R & D (Research and Duplicate) - Why don't we do it?

[EVO-V]

There are alternative engine designs already out there and can be made using readily available parts and processes.

The thing is, how do you make a business out of this? Yes you do need it to be compliant, it is not an excuse for businesses nowadays to make something that isn't compliant just to make it cheap. The cost will burden the public, e.g. the Manila kuliglig infestation.

Every business is dependent on the market and how it is shaped by policies. Policies will largely depend on what serves the public's greater interest.

[uls]

nobody's investing in Philippine-original motor vehicle mass production coz there's no money to be made

that's the bottom line

people can sit around and discuss this stuff for another 10 yrs and it will be all just talk

[Helios]

agree on all counts except the 'toy' part.
of course it has to exceed beyond the targeted customers' (perceived) expectations if we are to market it as a serious product (want vs need). i see that the auto industry picks up the need of the customers comparatively well, except that some still fail the execution part of the process. the pursuit of balancing form and the functional attributes is never-ending so not everyone is there, yet. the market is still wide open for small and independent coachbuilders. being relatively small and independent allows for some flexibility in the design and building process without restrictions and conditioning of those limited to to work on the same theme for the same market segment. the same tools can be utilised to build related products like helmets, scooters etc. the initial strategy is to build a platform for communication between the manufacturer, the prospective sponsor, and the target buyer. it is critical that the concept vehicle should be able to translate the fascination into a fast purchase, a bystander into a buyer before an actual production initiates. fail this- forget it.

just to be practical, don't stick that philippine brand anywhere near the concept. just 'uv', and scrap the 'ph'. the concept vehicle has to generate a strong international interest to attract the local market.

how many buyers you ask> tap into the bir's unlisted millionaires of the phils, i hear you've got plenty hiding in cafes

[EVO-V]

For coach builders to be successful we need to establish a skills trade. From apprentices to craftsmen. And we need a market that supports that trade and culture.

[uls]

what we have here in the Phils. are truck body fabricators. they make bodies for imported trucks

Centro, Almazora

yan lang kaya ng Pinas --- gumawa ng katawan ng truck

[Ry_Tower]

what we have here in the Phils. are truck body fabricators. they make bodies for imported trucks

Centro, Almazora

yan lang kaya ng Pinas --- gumawa ng katawan ng truck

At mag-recon ng imported outdated trucks.

[EVO-V]

what we have here in the Phils. are truck body fabricators. they make bodies for imported trucks

Centro, Almazora

yan lang kaya ng Pinas --- gumawa ng katawan ng truck

Actually you're right to a point and infinitely wrong on another.

Almazora actually assembles trucks and buses. A good number of manufacturers make parts for anything as simple as cables to pistons to transmission components.

We have to understand that we can't be too emotional about NOT having a Filipino made car. There are a lot of countries who couldn't give a collective regret of not having an automotive industry.

It is economical to build buses here because they aren't as mechanically complex as cars, and that they cost a lot to ship as CBU's.

Vallacar Transit, for those of you in the Visayas and Mindanao region, rebuilds their own buses. The teardown is complete from body, to engine rebuilds, to casting and machining the brake drums. The quality is nothing short of exceptional.

A good example of "if there is an economic rationale mixed with political will and vision -there is a way to do it".

[uls]

Almazora actually assembles trucks and buses. A good number of manufacturers make parts for anything as simple as cables to pistons to transmission components.

Almazora and Centro can build metal boxes and put windows on them. where am i infinitely wrong? you must be the INFINITELY RIGHT AUTO INDUSTRY EXPERT

We have to understand that we can't be too emotional about NOT having a Filipino made car. There are a lot of countries who couldn't give a collective regret of not having an automotive industry.

who's the one emotional about filipino-made car? i've been on the other side of filipino-made car advocates since the beginning. read those threads started by jpdm years ago. i've been telling them for years it's not gonna happen

It is economical to build buses here because they aren't as mechanically complex as cars, and that they cost a lot to ship as CBU's.

Pinoys can build metal boxes and put windows on them

and pinoys can rebuild engines manufactured by someone else

Vallacar Transit, for those of you in the Visayas and Mindanao region, rebuilds their own buses. The teardown is complete from body, to engine rebuilds, to casting and machining the brake drums. The quality is nothing short of exceptional.

pinoys can rebuild. that's all