VW's lineup for Manila

[Retz]

The new Beetle comes in two variants1.2 TSI M/T and 1.4 TSI for the matic. Price starts at Php1.590M


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[may profeta]

Meron bang may-ari ng New Beetle dito?

[kisshmet]

Panigurado ang taas ng resale value nito, ang taas kasi ng TONGPATS nito

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[erick_214]

Does anyone know if the Tiguan is a real time AWD? Ano ba orientation ng engine nito?

Thanks

[aargh]

VW Polo hatch has just been released

[AG4]

VW Polo hatch has just been released

It's powered by a 105PS 1.6 liter naturally aspirated engine mated to a 6-speed automatic.
It has the same P950K price as the diesel sedan version, but is better equipped.
It still has 15 inch wheels though.

Its closest competitor here would be the Ford Fiesta 1.5 Sport (P868K) and 1.0 EcoBoost Sport+ (P898K).

[Walter]

VW Golf non-GTI is coming.

[dr. d]

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ang mahal ng VW na...!!
truly, the rich peoples' car..
(vis a vis, japanese cars)
kuripot kasi ako..

btw, what VW model did Da Pope use..? He found it too small for his frame.. is he a big person?

[jut703]

A year after VW's launch in the country, how are they doing?

I'm particularly interested to know how their strategy to implement a price premium over similar Asian competitors has worked for their PnL.

Their cars are about 10-20% more expensive than equivalent Asian cars, or roughly about 100-300k, which means they must have good unit margins (unless import expenses are too high). Unfortunately, they haven't seem to have gained much traction in terms of sales. From what I've been seeing, only the Tiguan is making any presence on our roads, but even that car pales in comparison to the rest of the competition.

Bottomline - what does the company want to achieve and are they getting there? Also, are they even making money?

[monmendoza]

I don't know who developed their pricing strategy but certainly it is not working. I don't think the premium is just 10% I think it is more like 40% on most car models. I am predicting volkswagen to close shop in the Philippines in a few years time if they continue with the strategy. Volkswagen was also in the Philippines with an official distributor in the 1990s but they left many of their customers hang & dry when they left due to poor sales.

A year after VW's launch in the country, how are they doing?
I'm particularly interested to know how their strategy to implement a price premium over similar Asian competitors has worked for their PnL.

Their cars are about 10-20% more expensive than equivalent Asian cars, or roughly about 100-300k, which means they must have good unit margins (unless import expenses are too high). Unfortunately, they haven't seem to have gained much traction in terms of sales. From what I've been seeing, only the Tiguan is making any presence on our roads, but even that car pales in comparison to the rest of the competition.
Bottomline - what does the company want to achieve and are they getting there? Also, are they even making money?

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I don't know who developed their pricing strategy but certainly it is not working. I don't think the premium is just 10% I think it is more like 40% on most car models. I am predicting volkswagen to close shop in the Philippines in a few years time if they continue with the strategy. Volkswagen was also in the Philippines with an official distributor in the 1990s but they left many of their customers hang & dry when they left due to poor sales.

A year after VW's launch in the country, how are they doing?
I'm particularly interested to know how their strategy to implement a price premium over similar Asian competitors has worked for their PnL.

Their cars are about 10-20% more expensive than equivalent Asian cars, or roughly about 100-300k, which means they must have good unit margins (unless import expenses are too high). Unfortunately, they haven't seem to have gained much traction in terms of sales. From what I've been seeing, only the Tiguan is making any presence on our roads, but even that car pales in comparison to the rest of the competition.
Bottomline - what does the company want to achieve and are they getting there? Also, are they even making money?

[dct]

I don't know who developed their pricing strategy but certainly it is not working. I don't think the premium is just 10% I think it is more like 40% on most car models. I am predicting volkswagen to close shop in the Philippines in a few years time if they continue with the strategy. Volkswagen was also in the Philippines with an official distributor in the 1990s but they left many of their customers hang & dry when they left due to poor sales.



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I don't know who developed their pricing strategy but certainly it is not working. I don't think the premium is just 10% I think it is more like 40% on most car models. I am predicting volkswagen to close shop in the Philippines in a few years time if they continue with the strategy. Volkswagen was also in the Philippines with an official distributor in the 1990s but they left many of their customers hang & dry when they left due to poor sales.

Totoo to. Pero sa tingin ko mas mauuna tumiklop ang peugeot kaysa dito sa volks. With the same reason

[Drivesafe]

Totoo to. Pero sa tingin ko mas mauuna tumiklop ang peugeot kaysa dito sa volks. With the same reason

I predict both brands are here to stay. Yung mga Peugeot madalas ko na din makita sa Metro Manila these days. Both VW and Peugeot have a specific market here, not necessarily those who only look at the "sulit" factor. Individual taste comes to play.

Panlaban ng euro cars na ito ay safety. For example, mas madalas magtipid sa airbags ang Asian brands. Minsan inuuna pa ang mga kung anu-anong gimmick features kesa curtain airbags, whats up with that? Same goes for other nowadays-basic safety features like stability/traction control. Yung ibang Asian cars puro ABS lang alam ispelingin kapag hindi yung top spec ang bilhin mo.

And im looking forward to the VW Passat to be launched later this year!

[jut703]

I don't know who developed their pricing strategy but certainly it is not working. I don't think the premium is just 10% I think it is more like 40% on most car models.

Polo 1.6 - 950k
Vios 1.5G - 880k
Difference - 8%

Jetta 2.0 TDI - 1.295M
Altis 2.0V - 1.2M
Difference - 8%

Tiguan 2.0 - 2.109M
RAV4 V 4WD - 1.983M
Difference - 6%

[dos2]

Polo 1.6 - 950k
Vios 1.5G - 880k
Difference - 8%

Jetta 2.0 TDI - 1.295M
Altis 2.0V - 1.2M
Difference - 8%

Tiguan 2.0 - 2.109M
RAV4 V 4WD - 1.983M
Difference - 6%

Aside from the fact that it's badge is not a T, M, or H, other factors that affect low sales are:
1. For a common pinoy, the VW design is too simple. Di kasi gwapo. Wifey prefers the look of the vios vs a friends Jetta although she is very envious of the Jetta's fuel efficiency.
2. Lack of automatic transmission for some models
3. Very few dealerships
4. European - expensive and unavailable parts. Even if this is not true, the perception alone of our market prevents one from inquiring with a Volks dealer. This is made worse by reason # 3.

[Walter]

Price will become interesting when most of the free trade agreements with China, Korea and Japan kicks in by 2018. VAG will then be able to import from China with zero tariff. The Koreans will become even more competitive.

[kevinworld]

I own a volkswagen jetta. My sister has her Corolla. She knocked my car door. Then knocked her car. Manipis talaga ang Japanese cars. My 6 airbags vs her 2 airbags. The fuel sipping Diesel engine vs the gasoline gargling vvti. Full independent suspension vs torsion beam of the Corolla.

It is still our choice to choose from. I've chosen safety&practicality vs looks.

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I own a volkswagen jetta. My sister has her Corolla. She knocked my car door. Then knocked her car. Manipis talaga ang Japanese cars. My 6 airbags vs her 2 airbags. The fuel sipping Diesel engine vs the gasoline gargling vvti. Full independent suspension vs torsion beam of the Corolla.

It is still our choice to choose from. I've chosen safety&practicality vs looks.

[jut703]

1.3M for a Jetta? No thanks. I drove it, and it's a car that drives much better than it looks, but still not worth its price.

Feature set is only as good as a mid-range compact. Engine is torquey but not fast - a manual 1.6 compact will easily match it. Of course, when fully laden, the performance dip is lower because it's a diesel.

And no, Toyota's 1.6 isn't a guzzler. 10 km/L city driving is easy with an MT. And with a 400k price difference, it'll take over 2 decades to recoup the price difference even with the more efficient diesel.

The Japanese may use thinner sheet metal, but at the end of the day, the Euro NCAP scores are more definitive than knocking on the car's body. And the Corolla scores 5 stars on that, just like the Jetta.

Interior build quality is nowhere in the same league as other German sedans (BMW, Merc, Audi). My brother even said that the interior could easily be mistaken for a Kia. My girlfriend who knows nothing about cars said that it doesn't exude any aura of exclusivity or high quality at all. Only car guys ever see the Volks as a tier higher than the usual Japs, but objectively the only VW's that feel solid for me are the GTi, Tiguan, and Touareg. Oh, and the Jetta isn't even made in Germany - our local units are from Mexico.

I'd consider it if it were priced at around 1M for the 2.0 MT diesel with the current specs, but 1.3M is just silly. The Mz3 2.0R outclasses it in every aspect and still manages to cost 100k less.

[rosham@0826]

I say Jetta is much better compare to the corollas and the civics. In terms of handling, comfort and fuel efficiency. I have one before it was written off.

[aargh]

I say Jetta is much better compare to the corollas and the civics. In terms of handling, comfort and fuel efficiency. I have one before it was written off.

Hindi ba Golf ang kalevel ng corolla and Civic?

[Drivesafe]

Hindi ba Golf ang kalevel ng corolla and Civic?

Since compact sedan sila, Jetta ang pinakamalapit.

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Hindi ba Golf ang kalevel ng corolla and Civic?

Since compact sedan sila, Jetta ang pinakamalapit.