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    #61
    jpdm,

    Thanks.

    No, I don't have any orders from abroad, but the German Fiat X1/9 is raising money(?) because they want to test it in Nurbergring. Honestly. Although, that will be far fetched. Now, I only build cars for my son and for myself. I am too old to be worrying about speaking and dealing with clients. I have decided to take it easy and not pressure myself, it is health related.

    Maybe in 3 weeks I will be able to mount the subframe to the car and from there, proceed with the front subframe. I will be using forged aluminum spindles from a C5 corvette and forged aluminum A-arms that I will adapt for the Fiat. Steering will be power rack and pinion because my son has week arms.
    Last edited by turbo; October 31st, 2009 at 06:57 PM.

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    By the way, on an inboard coilover shocks will bell crank has some advantages.
    1. You can easily vary the ride height by altering the length of the push rod even without adjusting the coilovers.
    2. You can theoretically vary the coil spring rate by adjusting the point at which they engage the bell crank.
    3. Maintenance is a zip because the spindles are not crowded by the Chapman strut.
    4. Unsprung weight is lightter.
    5. Camber/caster adjustment is a breeze because of the adjustable Heim joint rod ends.

    Thanks again.
    Last edited by turbo; October 31st, 2009 at 06:58 PM.

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    *turbo

    Ang galing po ninyo. Ang ganda ng Eleanor. I hope I see this finished project.
    Good luck sir sa pagcomplete ng project.

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    #64
    Quote Originally Posted by turbo View Post
    By the way, on an inboard coilover shocks will bell crank has some advantages.
    1. You can easily vary the ride height by altering the length of the push rod even without adjusting the coilovers.
    2. You can theoretically vary the coil spring rate by adjusting the point at which they engage the bell crank.
    3. Maintenance is a zip because the spindles are not crowded by the Chapman strut.
    4. Unsprung weight is lightter.
    5. Camber/caster adjustment is a breeze because of the adjustable Heim joint rod ends.

    Thanks again.
    Can tsikot guys from this thread, see your works in person?

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    jpdm,

    Everybody is welcome. But maybe on the later part of November. By that time, we may have normalcy back in our life. there are still many things to clean and repair. That is how we were hit by Ondoy.

    But definitely, you are more than welcome. It is just about 15 minutes drive from Balintawak via NLEX.

    Oldschoolhack,

    Thanks, I promise to finish the projects.

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    #66
    sir turbo,

    trip nyo ba maging fabricator ng protoype? o kaya e gusto nyo bang tumulong sa pag-estimate ng pag-prototype?

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    Oyil,

    Engineering exercise lang ito. Just to see if I can do it.

    Just like what I did to my engine in 1986. I mounted a pair of Solex 44 side draft carbs to my 327 engine. It worked. And all vacuum and liquid hoses are stainless steel braided hoses. I machined all fitting and adpaters.


    And this rear end suspension on my friends "Gray Eleanor". The leaf springs were replaced by inboard shocks with pus rod suspension.


    And an Intake manifold that is not available in the market was done painstakingly for two weeks.


    All are working engineering exercises.
    Last edited by turbo; November 1st, 2009 at 09:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbo View Post
    Oyil,

    I machined all fitting and adpaters.

    All are working engineering exercises.
    I dont beleive that all you did and what have been doing unitl now is an engineering exercise. All those has been done before, and you know from the back of your head that it will work.

    You love doing this. This is your passion. And you do everything yourself, including the machining. bow ako dyan. I would like to end up like you - doing what i really love to do.

    back to my question:
    sir turbo,

    trip nyo ba maging fabricator ng protoype? o kaya e gusto nyo bang tumulong sa pag-estimate ng pag-prototype?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OyiL View Post
    I dont beleive that all you did and what have been doing unitl now is an engineering exercise. All those has been done before, and you know from the back of your head that it will work.

    You love doing this. This is your passion. And you do everything yourself, including the machining. bow ako dyan. I would like to end up like you - doing what i really love to do.

    back to my question:
    Bow rin ako kay turbo! The stuff that can get us our dream Pinoy vehicle on the road!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OyiL View Post
    sir turbo,

    trip nyo ba maging fabricator ng protoype? o kaya e gusto nyo bang tumulong sa pag-estimate ng pag-prototype?
    What is this prototype of which you speak? :innocent:

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    #71
    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    What is this prototype of which you speak? :innocent:
    parts, molds, jigs, tools, thingy's, or anything we will need help to build "the car". if he does the machining himself, chances are...either he owns a machine shop, he works in a machine shop, or he has some useful tools at home. he has the knowledge regarding the materials and the labor requirement. pati time estimation. useful. e tayo puro wondering how much money and how much time.

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    #72
    donbuggy
    sorry ngayon lang uli ako nagpost sa tsikot. nagwowork na kasi ako (currently a graphic artist) kaya wala na ko time magtrabaho simula nung umalis ako manila. problema ko dito scanner tsaka baduy design ko ng hummer na sinasabi ko before pero kung may scanner naman dito di naman ako maghehesitate na i-scan lahat ng gawa ko.

    gusto ko rin i-3D kaso napatigil ako ayun di ko na nasabayan si sir JJ sa pag aaral hahaha

    right now kung may time talaga ako at inspired akong gumawa at di tinatamad, ang mindset ko eh nasa pagdedesign naman ng "somehow futuristic" man lang para may improvement naman ako. puro hanggang salita lang ako right now kaya pagpasensiyahan niyo na lang

    gusto ko talaga matuto pano gumawa ng fiber glass body and bodykits from scratch, ano gagamiting materials, ano procedure, pano mechanism ng isang kotse, pano ito nagfufunction, drawbacks niya, at magkano gagastusin lahat lahat para yun gawing kong inspirasyon habang nagiipon ako sa sashurin ko galing sa work kong kasisimula lang. no offense pero namamahalan kasi ako magpagawa lalo na sa atoy.. bata pa ako para makahawak ng ganung kalaking pera na need ko and it's much better kung ako mismo gagawa ng sarili ko

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    #73
    Oyil,

    I don't know if I can help. Maybe you know more than I do.

    But if I can help even hahit konti, ok lang.

    Since 1974, I have been turning lathes and welding. I was only 14 years old then. With my experience in machine design and kinematics, maybe I can help even how small it is.

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    *turbo, do you think its possible to re-invent "philippine cars" i.e. Philippine jeepney, owner type jeeps and AUVs?Using available resources?

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    jpdm,

    I always say that everything is possible as long as the right inspiration comes along and you put your mind to it. So, it can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbo View Post
    jpdm,

    I always say that everything is possible as long as the right inspiration comes along and you put your mind to it. So, it can be done.
    Thanks for this reply.

    As an expert in the field, just an estimate, how much will it cost to build a small car using available materials in the Philippines (local parts as possible i.e. metal sheets, radiators, alloy wheels etc.) or can we build a car or owner type jeepney or jeepney and AUV with lots of curves? (Toyota Liteace newer versions. Those that came from Japan with diesel engines)

    Can we build engines (small engines for tricycles) here (copied engines) using the facilities of certain machine shops here?

    Are we not capable of fabricating a complete set of suspensions and underchassis parts?
    Last edited by jpdm; November 2nd, 2009 at 02:18 PM.

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    #77
    Quote Originally Posted by turbo View Post
    Oyil,

    I don't know if I can help. Maybe you know more than I do.

    But if I can help even hahit konti, ok lang.

    Since 1974, I have been turning lathes and welding. I was only 14 years old then. With my experience in machine design and kinematics, maybe I can help even how small it is.
    sige na nga. kahit na yung konting experience na lang na iyan, pwede na. hehehe.

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