The 2010 MVDP: Feat. the "Filipino Car" or Philippine Brand Vehicles

[uls]

Life, the world, is a race

there are winners and losers

in a race, there are those who get ahead and there are those who get left behind

that's the way it is

di matanggap ni jpdm na ganyan ang mundo

in his world, government makes everyone run at the same pace

[jpdm]

Life, the world, is a race

there are winners and losers

in a race, there are those who get ahead and there are those who get left behind

that's the way it is

di matanggap ni jpdm na ganyan ang mundo

in his world, government makes everyone run at the same pace

Hindi talaga katanggap tangap ang mag-smuggle dahil mali at illegal. Kung sa inyo ang ilegal ay tama magsama kayo ng protektor mo.

You and your protector terribly missed my point.

And I dont need your pathetic lectures.

And I dont live in an imaginary world.

You do.

With your blatant lies (for your accusations against my province based on a motorcycle forum and stupid tabloids and from your own spins and invented scenarios.
and claims or tic claims based on hearsay and tabloids.

[jpdm]

Even normal business isn't about fair play.

It is always have been about getting the upper hand against your competition.

I should remind you, Im talking about smuggling here. And not about defeating a competitor using superb business plan (legal).

Again, its smuggling.

So its ok to undermine competition by tolerating smuggling, a certified illegal activity, ghosthunter?

Is this what you want to point out?

Tell me.

[ehnriko]

Masters or Servants...

Control the game or be the game...

The big picture is... Pinoys in general is the game... we are being played.

There's nothing wrong with that if we are aware of it.

Unless we are out of the rabbits hat, we won't be able to get out of the predators sight.

Do these elites give a damn about what we think?... very unlikely.

It's a chess game.

What we all think doesn't matter... we are merely pawns.

We are their dinner or their snack.

For as long as they control us through monetary debt....then we are all enslaved by this system. Credit goes to Morgan Chase, Rockefeller, etc.

How do we escape it?...

[jpdm]

well, that's your view

i don't see it that way

they're clever

they're crafty



speculation. where's your proof?



fair play?

haha

you live in an imaginary world

a world where everything's fair

where everyone is nice and gentle and law-abiding

Pathetic words from a guy who definitely lives in his own imaginary reality that all people are scheming like those smugglers that i keep on denouncing.

Anyway, see, you dont see smuggling and smugglers as bad or illegal. It only confirms the way you think and the way things are in your own fantastic and warped reality.

Thats why i definitely know what reality is compared to you who keeps on spinning false truths to justify your vested interest.


Now, just to correct a false scenario that you invented again, uls.

Who said the world is fair? Who said that everyone is nice, gentle and law abiding?

Obviously, it did not come from my mouth but definitely came from your delusions and fantasies.

I acknowledged and made it clear that there is an illegal activity going around. And it is being done by people who are mocking existing law. And undermines the business of legal importers allowed by government.

And I said the government should crack down and reduce if not eliminate the illegal activity.


Is this about your idea of fairness?

In fact, the unfairness of the illegal activity compelled some government offices like the LTO and BOC to correct the situation.

Is that imagination uls? Or you are imagining things?

For the record, not everything is fair, and yet you are implying smuggling goods like cars and vehicles fair?

Thats unfair that why the government is going to crack down the illegal activity.

Uls, your warped idea of reality is making you create a warped system which unfair competition.

like sheep

in your world, there are no wolves

dude, in the real world, in business, there are wolves.

sly, cunning, crafty wolves

they don't care about rules

they either find their way around rules or break them altogether

it's their nature

they're dominant alpha personalities

they enjoy challenges

Ya, you can put a "no-nonsense guy" in the BOC

they'll just figure out of a way around him




like sheep

in your world, there are no wolves

dude, in the real world, in business, there are wolves.

sly, cunning, crafty wolves

they don't care about rules

they either find their way around rules or break them altogether

it's their nature
they're dominant alpha personalities

they enjoy challenges

Are you creating another of your demented fairy tales uls with you as the story teller and hero and me as your imaginary enemy? pathetic.

Please try to wake up and stop daydreaming.

Its so clear that Im aware and in fact denouncing those people who are violating the law, the smugglers ( the so called wolf in your fairy tale)and the the government (sheep)is doing something about it.

And I completely deny all your baseless and delusive assumptions.

Ya, you can put a "no-nonsense guy" in the BOC

they'll just figure out of a way around him

So your point is?

Again, Is smuggling about fair play uls?

tell me?

So based on your twisted/warped reality, smuggling should be tolerated right?

Its this the best you can throw at me?

After blatantly lying that my province is a notorious haven of chop chop-- you are now telling the whole tsikot community that the government cannot do anything about it and yet the reality says, the government is slowly reducing smuggling in Subic?

[jpdm]

My point is very simple to understand uls and i definitely dont need your motorcycle forum and tabloid based invented stories and now your fantastic fairy tales with wolves and sheep.

I acknowledge the reality that there are people who smuggle vehicles and definitely engaged in unfair and illegal activity and the government should
agreessively do something about it.


I never claimed that life is fair but the government must make the competition fair between legitimate importers and smugglers.

Now, if you have some other realities to think about uls and your protector, you tell your fantastic fairy tales to them.

[ghosthunter]

I should remind you, Im talking about smuggling here. And not about defeating a competitor using superb business plan (legal).

Again, its smuggling.

So its ok to undermine competition by tolerating smuggling, a certified illegal activity, ghosthunter?

Is this what you want to point out?

Tell me.

LOL! Is that all you are so concerned about? Not about the human trafficking, illegal drugs, proverty in general?

Just saying that you can have your illegal smuggling but technical smuggling is something that is done under the current rules of law. It has been done by importers to retailers of consumer goods like soap, shampoo or even skin lotion yet I don't really see anyone making a big deal about those.

Even those byaheros that buy stuff from abroad and bring it in their overpacked luggages and "balikbayan" boxes. Many of them re-sell their stuff at tiangge stalls in the metro. That is still technical smuggling since no import tax was paid for those goods.

Lawyers do the same thing all the time. They use the word of the law to their advantage. Might that be for the morally good or bad, that isn't going to be important.

[uls]

I acknowledge the reality that there are people who smuggle vehicles and definitely engaged in unfair and illegal activity and the government should
agreessively do something about it.


I never claimed that life is fair but the government must make the competition fair between legitimate importers and smugglers.

well, good luck with that vision of yours

THE WORLD DOES NOT WORK ACCORDING TO HOW YOU IT SHOULD IDEALLY WORK

it doesnt and it won't

dream on

there will always be those who do not and will not play by the rules

as i said before, no matter how you regulate it, there will be those who will find ways around rules or break them altogether

that's the way it is

your vision of the govt making everyone play by the rules will remain a vision

you can't stand reality and it's pissing you off

[uls]

BTW, you got the analogy wrong

wolves = faster, sharper, craftier players

sheep = govt? wrong

sheep = dumber, slower players

the govt is the shepherd

the govt protects the sheep from the wolves

that's all the govt can do -- protect the sheep

the govt can't eliminate the wolves

[niky]

Just dropping in to say:

Man, I can't believe you guys are still at it.



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While the government can't stop smuggling, they can always try.

The best way would be the simplest: Remove all import exemptions. All of them. Then make all importation legal. All of it. Just implement taxes properly.

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It's incredibly stupid that we are banning the importation of used cars, when again, we don't see used cars competing with local manufacturing on a level field. (NOTE: Level: In other words... people would rather buy a used Japanese car (whether imported or local) than an owner-type or jeep simply because a used car has more convenience and safety features, and is more modern...)

Stupid because there are many importers who are now bringing in brand new imports at lower prices than the "casas" or with more features for the same price (see Pitstop et al). These guys are a real threat to sales... so much so that Lexus refuses to service these imports, to scare people into not buying these cars.

And yet... they won't act against these legal gray market importers, or even petition against them... because all the manufacturers (even those with local capacity) do it themselves.

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I'm just waiting for someone to figure out that anyone can do the Norkis Trick.

1. Get a manufacturing license.

2. Bring in a car through a freeport. Tax free. Refurbish it. Rebuild the engine, repaint the body. Reupholster the interior.

3. Sell it under your "brand".

4. Profit.

Anybody want to buy a "Niky" Mustang? Made in the Philippines! :hysterical: