Let's discuss kei cars...

**architect** · June 7th, 2008 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by OyiL

If we build and sell our pinoy designed kei cars, to have an advantage over japanese brand new, second-hand subcompacts, and foreign-made (of course not our own ) AUV's, what should ours have?

Hmmm, that is a very good question.

One thing I can think of is price. Looking at the components used, if we use a China-made F6A, we should be able to sell ours at a price way below the P350K price of new mini-cars.

**OyiL** · June 7th, 2008 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by architect

*dondi,

Great Design! Can You Make It Fit The Kei Car Specifications (reference - http://keicars.blogspot.com - May Official Specs Dyan). Can You Do A 5-door Version (4 Doors And Liftgate)?

Btw What Software Are You Using?

Thanks.
We Are Planning To Buy Some Suzuki Wagon R Knockdown Kits That Will Serve As The Basis For The Prototypes.

U Got Me Interested

**architect** · June 7th, 2008 06:39 PM

BTW, the group is looking for more "angel funders." We already have pledges for the first two prototypes. The molds we are making can be used to build ten prototypes.

**architect** · June 7th, 2008 06:39 PM

Uy, OyiL, kala ko interested ka mula sa umpisa!?!

Anyways, go for it. I am sure you will be able to come up with several interesting designs. Ikaw pa!

**OyiL** · June 7th, 2008 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by architect

Uy, OyiL, kala ko interested ka mula sa umpisa!?!

Anyways, go for it. I am sure you will be able to come up with several interesting designs. Ikaw pa!

i meant coming up with serious concepts. hindi unrealistic art.

**architect** · June 7th, 2008 07:41 PM

Hehe. I know what you mean. Well, having a physical platform often helps a lot in restraining the artistic mind from producing unrealistic designs.

Can't wait to see what you will produce.

**wildthing** · June 7th, 2008 08:06 PM

tutal merun ng target engine (F6A) may be we should get/use the full specs nito para pagnagdesign ay shoot na agad... minimal revisions na.

i find the Daihatsu Copen a good simple sportscar design na pang student (2 seater lang) ... nookie and pogi points while in college.

**architect** · June 7th, 2008 10:33 PM

oh. we are just waiting for jing to finish the BOM.

**donbuggy** · June 12th, 2008 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by wildthing

i find the Daihatsu Copen a good simple sportscar design na pang student (2 seater lang) ... nookie and pogi points while in college.

Introducing a kei based sports car first then the other kei variants later (regular car, van, truck) has its pros:

- An eye-catching 2-seat sports car will have a halo effect on the rest of the line up because it has a nicer shape and proportions.

- There are no competition locally in the small and affordable sports car category.

- A low volume manufacturing approach (built to order like the Morgan or by batches) can be done for sports cars and has low start-up cost.

**OyiL** · June 8th, 2008 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by architect

Hehe. I know what you mean. Well, having a physical platform often helps a lot in restraining the artistic mind from producing unrealistic designs.

Can't wait to see what you will produce.

Originally Posted by architect

The way they import the kei cars is to chop them up into four pieces so structural integrity will be suspect. Besides we don't like the shape. We will just use the engine, tranny, seats (re-upholstered), the window riser mechanisms, the steering wheel assembly, the a/c, the suspension. We won't be using the doors, fenders, hood, bumpers, lights, glass, etc.

I would suggest you get in touch with jing if you want to use the same space frame. Of course, you are welcome (actually encouraged) to design your own. If you chose this approach, try to consider using as many of the modular components we have designed.

then it would be good if we can have the 3d of the spaceframe.