindi siya sustainable kasi you are dependent on a steady supply of surplus Suzuki's pero it would be possible to build a car-like thing on top of a Suzuki minivan chassis right. Body on frame pa rin at maliit.

Pero nakasakay ako maraming beses sa Davao ng jeepney built on a Suzuki minivan chassis. Kasya ang 10 na tao sa likod! 5+5 seating. Yun nga lang can't imagine what's happening to the 660cc engine. Pero nagkalat mga ito sa Davao.

[OyiL]

oyil, dprox, Arhcitect rimski, orli, everyone... What do you think of these initial concepts... THis is what comes to my mind when you talk about cheapt PhUV design... pero practical

my idea is the same as yours.
i think we need market input rgearding the concepts we have now. para di tayo maligaw kakadesign. the public might be expecting something different

[orly_andico]

I think there are two efforts at work here:

1) the dreamers / car designers
2) the people who want to make something workable

For me you have to decide what do you want to do. Do you want to build the custom car you always wanted, or do you want to build something that people will benefit from? I don't think they are compatible.

Personally, I think what the market needs is a really cheap vehicle that's relatively safe and doesn't look ugly. If the Smart Car cost 150k it would be perfect for this role.

The large pickup/AUV type vehicle will always end up above 300k in cost. Thus putting it in competition with established brands.

Look at it this way: car manufacturers and dealers keep trying to lower the barriers to new car ownership. Example: Ford will actually let you drive home a Focus with 38000 cash out. That's total cash out, inclusive of comprehensive insurance, three-year LTO registration, and chattel mortgage. The catch? almost 20000 per month amortization for five years.

The point is, it's actually easier to buy a new car than a used car, because very few banks will allow you to finance buying a used car. And I submit, an indigenous Philippine vehicle will get lumped with the used cars.

If I can get an Isuzu Crosswind at good terms from the bank for 725k, why will I bother with an unknown locally-made car for 300k+ with a remanufactured engine? even more so when it turns out I cannot finance the 300k.

[orly_andico]

Dagdag pa pala...

with surplus Hyundai Grace vans going for 200k, having a new vehicle, containing remanufactured components at 300k+ becomes really a tough sell.

That's why I think it has to be below 100k price.

Sorry to rain on your parade guys, but at sub-100k prices there isn't a lot you can do.

[OyiL]

something a bit nicer on the eyes
Maiba ng konti. Dibi there was this huge cottage industry sa Cebu before, for 100k you would get enough parts to build three Suzuki mini-vans? Napaisip ako dun, of course hindi siya sustainable kasi you are dependent on a steady supply of surplus Suzuki's pero it would be possible to build a car-like thing on top of a Suzuki minivan chassis right. Body on frame pa rin at maliit.

Pero nakasakay ako maraming beses sa Davao ng jeepney built on a Suzuki minivan chassis. Kasya ang 10 na tao sa likod! 5+5 seating. Yun nga lang can't imagine what's happening to the 660cc engine. Pero nagkalat mga ito sa Davao.

oo nga ano. pwede bang i-classify as PhUV itong mga small vans na ito?

[OyiL]

I think there are two efforts at work here:

Look at it this way: car manufacturers and dealers keep trying to lower the barriers to new car ownership. Example: Ford will actually let you drive home a Focus with 38000 cash out. That's total cash out, inclusive of comprehensive insurance, three-year LTO registration, and chattel mortgage. The catch? almost 20000 per month amortization for five years.

The point is, it's actually easier to buy a new car than a used car, because very few banks will allow you to finance buying a used car. And I submit, an indigenous Philippine vehicle will get lumped with the used cars.

If I can get an Isuzu Crosswind at good terms from the bank for 725k, why will I bother with an unknown locally-made car for 300k+ with a remanufactured engine? even more so when it turns out I cannot finance the 300k.

ewan ko pero from the news, the PhUV is a brand-new vehicle. And a financing scheme has been approved. and its not rying to compete with the established brands but against the subic cars which is killing the philippine auto industry. that includes the big car manufacturers like ford and toyota. its not about building my dream hot rod but its about helping to keep the philippines be recognized in the global automotive industry. i just bought a car magazine, "World of Cars, Worldwide Car Catalogue", our country is listed, Pasajero Motors Corporation is there with a picture of their CityCab. I want more of that in there. That's the dream.

[orly_andico]

i meant the PHUV you guys want to build.

eh kung so gobyerno.. siguradong overpriced yan at maraming kurakot.

there was this initiative some time back to replace all jeepney engines with new direct-injection units from Isuzu at the cost of 100k per jeepney yata. approved na daw financing nun etc. etc. but i've never seen it.

[OyiL]

i meant the PHUV you guys want to build.

eh kung so gobyerno.. siguradong overpriced yan at maraming kurakot.

there was this initiative some time back to replace all jeepney engines with new direct-injection units from Isuzu at the cost of 100k per jeepney yata. approved na daw financing nun etc. etc. but i've never seen it.

The PhUV were building is not for ourselves.

correction: the financing scheme is currently being negotiated pa pala. sorry.

regarding dyan sa replacement, alam mo naman filipino - filipino time yan. gustong-gusto yung last two minutes tapos mag-3 point shot trying to beat the clock para dramatic ang dating.

[orly_andico]

Pwede. But a more likely outcome (since the Italian government supposedly loaned the money to our government to implement the direct-injection project) is that someone has already pocketed all the money and made fettucini.