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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    IMHO, i believe that the tsikot moderators are doing a great job.

    but i do have a comment. how about locking out an offensive poster or individual post instead of the thread? should the thread suffer due to the irresponsibility of the posters?

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    #2
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez
    IMHO, i believe that the tsikot moderators are doing a great job.



    but i do have a comment. how about locking out an offensive poster or individual post instead of the thread? should the thread suffer due to the irresponsibility of the posters?
    agree ako dito .pero dapat bigyan din muna ng warning,
    baka may mga kapatid tayo sa dito tsikot na nakakalimot ng mga rules

  3. #3
    how about locking out an offensive poster or individual post instead of the thread?
    I believe the mods will serve sanctions when necessary, but ofcourse may warning muna. Di ko lang alam kung ilang warning.

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    #4
    this is a free country, where there is freedom of speech, however we should always keep in mind that this freedom entails subjective and objective point of views of various people, thereby respect must be of prime concern, honor each of our opinion and we should not contradict nor negate them, clarify things that needs to be understood precisely and if stated correctlygive due regards or consideration=)

  5. #5
    yes we have freedom of speech, but we should also have responsibility with our freedom di pwede yung bara bara. As mentioned in the earlier posts this is a privately owned forum and we are guests, we should follow house rules and observe proper etiquette and delicadeza.

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    #6
    To my mind, having these discussions however heated these may be are healthy as long as it does not encroach and degrade one's dignity. Staying within the bounds and freely expressing one's opinion (pros or cons) to a given subject is just fair and this leaves the reader the benefit of gaining knowledge learned from it. Of course the Mods are there to prevent anybody from going out of bounds. Kudos to the Moderators.

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    #7
    Contrary to what many people are insisting, there were no personal attacks
    that took place in that Inday in Uniform thread. People were simply speaking
    their minds out. It just so happens that some people find their views hurtful
    simply because they also have uniformed maids in the family, so they felt
    that they were being attacked personally.

    Granting that there were flamers, they said they will not post anymore.
    So i was surprised why the moderator still needs to close it if the issue is
    about flaming and the flamers have already agreed to stop posting. Why not
    give a chance to others to continue discussing the topic?

    If the issue was about redundant discussions getting nowhere, ganun din
    naman dun sa mga religion threads. I never asked the moderator to close
    the religion threads. I simply ignore it and read other more interesting threads
    if i find the posts to be dragging nowhere.

    However, dun sa Inday thread, some people are so annoyed by the posts
    they actually spent their precious time reading the posts just to annoy
    themselves, then in the end they will ask the mods to close the thread
    because they can't stand reading them anymore. I mean, why not simply
    read other threads that interest you. Right? Why crash into a thread you
    don't like and ask it to be closed?

    Anyway, it's water under the bridge. It just makes you think whether Tsikot
    is really ready for some serious debates on sensitive "personal" issues, or are
    people here just interested in discussing "feel good" topics and are too
    protective of each other's (especially the mod's) feelings.

    I appreciate Boybi for taking the time to explain his side as an amo requiring
    his yaya to be in uniform. Atleast, we get enlightened about "the other
    side of the coin". I have other dimensional views about why Filipinos have
    this kind of mentality on maids, but i can't discuss it anymore since the
    thread was killed unceremoniously. And i have lost interest on it already also.

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    #8
    i'm also confused about what constitutes a personal attack or offensive behavior on this forum. in my perception, comments like "you are being judgemental" or "i am offended by what you said" are normal in heated yet civil debate. comments like "you are a moron" or "P.I. mo" or "sana mamatay ka na" are imo what cross the line into abuse and personal attacks.

    again imo, all i saw were heated disagreements on both sides.

    i'm not bringing this up to question anybody's interpretation of offensive behavior - i am just seeking enlightenment because i participate in these types of threads and would like to understand exactly where the line was drawn. i actually kind of like these threads because they add some spice among all of the "why does my a/c not work" threads

    ALSO, this is not a comment on the moderating of the forum. it is very clear to me from M2's post that he closed the thread because a lot of people asked him to. that's a different story. i'm really asking my fellow members why it would be offensive behavior if someone else strongly disagreed with you. specific examples would be very helpful.

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    #9
    golly kahapon lang itong thread na ito.... popcorn? :D

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    #10
    M54, my guess is if you say the same thing to a coworker and consequently get a memo from HR or get fired, that's offensive.

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    #11
    Quote Originally Posted by the_wildthing
    M54, my guess is if you say the same thing to a coworker and consequently get a memo from HR or get fired, that's offensive.
    i would agree with that definition. i'm just concerned that some folks might consider strong disagreement (even in respectful language) as offensive behavior.

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    #12
    Ok. I didn't really read through the whole thread. But, my view is this:

    I treat everyone in this forum like they're here with me having a tall one. I'm not one to force an issue. If people are adamant about a certain point of view, I let them have it. I'm here to read other people's views, not to engage in debating contests unless it's the "Tastes Great/Less Filling" or "Mary Ann/Ginger" types of threads. Even then, I go back to where I don't force the issue.

    If a thread becomes heated, it's normally time to stand back and take some time off from the pc.

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