Radiator leak / repair shops?

[revoGSX]

hi guys,

meron leak yung radiator ng 2000 revo diesel ni erpats.. everyday naglalgay ng tubig (mga 1/3 liters) sa reservoir at so far hindi pa nag-overheat..

saan po ninyo ma-recommend ipa-check ito? sabi sa toyota casa eh 3 days iwan sa kanila at duda ako kung meron sila pang repair ng radiator, baka ipa subcontract lang nila sa labas..

actually, hindi ko makita kung saan yung leak, pero laging basa yung foam sa ilalim ng radiator , around 8K ata ang bago sa casa.

any recommended shops na okay at hindi taga maningil?

thanks

[frt]

Lav Ra MOn daw sa may erodriguez near st lukes...plan to bring my PAJ also there

[speedyfix]

you can call the shop and ask if may evercool na radiator for your car. probably half the price of the original unit and just as good kasi brand new. (7237625)

check mo narin yung drainplug ng rad mo kasi baka yun lang yung sira.

[revoGSX]

thanks..
sige check ko muna drain plug..

wala pang 3 years yung radiator na ito, nung 2001 november ay pinalitan sa casa ng bago dahil nabangga ..

[revoGSX]

guys, meron pa po bang ibang suggestions dyan? ipa-check ko na ito tomorrow bago pa lumala.. thanks

[leodolindojr]

gumagawa ako ng radiator kung leak lang ang problema mo gagastos kalang dyan ng 500 tanggal kabit nayun..dito location ko sa evangelista makati, 09206094938 text kalang saken, ang alam ko sa mga revo manipis ang hinang nyan sa mga hoses.. dun mdals nag kakaroon ng leak yan, check mo saang side napatak ang tubig..pag sa katawan mo nakita yung leak sa radaiator tube ang leak nyan..

[1D4LV]

much better if you can replace with evercool just like speedyfix said, its better than having it selded and repaired, since kaya may leak yan eh dahil baka corroded na o rusty na yung loob. having it repaired is not a guarantee that it will not leak soon.

[dest]

Mga Sir kapag malapit kayo dito sa location ng shop Punta lang kayo dito. Available brand new at Surplus Radiator.

We repair radiator, overhauling and convertion, Available Brass tank for replacement cracked Radiator plastic tank.



More Information

Ito address ng Shop namin
FERMIN Aircon, Electrical and Radiator Shop
1291-A Quirino Ave., San Dionisio Paranaque City
Tel # 8293771 or text 0915-5413610 / 0918-4314519

[anthon05]

hi .. how much new rad for crosswind 2001? and saan made?

yung radiator ko may leak sa kabitan ng hose sa upper. i'm thinking since matagal na rin palitan ko na.


thanks

[cocoy]

Mga Sir kapag malapit kayo dito sa location ng shop Punta lang kayo dito. Available brand new at Surplus Radiator.

We repair radiator, overhauling and convertion, Available Brass tank for replacement cracked Radiator plastic tank.



More Information

Ito address ng Shop namin
FERMIN Aircon, Electrical and Radiator Shop
1291-A Quirino Ave., San Dionisio Paranaque City
Tel # 8293771 or text 0915-5413610 / 0918-4314519

how much for a starex radiator.. the plastic part lang sir ang mai crack.. walang leak ang aluminium part is ok.. thank you sir...

[GaijinFrozz]

Sir,

Meron pp ba kayo radiator parts for Toyota Lucida? Mabilis pong maubos ang tubig every 30mins kailangan lagyan sa reservoir. Kng meron po ok lng po bng magpa quote? Tnx.

[Basbasjr]

Mag boss? Ask Lang Kung ok Lang bang Palitan ng tanso ang cover ng radiator? Ang sabi Kasi ng kaibigan ok hnd daw advisable yun.. Tama ba un?

[dest]

Mag boss? Ask Lang Kung ok Lang bang Palitan ng tanso ang cover ng radiator? Ang sabi Kasi ng kaibigan ok hnd daw advisable yun.. Tama ba un?

Marami nagsasabi ganyan, di raw advisable. pero tanungin niyo sila kung saan libro nila nabasa? Ang alam ko. cost cutting ang dahilan kung bakit plastic at aluminum ikinakabit ng mga car maker, dahil mahal nga naman ang tanso. Sabi nila mas maganda ang plastic top dahil yon ang unang puputok kapag nagoverheat, hindi madadali daw ang cyl head, Malayo po yon ang dahilan. Kasi po may pressurized na radiator cap at may mga rubber hose, idagdag pa yong warning temperature gage sa dashboard.

Kaya pumuputok o naleleaks ang plastic cover dahil marami ng barado yong mga tubo ng radiator kaya napupuersa ang plastic top na magkabitakbitak. Dapat itong maoverhaul at malinis mga tubo para tuloy tuloy ang daloy ng tubig, Kung halimbawa pumutok yong plastic top kung saan ka naroroon. doon ka na lang dahil mahirap maghanap nagrerepair ng ganito. Kung brass top na, wala ka na kakaba kaba, kahit gaano kalayo ang biyahe. Dahil kung hose lang nasira, marami ng mabibili kahit saan probinsya.

[EVO-V]

Plastic radiator tanks have also been employed on copper-brass radiator cores. It is largely due to cost-cutting.

These radiators are crimped to squeeze an o-ring on the header. In time, this o-ring loses its elasticity (think thermal cycling), and causes leaks.

If your radiator tank cracks/leaks due to excess pressure due to overheating your cylinder head is likely going to need a top overhaul already.

Relieving pressure while leaking coolant does nothing to alleviate temperature spikes within the engine. What do you use to transfer the heat from the engine to your radiator without coolant? Prayer is far less efficient than air as a fluid.

Now, if you're going to ask why it isn't advisable to replace an aluminum radiator's plastic (actually fiberglass reinforced polyethelyne) tank with a brass tank, it is all about chemistry. Aluminum is higher in the activity chain than Copper, which constitutes roughly 65% of that brass tank. The other 35% is Zinc. Both still lower in the activity chain than Aluminum.

Now if you put these materials in an electrolyte solution, like say water, you will no doubt end up having aluminum as the sacrificial anode.

What this means is your aluminum core is going to corrode and clog itself.

Shops that advocate selling you brass tanks, are really just delaying the inevitable at your expense. It isn't the first time science was trumped by vested interest after all. Dest, you may want to update that knowledge base of yours before liabilities stack up.

Overhauling your radiator really doesn't do much but expose you to more risk given the "sundot" method employed. That doesn't clean the oxides that form and actually exposes it to the risk of damage due to abrasion of the tube walls.

If your radiator gives up the ghost -replace it. It is still cheaper than a top overhaul or a new engine.

[EVO-V]

From dest:

Marami nagsasabi ganyan, di raw advisable. pero tanungin niyo sila kung saan libro nila nabasa?

dest, I hope you don't mind but I find this greatly disturbing.

Seeing as your fortunes are attached to your sales feigning ignorance and spreading doubtful information about basic metallurgy, it might be best to correct your misconceptions and at the very least inform your customers of what they should expect from your "services".

It isn't an excuse that you couldn't find a book on galvanic corrosion, or that the common madla can't yank it out from their book collections for your benefit.

I'm alright with marketing and sales talk, even in forums like these where people are seeking objective information and commercial entities reply to them; as long as they are factual and rendered in light of providing sincere service.

[nelany]

Mas madali i mainatain yung brass radiator. If may leak dali i weld and dali rin mag pa overhaul.

[EVO-V]

Mas madali i mainatain yung brass radiator. If may leak dali i weld and dali rin mag pa overhaul.

True. Brass is more corrosion resistant than aluminum and easier to repair.

But be very careful with these "overhauling" services. What they do is that they flush your radiator, then torch the tanks off, then poke the tubes with "alambre", then reassemble it while lathering it with copious amounts of lead solder.

Several issues here.

First, the tube walls are a mere 0.12 to 0.135 mm thick in typical car radiator tubes. So poking through that can abrade and risk damaging your tube walls possibly causing leaks.

Second, the re-flow of solder can cause capillary flow of melted solder away from the joints they intend to seal, specifically on the header plate of the radiator. Again another potential issue for leaks.

Third, the problem with these corner radiator chop shops is that their materials for soldering are suspect. Given their price points, most of them use recycled material or scrap discarded from primary manufacturing processes. What this in turn does is introduce a lot of impurities into the solder leaving cavities that can be potential causes for leaks.

Fourth, the flux these shops also use, given their cost models, is likely zinc chloride. This is highly corrosive and it must be vigorously cleaned off areas where it was applied to otherwise it will result in oxidation and cavitation on the joint and metal surface. Yes it will lead to leaks.

If you are conscious as well of the environmental impact lead poses, you'd be thinking twice what the true cost of cheap is.

[dest]

Kapag palagi brand new radiator ang bibilhin ng mga car owner, talagang masasayang lang pera nila. Magbigay na lang ako ng isang example. Sa shop namin nagbebenta rin kami brand new, kung tutuusin mas malaki pa kikitain namin kung ioffer ko bumili na lang sila ng brand new, pero advise ko sa kanila. mas OK pang gawin yong radiator nila dahil OEM yon. linisin lang tubo, palitan lang ang top cover. babalik yong dating performance ng radiator tatagal din ng ilang taon, daig pa ang nabibiling replacement brand new, dahil mas kunti lang ang taon itatagal. Kung OEM naman, kung may mabilhan ha. halos 2 to 4x pa ang presyo sa nabibiling china made.


Isa rin ako chief mech dito sa isang oilfield company pinagtatrabahuhan ko ngayon, dito sa middle east, Mas grabe init dito, maraming sasakyan inaasikaso namin, Mayroon ng 12 years na kaming truck, Lahat ng radiator nila, pina ooverhaul ko lang sa labas, hangang ngayon di pa ako nagpapalit ng brand new radiator. Kung sinabi ko sa company palitan na lang lahat ng radiator. baka wala sa oras tanggal na agad ako sa trabaho.

Depende sa mga gumagawa, May mga hindi expert sa ganitong trabaho. Hindi basta basta hinang hinang lang. Marami na kaming nagawa sa shop namin. Hindi buwan ang binibilang kundi ilang taon bago bumalik sa shop namin. .

Tandaan lagi may Pros and Cons

[EVO-V]

Truck radiators are different. Tube wall thicknesses range from 0.15mm to 0.23mm and fin pitches range from 8FPI to 12 FPI max. Some trucks employ tanks that are bolted on as well. The removes the need to solder/weld tanks.

Yung sa disyerto tuyo ang hangin at alikabok lang ang kalaban niyo as long as you use the correct coolant in the engine madaling linisin iyan.

Those should last 15 years at least by design if properly maintained.

OEM sub-systems are designed for reliability. If you have less faith in the brand new units you sell then you really aren't working your supply chain properly. A replacement radiator made to spec should last as long as your original unit.

Typically given our environment replacement cycles come in at 10 years. Paying for that tank replacement, supposing you intend to keep your car longer, is a poor investment in reliability.

There is a proper way of cleaning your radiator and diagnosing it for predictive failure. But if and when the radiator is due for replacement find a good one and bank on it.

You can't mix metals wantonly and expect it to be trouble free. Pros and cons can't be relegated to anecdotal evidence.