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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    The Jetta 2.0L TDI DSG has a bigger engine and it is the same 2.0L TDI engine used across the VW-Audi product line. It's more like you're buying a cheaper Audi with the engine and features. Please take note that the initial batch of Jetta 1.6L TDI DSG (Trendline at 850k and Highline at 950k) models were sold only to employees of Ayala-owned corporations as part of their employee corporate discount program. There are Jetta 1.6L TDI MT models being sold to the public at 850k and these are being targeted for fleet car operations (taxi, corporate car, etc.)
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    thanks, i will visit a dealership to see one physically. The 1.6TDI is rated at 105 hp and 250 nm torque right? Any feedback on how it drives? Does it feel underpowered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mousemouse View Post
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    thanks, i will visit a dealership to see one physically. The 1.6TDI is rated at 105 hp and 250 nm torque right? Any feedback on how it drives? Does it feel underpowered?
    Just confirmed with VW BGC. The Jetta 1.6L TDI MT is available for all and for sale at 850k. It shares the same engine as the Jetta 1.6L TDI DSG. Limited stocks only, only white color remaining (black color has been sold out). For inquiries, please call Humprey Silang (09175230006). Units can be seen at VW BGC, free test drive offered.

    It does not feel underpowerered. There's enough torque at low rpms (below 2k) and it can accelerate much like the other compacts on the market. We got it to speed at around 160 kmh and the chassis feels very stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    The Jetta 2.0L TDI DSG has a bigger engine and it is the same 2.0L TDI engine used across the VW-Audi product line. It's more like you're buying a cheaper Audi with the engine and features. Please take note that the initial batch of Jetta 1.6L TDI DSG (Trendline at 850k and Highline at 950k) models were sold only to employees of Ayala-owned corporations as part of their employee corporate discount program. There are Jetta 1.6L TDI MT models being sold to the public at 850k and these are being targeted for fleet car operations (taxi, corporate car, etc.)
    Any updates regarding the Polo? Now that they have Jettas that cost the same.

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    Thats a steal . Manual or not.

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    Are the turbos for this model made by Garrett or KKK? Bolt on turbo upgrade kits for Garrett equipped units can up this 1.6 TDI's output to 175 Hp, 370 Nm smoke free. Probably cost under 100K more. Would make a neat little pocket rocket.

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    All fuels in the country are already Euro 4. It's not legal to sell Euro 2.

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    All fuels in the country are already Euro 4. Companies are not allowed to sell Euro 2 fuels anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r2 View Post
    Are the turbos for this model made by Garrett or KKK? Bolt on turbo upgrade kits for Garrett equipped units can up this 1.6 TDI's output to 175 Hp, 370 Nm smoke free. Probably cost under 100K more. Would make a neat little pocket rocket.
    Based on most online references, this inline-4 turbo diesel shares similar construction with the bigger 2.0L TDI and are classified under the EA189 engine code which is the target of the investigation due to an emission cheat device. They have KKK turbochargers which is made by Borg Warner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Based on most online references, this inline-4 turbo diesel shares similar construction with the bigger 2.0L TDI and are classified under the EA189 engine code which is the target of the investigation due to an emission cheat device. They have KKK turbochargers which is made by Borg Warner.
    Pity. The Garrett turbo kits along with ECU tuning only go for around Php 100k landed. Would've made the 1.6L the quickest car under Php 1M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r2 View Post
    Pity. The Garrett turbo kits along with ECU tuning only go for around Php 100k landed. Would've made the 1.6L the quickest car under Php 1M.
    Superchips (Bluefin) UK has a stage 1 remap kit for this engine. The gains are 41 hp and 70 Nm. You can check out their site.

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    Wow these VWs are really great value right now.

    But what gives? Has VW finally given up on the premium branding? Or are they closing shop and holding a garage sale?


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    The facelifted golf is coming out. The gti will have 240hp and a 7-speed DSG plus all digital guages. Will get one for sure when they launch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r2 View Post
    Is that with the stock turbo? If it is, that is pretty good.
    Bluefin is an ECU remap kit for a stock setup. They sell different remap kits for various turbo cars. The Stage 1 remap kit for the Fiesta 1.0L Ecoboost can increase its output to 154hp/247Nm. You need to confirm first the VIN number of the car with their customer service to get the right remap kit for your car.


    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Not bad!

    The 1.4T is one of the sportier compacts on the market. Sharp handling like the Mazda or Focus, but a bit nimbler than the former and grippier than the latter.

    Great little car.
    When I test drove the Golf 1.4T last May, I was really impressed with its driving but disappointed with its SRP of 1.59M. It feels more powerful than its specs indicate and it offers a lot of grip. At its discounted price now, it is one great option compared to a Civic Turbo, Focus Ecoboost, or Mazda3 Skyactiv 2.0L.

    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Wow these VWs are really great value right now.

    But what gives? Has VW finally given up on the premium branding? Or are they closing shop and holding a garage sale?


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    Ayala usually put on sale cars that are slow moving on their inventory and when a new model is expected to be released. They do that with the Honda Accord. They don't announce it, mostly a delaer sale of sorts. When the 9th gen Accord came out, the 8th gen Accord were even offered at 450k discount. The same discounts were offered to the previous gen Pilot and Odyssey.

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    nice tip bro, I hope they do it with the outgoing crv

    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Ayala usually put on sale cars that are slow moving on their inventory and when a new model is expected to be released. They do that with the Honda Accord. They don't announce it, mostly a delaer sale of sorts. When the 9th gen Accord came out, the 8th gen Accord were even offered at 450k discount. The same discounts were offered to the previous gen Pilot and Odyssey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    When I test drove the Golf 1.4T last May, I was really impressed with its driving but disappointed with its SRP of 1.59M. It feels more powerful than its specs indicate and it offers a lot of grip. At its discounted price now, it is one great option compared to a Civic Turbo, Focus Ecoboost, or Mazda3 Skyactiv 2.0L.
    Yup.

    IMHO, interesting contrasts in the way the four drive. The Civic has decent handling, but it's more comfort-tuned than the other three. The Mazda is the liveliest. If you want "classic" hot hatch handling, the Mazda3 hatch is the ticket. Mobile (but safe) rear end, and the new torque vectoring helps pull the nose in line.

    The Focus feels a lot like the Mazda, but tuned stiffer. The end result is largely the same, though, because the Focus has a bit less grip and more weight.

    The Golf, it feels powerful, yes, but I'd say not Civic-Focus league, and the Mazda might give it a run for its money... but it's pert, light and planted.

    I would love to do a group test on the Tanayburgring of these four.

    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Ayala usually put on sale cars that are slow moving on their inventory and when a new model is expected to be released. They do that with the Honda Accord. They don't announce it, mostly a delaer sale of sorts. When the 9th gen Accord came out, the 8th gen Accord were even offered at 450k discount. The same discounts were offered to the previous gen Pilot and Odyssey.
    We got our CR-V before with big discounts.

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    The VW push now is helping to move slow inventory, and since Ayala is doing it as benefits or car plans for their people, it's a win-win situation for them.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    I would love to do a group test on the Tanayburgring of these four.
    Can my lowly slow 1.6 econobox join in? [emoji12]


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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Can my lowly slow 1.6 econobox join in? [emoji12]


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    Sure!

    Camera car ka na!

    You don't know excitement until you go through a corner at a good clip with one hand on the wheel and the other holding a photographer by his belt as he leans out the window.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    I would love to do a group test on the Tanayburgring of these four.
    Puwede rin ba salimpusa yung small 1.0L engine? Kahit tail element lang for the little engine that could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Puwede rin ba salimpusa yung small 1.0L engine? Kahit tail element lang for the little engine that could.
    In the mountains, light weight and good grip can keep you in the hunt.

    On our blast through Negros for Kia, our lead car was a Picanto. The crossovers were having a hard time keeping up.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Yup.

    IMHO, interesting contrasts in the way the four drive. The Civic has decent handling, but it's more comfort-tuned than the other three. The Mazda is the liveliest. If you want "classic" hot hatch handling, the Mazda3 hatch is the ticket. Mobile (but safe) rear end, and the new torque vectoring helps pull the nose in line.

    The Focus feels a lot like the Mazda, but tuned stiffer. The end result is largely the same, though, because the Focus has a bit less grip and more weight.

    The Golf, it feels powerful, yes, but I'd say not Civic-Focus league, and the Mazda might give it a run for its money... but it's pert, light and planted.
    *Niky - Botchi Santos recently wrote an article in TGPH comparing the turbo compacts. Were you part of the team who tested the 3 turbo compacts? Which would you choose among the three?

    http://www.topgear.com.ph/drives/big...ef=home_feed_1

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