Engine design at accessories? kaya na ba?

**JJCarEnthusiast** · May 30th, 2009 07:31 PM

meron naba tayong nag dedesign ng engine at kayang mag build ng engine? marami na ding naka gawa ng mga prototype pero engines (and platform) are from donor vehicles. may nakakagawa na din ng chassis. check. engine? accessories and amenities? yeah i hope so.

**rhuwrx** · May 30th, 2009 09:14 PM

An engine designed from scratch? As in 100% filipino designed and made? wala pa yata sir. Kahit yung mga simple na 2 stroke wala pa yata tayo.

Una, napakamahal at time consuming mag design at magfabricate ng four stroke cycle na engine from scratch, aabutin ng taon at limpak limpak na salapi para makapag design at makapagfabricate at hindi pa sigurado na magiging reliable ito. In fact car manufacturers have entire divisions dedicated to "powertrain development" with hundreds of engineers.

Pangalawa, wala or kulang tayo sa 3rd party mga industries na may kakayahang gumawa or mag mass produce ng engine parts like engine block, pistons, crankshafts etc. Lahat puro imported tayo.

Pero malay natin meron palang pinoy abroad na nagkaroon ng experience sa pag design ng engines at one day he/she could share knowledge on that matter.

**ghosthunter** · May 30th, 2009 10:21 PM

If you are looking for a potential 100% pinoy car today... you will have to look at electric cars. They are simpler to design and build.

**JJCarEnthusiast** · May 30th, 2009 10:29 PM

yes engine design from scratch.

the time alloted for the research and designing will be a big step in our automotive industry. kung malaking pera man ang gagastusin at matagal ang r&d nito, ang kalalabasan naman ay isang OP engine. very big achievement which will benefit us a lifetime. marami na tayong magagaling na assemblers. pati designers madami na din. sana engine naman. pag na tapos ito we will be our own mitsubishi toyota or honda or what.

kahit sa design lang muna mag umpisa. may kilala akong mekaniko working in JAC motors (the chinese brand). he once mentioned to us that they will be designing a small diesel engine. he didn't mention for what, or will there be a prototype, nor did they finish it. after that i haven't heard anything. that was a long time ago.

**rhuwrx** · May 31st, 2009 01:44 PM

Kaya siguro kung sa kaya, ang pinaka bottomline lang dito ay kung sino ang taong gustong gumastos nang ganoon kalaking pera para mangyari ito.

Para kasing nagtapon ka lang ng pera pagtitingnan mo ang practical point of view nito.

Sa tingin ko mas ok yung idea ni sir ghosthunter, or let's skip the current technology now and design and invest in the future of autombiles. We can be "Pioneers" instead of merely being "innovators" of existing technologies, baka dun pa tayo yumaman. just my .02 cents.

**wildthing** · May 31st, 2009 04:02 PM

ganang sa akin lang, medyo mahirap kasi kulang ang typical academic knowledge to create an "engine"..

pero kung kaya kong gumawa... I'd like to make a 1200 engine pero 12 cylinder hehehe... maliit na engine pero kayang maghi-RPM siguro yung ganito.

**JJCarEnthusiast** · May 31st, 2009 04:08 PM

GH's idea seems good. EVs hmm...

yes tama ka din, we can be pioneers of our own technology.

then we should design powerful EVs, like the tesla roadster lol. just kidding..

but i am aware that the engines reliabliity is the first concern

**ghosthunter** · May 31st, 2009 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by JJCarEnthusiast

GH's idea seems good. EVs hmm...

yes tama ka din, we can be pioneers of our own technology.

then we should design powerful EVs, like the tesla roadster lol. just kidding..

but i am aware that the engines reliabliity is the first concern

There is more than just a "first" concern. You will also have to consider the existing market where large companies have spent millions of dollars just to get it's engine into production That includes testing for everything including reliability, fuel consumption, emissions, safety, performance, durability in extremes, etc.

**marg** · May 31st, 2009 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

If you are looking for a potential 100% pinoy car today... you will have to look at electric cars. They are simpler to design and build.

Kahit Electric motor for cars, hindi kaya gumawa ang Pinoy from scratch.

**JJCarEnthusiast** · May 31st, 2009 07:12 PM

we have a lot of skilled engineers. what is lacking is funding and support from the government. so sad the government don't bother that much to spend for reviving our automotive industry.