Lahat naman ng technology related stuff ay prone to reverse engineering. Instead na dyan ilagay ang pera, eh ibibili na lang ng bagong Hermes na bag.Originally Posted by uls
Cultural problem nga talaga kasi for 60 years, di man lang nag-evolve yung jeepney. Ayaw umisip ng ikabubuti tas ayaw pa maglabas ng pera. Parang sapat na yung bulok na kaisipan. LOL
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June 21st, 2012 09:43 AM #1
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June 21st, 2012 10:05 AM #2Yan ang Filipino "pwede na yan" attitude. Basta umaandar at pwedeng pagkakitaan, kahit na 99% itim na usok lumalabas, sumusuka ng langis, coolant at krudo ang makina, kalbo mga gulong, dome light lang ang ilaw sa gabi, at kalahating dosenang bomba sa preno bago kumagat... "pwede na yan". Originally Posted by A121
Lahat naman ng technology related stuff ay prone to reverse engineering. Instead na dyan ilagay ang pera, eh ibibili na lang ng bagong Hermes na bag.
Cultural problem nga talaga kasi for 60 years, di man lang nag-evolve yung jeepney. Ayaw umisip ng ikabubuti tas ayaw pa maglabas ng pera. Parang sapat na yung bulok na kaisipan. LOL
I think that "Filipino ingenuity" is overrated and many have already forgotten what it really means.. or rather, what it should mean.Last edited by oj88; June 21st, 2012 at 10:08 AM.
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June 21st, 2012 10:18 AM #3like i said pinoys are leisure oriented, end-user consumption oriented
kita mo mga businesses dito sa Pinas -- puro malls, restos, bars, retailers
we are a nation of traders. bili-benta. hindi produce-benta
unlike other Asian economies that are goods producers for the world
money flows into their economies from selling stuff to the world
ang Pinas naman overseas labor ang source ng money flow (and service sector - BPO)
and the money doesnt get invested. it goes directly to end use consumption
asa pa tayo magkakaroon ng innovation and reverse engineering sa atin
wala naman pera napupunta sa ganyan ventureLast edited by uls; June 21st, 2012 at 10:23 AM.
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June 21st, 2012 05:53 PM #4may kakilala ako na nag-work dati sa isang malaking kumpanya ng bakal somewhere in the south. meron daw Korean na naging trainee duon several years back. pagkalipas ng mga ilang taon bumalik bilang consultant kasi nag-hire yung kumpanya ng Korean company para tingnan kung ano problema sa planta. nagulat daw yung Koreano kasi dun lang daw siya natuto tapos nung bumalik siya walang naging improvement samantalang sa kumpanya daw nila sa Korea na-improve na nila yung machineries kasi ni-reverse engineering nila. dito sa atin, basta tumatakbo at gumagana pa sige lang.
sa maraming bagay ganun tayo status quo na lang- maging sa buhay ng mahihirap tanggap na nila na ganun na sila; sa mga binabahang lugar sasabihin maliit pa ko ganyan na yan kaya wala ng naisip na solusyon, ang makalumang transportation system natin na walang improvement at marami pang iba.
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June 21st, 2012 08:20 PM #5Basic example lang yung Jeep... Originally Posted by gongrhey
Sa Japan... Mitsubishi gets underlicense from Willys to build jeep... Mitsubishi used what they learned, progresses to Pajero line.
Sa Korea... Hyundai gets underlicense from Mitsubishi to build Gen 1 Pajero/Galloper...Hyundai used what they learned and progresses to Sta Fe and Veracruz.
Sa Philippines...Sarao finds nothing wrong with the Jeepney... Jeepney pa rin... :PLast edited by Monseratto; June 21st, 2012 at 08:24 PM.
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June 21st, 2012 09:23 PM #6natumbok mo brader hehehe Originally Posted by Monseratto
regarding real R&D, mahina or halos wala sa atin yung industry-academia partnership. halos lahat ng R&D ng industry in-house.
dito sa Japan (tsismis lang hehehe), lalapit si Nissan etc sa isang professor para may ipa-research (mostly basic research lang). si professor i-reresearch yun at ang research assistant niya ay yung graduate students. ewan kung kanino ang patent pero andali ng usapan nila. kung sa atin yun, kung sinu-sino pa ang makikisawsaw.
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June 21st, 2012 09:58 PM #7tanong lang mga bro, sa palagay nyo ano ang kailangan sa atin para mag-jumpstart ang research and development / duplication?
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June 22nd, 2012 09:49 AM #8Funding, support, budget, training, etc. Originally Posted by gongrhey
In short....Money.
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June 23rd, 2012 06:55 PM #9 Originally Posted by gongrhey
money comes second, and possibly support comes third
'kapal ng mukha' ultimately comes first, yes the license to take risk when pushed towards a grander scale, bolder purpose, when mind's set to task and when words turned to action. you need big balls to make a difference
'a little sleep, a little folding of arms to rest, poverty comes like a thief' -that proverb probably pertained to the brown indio mentality. you know- more fun ek ek
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June 23rd, 2012 07:20 PM #10Kailan? When overhead inputs come down to more reasonable/competitive levels. Originally Posted by gongrhey
Example: cost of electricity, more stable political environment (and less red tape), protection from militant worker unions.
Even with that, it will still be a long shot because there is only a small local market so such an investment must rely on export to other countries for it's goods.
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June 22nd, 2012 10:21 AM #11mga Hapon kasi di iniisip ang sarili Originally Posted by fourtheboys96
pag pinoy tanong agad ng prof -- "magkano?"
tapos hihirit ng -- "sa akin ang patent. bayad kayo royalty"
di pa nag uumpisa yan ha
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June 25th, 2012 12:17 PM #13nung nasa state u ako, ang iingay ng tibak laban sa pagpaparesearch ng mga private companies. commercialization of education ang tawag nila. dapat daw mamamayan ang makikinabang hindi mga kapitalista. gusto ko ngang pag-uumbagin pag nangangampanya sa lab namin. wala namang silang binibigay na pera o kaya problemang kailangang solusyonan... anyway, nung may nagparesearch sa amin. naging ok naman ang resulta tas napaltan yung mga naghihingalo na mga pc at sirang measuring equipment sa laboratory namin. Originally Posted by fourtheboys96
sa patenting, wala namang kwenta yan kasi di naman yang kaya basta-bastang kopyahin. instead na patent, gawing startup agad or isabak agad sa industry yung na-research.
isa pa sa napansin ko eh ang Pinoy, mahilig sa "diskarte". kadalasan ang diskarte pang short-term na solution lang.
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June 27th, 2012 05:05 PM #14hahah buti ka wala na state u. ako babalik na after ng mag-aral hehehe. Originally Posted by A121
pero tama ka. no to commercialization kuno. anti-capitalist pero wag ka puro amercan brand ang suot ng mga kolokoy.
pero sa state u, dami talaga che che bureche. red tape ba. wala na nga budget, napakahigpit pa pag may nagbibigay o donate ng pera.
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