Owning a VW locally is it economical and practical enough?

[tidus1203]

Asking VW owners Tsikotters. Is its already economical and practical to own a VW here in the Philippines?

I mean vs your typical mainstream brands like Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi how does it stack up?

Maintenance costs? How much is your typical PMS. Is it easy enough to do maintenance that its also feasible to have PMS outside the dealership if ever after warranty?

Parts availability?

Reliability?

Thanks!

[moipogi]

Based on fuel economy, the TDI diesels are very frugal.

Based on the 15k km or once a year service interval, the PMS cost should be roughly the same as the normal Jap car na 5k km / 2x a year.

Parts I have not encountered yet, but they should be the same if the model you have is the one which sold the most. Take note one-off japanese cars also have a parts availability problem.

Reliability, well VW cars are generally the Toyotas of Germany so they should match the reliability of the Japs. In other countries where VW was always present, similar yung reliability.

Dito lang sa atin sanay tayo sa Toyota/Honda/Mitsu/Nissan. So oldtimers will not recommend a new brand here.


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[Walter]

Reliability, well VW cars are generally the Toyotas of Germany so they should match the reliability of the Japs. In other countries where VW was always present, similar yung reliability.

They are like the Toyotas of Europe in the sense that there are a lot of them there ... not necessarily as reliable as Toyotas ...

[vinj]

Asking VW owners Tsikotters. Is its already economical and practical to own a VW here in the Philippines?

I mean vs your typical mainstream brands like Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi how does it stack up?

Maintenance costs? How much is your typical PMS. Is it easy enough to do maintenance that its also feasible to have PMS outside the dealership if ever after warranty?

Parts availability?

Reliability?

Thanks!

I'm on the same boat as you. My heart goes for a golf GTS but the typical Pinoy practical side makes me consider a Fort or MS more.

In terms of reliability i believe it is at par with the Japs and the real concern is parts availability outside of the CASA and of course, resale. But with a conglo like Ayala behind it, the brand has a fighting chance for the long run.

Based on my discussions with other car distributors before, VW has had several suitors to bring it back to the PI in the past but VW turned them down because they wanted someone who could do the volume they desire and back it up for a real challenge in the market.

[Vodka]

dieselgate has shown that VW is dishonest

[tidus1203]

dieselgate has shown that VW is dishonest

Yeah maybe so pero if dieselgate happened here its not gonna be too much a big deal since our emission standards are just Euro 4 anyway hehehehehe.... So yeah more HP pls even if my diesel pollutes hahahaha

[Vodka]

Yeah maybe so pero if dieselgate happened here its not gonna be too much a big deal since our emission standards are just Euro 4 anyway hehehehehe.... So yeah more HP pls even if my diesel pollutes hahahaha

pinoys are being lied too all the time most of us have become desensitized

but me personally i want my carmaker to behave a lot more ethically. dieselgate means NO SALE

[Egan101]

How sure are we that other manufacturers don't cheat in some other ways? Too bad, VW was caught in the US emissions test.

Does it make their cars less capable? I bet VW TDI cars are much cleaner in emissions compared to those relic Mitsu and Isuzu engines being used in some vehicles here.

The good thing about VW is that it offers local buyers Euro quality for a lot less. How many of us can afford to own Audi or BMW or Merc vehicles? Only a few I guess. Spending something like 1M+ for a Jetta/Golf TDI is a bargain of sorts when a mechanically similar (same platform, same engine, same tranny) Audi A3 TDI sells for almost 3x the price.

We have a 2016 Jetta TDI 1.6L DSG and it's much better than a Altis or Civic. Its built and interior feels more premium compared to the more expensive Civic RS, which we also have. By the way, annual PMS cost for both cars are about the same but the Jetta is much, much frugal on fuel.

[mda]

pinoys are being lied too all the time most of us have become desensitized

but me personally i want my carmaker to behave a lot more ethically. dieselgate means NO SALE

Having read about your Ecosport purchase... How about having Ford covering up all its problems as well? Not only locally, but in its own home turf, with all the DCT issues, Ranger Turbo issues, the Explorer carbon monoxide problems (which meron din dito), etc etc etc

Not very ethical...

Most (if not all) manufacturers have skeletons in their closet...

[Walter]

dieselgate has shown that VW is dishonest

... and the other manufacturers are honest? ... Mercedes Benz, BMW and the others did the same thing ... VW was just targeted because they were the largest automotive company in 2016 ...

[niky]

... and the other manufacturers are honest? ... Mercedes Benz, BMW and the others did the same thing ... VW was just targeted because they were the largest automotive company in 2016 ...

Yup.

VW in America done did a horrible thing.

But let's not forget:

Toyota in America denied issues with SUA (not the theoretical electronic gremlin ones, but the very real floormat issues) until it blew up in their face.

GM in America had that ignition barrel issue that turned deadly. Deadma... until after the bankruptcy, when they could not be sued for pre-bankruptcy issues.

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While it was a terrible thing, I'm not particularly bothered about Dieselgate.

For one, it doesn't affect local cars, since our VWs aren't tuned to US standards, anyway... so whatever pollution they make, they'd make that whether or not Dieselgate happened.

For another, it doesn't say ANYTHING about reliability or safety.

[arnoldc]

What I can say is owning Japanese cars aren't as cheap, and let me put that into perspective. Casa maintained lahat brand new na naging at kasalukuyang cars ko. Honda (sakit sa ulo, mahal din, regardless of the dealership Pasig, Magallanes, and another one I can't remember), my two Subaru cars are serviced MI only and I follow the recommendations and paid the price. I have received excellent service from MI all these years.

Yung Toyota (first car) was purchased second hand so hindi naka tikim ng casa yun, likewise the Nissan Sentra na laging sira ang suspension

Not my car, but the Mazda 3 Executive ng officemate ko pabalik-balik ng casa, laki nagastos suspension and rattle issues

I've spent zero (0) for my Peugeot 308 now about to turn two years old in 2018.

I don't have any expections yet on the Golf GTS, wala pa yung kotse eh.

[moipogi]

In terms of reliability, at a certain point, this is no longer an issue as most manufacturers will generally put out a certain reliability level that will be acceptable to most users.

I’ve owned a Chevy, Suzuki, Toyota, Opel, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Hyundai and now a VW. Under reasonable use and maintenance, I’ve found them to be reliable and none of them have broken down and left me stranded.

Some have been reliable as expected (big body corolla and Montero), the Elantra is absolutely trouble free despite the negative feelings still on Korean cars. The Subaru though surprisingly had minor quality niggles (faulty brake position indicator, failed auto door lock). The Chevy Cruze and Suzuki APV ownership was likewise uneventful.

Even dun sa Opel, kahit orphaned na siya, I still managed to find parts such as engine mounts, headlights, injectors easily and fitted by my suki Rapide shop. One of the reasons i got a VW is I miss the feel of a Euro car in the Opel Astra. Very solid construction and it could cruise at 100+ quite comfortably.

So give the VW brand time to mature and the Ayalas to expand the network.


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[EQAddict]

Im set on the facelifted Golf Gti next year with the power module. Gonna have a lot of fun with it. Sana lang they brought the R here. AwD is perfect for our crappy road surface.

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[c_cube]

No problemo for our 15 month old Jetta 1.6 DCT, running around 20k.

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[Egan101]

No problemo for our 15 month old Jetta 1.6 DCT, running around 20k.

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Halos same time pala yung Jetta natin, bro. Ano kulay nung sa iyo?

[c_cube]

Halos same time pala yung Jetta natin, bro. Ano kulay nung sa iyo?

White. Got the unit offered to ayala employees only. Yun sinabi ng pinsan ko who works for VW QA, hindi na kami nag dalawang isip. Sobrang sulit for 850k

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[Egan101]

White. Got the unit offered to ayala employees only. Yun sinabi ng pinsan ko who works for VW QA, hindi na kami nag dalawang isip. Sobrang sulit for 850k

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Same with us, thru the Ayala corporate car promo. Ours is black with the 17" rims and leather seats (950k). Pansin ko though that the 1.6L TDI does not sound (during idle) as refined as the 2.0L TDI model.

[c_cube]

Same with us, thru the Ayala corporate car promo. Ours is black with the 17" rims and leather seats (950k). Pansin ko though that the 1.6L TDI does not sound (during idle) as refined as the 2.0L TDI model.

Didn't hear it side by side but when i got to try the 2.0, ang layo nito sa 1.6 when it comes to engine response. Sarap i-drive ng 2.0 TDI

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[JJB]

Kaya pala mabagal na magreply mga vw sales agents. Wala na silang units.
Yung isang agent nga from bgc, i was askig if may ready supply ng caddy, after 7 hours nagreply thru text and the following day pa tumawag.
So i just bought another brand na lang since super alaga sa agent and branch owner. Wala pang waiting time sa unit.


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