White Smoke, Overheating and Loosing Oil

[optiplex]

Hi peeps!

I'm new here and I'm hoping that you guys can help me about my car problem. Here's the situation:

I have a 7G (mitsubishi), Lately it was emitting WHITE SMOKE (even on idle), loosing Oil and the temp would rise sa traffic. I checked the radiator and the reservoir and found out na may oil sa loob..

My questions are:

1. May connection ba ung White Smoke - Loosing Oil - Rising Temp?
2. What does white smoke mean?
3. Kailangan ba ng Top OH, if yes how much kaya yung magagastos?

Thanks for those who will reply!

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Optiplex

[buraot]

bro, base lang sa mga nabasa ko na...


white smoke: cylinder head gasket mo, may singaw..pumapasok ang tubig sa makina..(tama ba ako?)
overheating: obviously, pag may singaw ang head gasket, mauubos ang tubig mo so kukulangin talaga ang tubig sa radiator which causes the temp gauge para tumaas...
loosing oil: baka valve seals or piston ring...


kung makakaya ng top OH, pwede...mas makakatipid ka...pero wait pa natin mga gurus dyan...

top OH: labor siguro mga 2.5-3k..except mga gaskets and seals...

[optiplex]

bro, base lang sa mga nabasa ko na...


white smoke: cylinder head gasket mo, may singaw..pumapasok ang tubig sa makina..(tama ba ako?)
overheating: obviously, pag may singaw ang head gasket, mauubos ang tubig mo so kukulangin talaga ang tubig sa radiator which causes the temp gauge para tumaas...
loosing oil: baka valve seals or piston ring...


kung makakaya ng top OH, pwede...mas makakatipid ka...pero wait pa natin mga gurus dyan...

top OH: labor siguro mga 2.5-3k..except mga gaskets and seals...

Thanks sa reply!

Suspect ko sa nawawalang oil is that napupunta sa radiator.. Pag check ko ng radiator, maraming oil yung cover...

Can Top OH do the trick?

[blink21me]

98% of the times it's the headgasket... oil goes to the radiator, then to the reservoir... How many miles/km's on your car? Do you beat on your car a lot? Make sure to mainatain your Mistu properly and timely, and always keep an eye on such... You have probably overheated a few times before, which is the most common reason of headgasket issues... GL

Joven

[optiplex]

98% of the times it's the headgasket... oil goes to the radiator, then to the reservoir... How many miles/km's on your car? Do you beat on your car a lot? Make sure to mainatain your Mistu properly and timely, and always keep an eye on such... You have probably overheated a few times before, which is the most common reason of headgasket issues... GL

Joven

100K plus mileage. Nag overheat na ako nun and kakapalit nung headgasket mga 3 mos ago... usually tumataas ang temp pag traffic and may oil yung radiator cover..

[buraot]

100K plus mileage. Nag overheat na ako nun and kakapalit nung headgasket mga 3 mos ago... usually tumataas ang temp pag traffic and may oil yung radiator cover..

nag overheat ka na pala...at napalitan na ang head gasket...? dapat ndi na sisingaw yan..have you checked your cylinder head? baka nag-warped at dapat ire-surface?

[optiplex]

nag overheat ka na pala...at napalitan na ang head gasket...? dapat ndi na sisingaw yan..have you checked your cylinder head? baka nag-warped at dapat ire-surface?

one more thing that i noticed, parang steam ung lumalabas sa exhaust.. pag nagtapat ako ng metal sa exhaust nag m moist yung metal so i guess steam yung lumalabas... top OH ba kailangan?

[zonda]

siguro ni resurface naman ng mekaniko mo yung head bago nya binalik. check mo head mo kung may cracks.

[reniram]

Bro, tingin ko kailangan mo eh gen OH na. Baka pati yung mga pistons ay may tama na rin due to overheating before.

Mas safe ay patingnan mo na agad at baka lumala pa.

[yebo]

at the very minimum, head gasket replacement with machining of cylinder head. check also the engine block, may also need refacing. if the block needs machining then no other choice but to do a complete overhaul (all the internals will be removed during machining so better to do an overhaul).

the worst, warped or cracked cylinder head. better to buy a surplus long block engine than to buy a surplus cylinder head that you may have to machine later. price difference is also minimal.

[buraot]

pa-compression test mo na din...nga pala, baka makuha sa dukot kung sira ang piston/ring...para mas makatipid ka...but if you have the bucks, then go for General OH...


pero check muna ung cylinder head/gasket...

[optiplex]

Naku! gastos na naman pala ito... San head gasket lang ang problem nito.. nung pinalitan yung head gasket malamang hindi na resurface.. Ung steam pala is hindi continuos, minsan meron minsan naman wala. and walang pinagbago sa performance.. May idea po ba kayo kung magkano ang Top OH and Complete OH?

Salamat po ulit!

[JohnM]

I spent around 11k for top OH on my 1.6 lancer

OEM parts
head gasket
valve cover gasket
valve seals
cam/crank oil seals
spark plug grommet

replacement parts
water pump
intake manifold gasket

[buraot]

Naku! gastos na naman pala ito... San head gasket lang ang problem nito.. nung pinalitan yung head gasket malamang hindi na resurface.. Ung steam pala is hindi continuos, minsan meron minsan naman wala. and walang pinagbago sa performance.. May idea po ba kayo kung magkano ang Top OH and Complete OH?

Salamat po ulit!

it's around 10-15k depende sa mga papalitan...hehehe...di bale, may 13th month ka naman, eh..

[optiplex]

I spent around 11k for top OH on my 1.6 lancer

OEM parts
head gasket
valve cover gasket
valve seals
cam/crank oil seals
spark plug grommet

replacement parts
water pump
intake manifold gasket

kasama na labor?

[simpleng tao]

Kung reputable ang shop na pinag dalhan mo ng repair baka naman ma bigyan ka ng discount for the same repair kasi recall. Anyways, known sa mitsu ang cylinder head problems. Like the other responses, baka nga may crack na ang head mo. Some mitsu head have jet valves which usually develops hair line cracks. Kung meron crack malabong marepair kasi extesive ang process. One of the reply have a good suggestion buy long block. Pero if short block is avail na mas reasonable ang price pwede na yon kasi if your not familiar with the terminology long block ay kasama intake at exhaust manifold at other accessories and short block wala.

Good luck.

[buraot]

baka mapakiusapan mo ung dating gumawa..parang back job na lang ang gagawin..? 'tsaka suki naman na kamo, eh..hahaha...goodluck bro...

[optiplex]

Update:

Mukhang head gasket nga ang problem nung car, ginamit namin car papunta sa bulacan without encountering any problems. The next day, ginamit ulit namin for about 15 mins yung car, then i checked ung dip stick, and found out na parang lighter na yung color nung oil and dun sa cover may puti na rin - nag halo na yung oil at water. Does this confirmed na ung white smoke is really caused by the faulty head gasket? necessary ba na ma-machine (reface) shop yung head?

Thanks!

[buraot]

Update:

Mukhang head gasket nga ang problem nung car, ginamit namin car papunta sa bulacan without encountering any problems. The next day, ginamit ulit namin for about 15 mins yung car, then i checked ung dip stick, and found out na parang lighter na yung color nung oil and dun sa cover may puti na rin - nag halo na yung oil at water. Does this confirmed na ung white smoke is really caused by the faulty head gasket? necessary ba na ma-machine (reface) shop yung head?

Thanks!

SOP po na ipa-check ung head for warp/leak..kung di naman po warp ang head, at walang leak, gasket lang po talaga ang papalitan at di na kailangan i-machine shop..

[speedyfix]

yes, you will need to have the head checked for warpage.