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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    There will always be "provincial" places anywhere you go. Even in the western areas like Europe and USA, there are under developed places. I don't see it as good or bad.

    But the thing with China, those "key cities" shows a rapid development from where they were 10 or 15 years ago. There is a "minor" city called YIWU that I visited this year. It got it's own new airport that opened early this year. That airport is more modern than our NAIA Terminal 2 and it's only meant to handle domestic flights.

    There is another city (Xiamen) that I first visited 15 years ago. It had a few narrow concrete roads and other places had narrow asphalt or clay roads. The buildings were old traditional structures. This year, during a day's stopover visit, the city is more modern than Metro Manila. It has 4 to 8 lane roads through the city center with light traffic. It has a system of elevated roads for dedicated buses that run like our M.R.T. (and it costs less than our MRT to setup & operate too). It even has a SM Mall.

    Agree here.

    And China should be emulated because they were able to bring hundreds of millions of their people (han, hun, tibetan and other ethnic groups in China etc.)out of poverty in just a few decades and still counting. That's a big accomplishment for a very huge country (pop. largest in the world at 1.3 billion (official). 3rd largest country in the world in terms of land area. (Russia 1st and Canada 2nd) ) always underestimated by the West.

    Now, unofficially, its the 2nd largest economy after the US...

    It was a slow process for an ancient "primitive" kingdom (rocked by socio-eco-political upheaval) into a galloping modern and industrial state.

    Thats development. Slowly but surely. Always with optimism. This great nation always see op****ity in every crisis. No wonder China has the distinction of having the longest running continuous civilization in the world.
    Last edited by jpdm; September 24th, 2009 at 11:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpdm View Post
    And China should be emulated because they were able to bring hundreds of millions of their people (han, hun, tibetan and other ethnic groups in China etc.)out of poverty in just a few decades and still counting. That's a big accomplishment for a very huge country (pop. largest in the world at 1.3 billion (official). 3rd largest country in the world in terms of land area. (Russia 1st and Canada 2nd) ) always underestimated by the West.

    Now, unofficially, its the 2nd largest economy after the US...

    It was a slow process for an ancient "primitive" kingdom (rocked by socio-eco-political upheaval) into a galloping modern and industrial state.

    Thats development. Slowly but surely. Always with optimism. This great nation always see op****ity in every crisis. No wonder China has the distinction of having the longest running continuous civilization in the world.
    China is it's own market for the goods it manufactures. It definitely helps if you have billions of potential consumers of the goods you produce within your own "backyard". It is also a big help that they are reachable via road or rail. It makes distribution simpler. You can drive for days and you can see kilometers more of good highways to take you anywhere and you can still see more new roads under construction everywhere.

    Compare that to the Philippines where our road network is rather lacking in the outer areas. You can see half-done roads waiting for funding. Our inter-island shipping can be crippled simply by the sinking of a single ferry (we have a shipment of goods from the southern philippines that is delayed over a week and a half and counting because of this). Even the transport of certain types of products is hampered by certain levels of red tape that makes it both a headache and expensive to distribute throughout the country.

    As for the issue of corruption, at least in China, corrupt government officials are shot after they are convicted of their crimes. This makes them an example for others. In the Philippines, these proven corrupt officials even have the guts to run for president (again!) or sue people for speaking the truth (aside from kidnapping/salvaging them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    China is it's own market for the goods it manufactures. It definitely helps if you have billions of potential consumers of the goods you produce within your own "backyard". It is also a big help that they are reachable via road or rail. It makes distribution simpler. You can drive for days and you can see kilometers more of good highways to take you anywhere and you can still see more new roads under construction everywhere.

    Compare that to the Philippines where our road network is rather lacking in the outer areas. You can see half-done roads waiting for funding. Our inter-island shipping can be crippled simply by the sinking of a single ferry (we have a shipment of goods from the southern philippines that is delayed over a week and a half and counting because of this). Even the transport of certain types of products is hampered by certain levels of red tape that makes it both a headache and expensive to distribute throughout the country.
    Agree here.

    As for the issue of corruption, at least in China, corrupt government officials are shot after they are convicted of their crimes. This makes them an example for others. In the Philippines, these proven corrupt officials even have the guts to run for president (again!) or sue people for speaking the truth (aside from kidnapping/salvaging them).
    As for Erap and Lacson, universal karma is now wasting them-big time.

    That's why Im hoping for Noynoy or Villar to win the election to put some sense in our government.

    Despite all of these bad news, they did not extinguished my optimism that all of these things will all come to pass.

    China has endured humiliation, defeat (Opium War, Nanjing (Nanking) Massacre etc.), hunger and war (Communist, Cultural etc) many times over compared to our country and yet was able to rise as it is today-as very strong nation.

    If the Chinese people have just wallowed in misery and defeat, they may have not attained their very respectable status right now (one of the world's largest economy)

    The Philippines, I believe can do it also. As long as Pinoys will think positive and work hard for it.

    It may not be visible in Metro manila, but there are some form and pockets of "revolution" in the provinces. Naga, Puerto Princesa, Davao, Cebu and even Marikina are doing great. And many others.

    Leaders of these LGUs are doing their best to make out of the grim situation in the country.

    But again, success cannot be attained overnight, it can be done slowly but surely and with determination.
    Last edited by jpdm; September 24th, 2009 at 02:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpdm View Post
    Agree here.

    As for Erap and Lacson, universal karma is now wasting them-big time.

    That's why Im hoping for Noynoy or Villar to win the election to put some sense in our government.

    Despite all of these bad news, they did not extinguished my optimism that all of these things will all come to pass.

    China has endured humiliation, defeat (Opium War, Nanjing (Nanking) Massacre etc.), hunger and war (Communist, Cultural etc) many times over compared to our country and yet was able to rise as it is today-as very strong nation.

    If the Chinese people have just wallowed in misery and defeat, they may have not attained their very respectable status right now (one of the world's largest economy)

    The Philippines, I believe can do it also. As long as Pinoys will think positive and work hard for it.

    It may not be visible in Metro manila, but there are some form and pockets of "revolution" in the provinces. Naga, Puerto Princesa, Davao, Cebu and even Marikina are doing great. And many others.

    Leaders of these LGUs are doing their best to make out of the grim situation in the country.

    But again, success cannot be attained overnight, it can be done slowly but surely and with determination.
    si architect na lang kaya iboto ko, kalmadong kalmado in the face of adversity. diretso pa rin ang direksiyon. KAYA sa darating na halalan,........


    wala na OT na ako.

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    Architect, Oyil and others are not idle dreamers. They're doers. Even as we speak...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OyiL View Post
    si architect na lang kaya iboto ko, kalmadong kalmado in the face of adversity. diretso pa rin ang direksiyon. KAYA sa darating na halalan,........


    wala na OT na ako.
    You cracked me up.

    I am simply old enough to have gone through so many things in life that I am experienced enough to distinguish the things that I have control over from the things that I don't have control over.

    The things I have control over I try to focus on and do my best. The things I have no control over, I live to God and pray.

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