Uber Philippines

[sbayhon]

Uber users expect that their ride will be better than a taxi. Kung ang taxi nga, at least Vios, why force a minicar?

For sure cacancellan ka lang niyan.

I got into a wigo ubercar the other day. :P

[Walter]

Kung ako yun icacancel ko. Mirage or Wigo pwede pa basta wag base model ��

There's a cancellation fee of 100.00

[jut703]

There's a cancellation fee of 100.00

Not if you cancel immediately. I've cancelled several times without a fee.

[machinepistol]

Is an Uber car a public utility. You be the judge.

A public utility is a form of enterprise that offers to the public services that they need for their convenience. It is the reason why a license issued to the public utility operator by the relevant government regulatory body is also called a certificate of public convenience and necessity.

It is subject to heavy regulation such as fixing of rates and fares because it is an enterprise that is imbued with public interest. Because their services are needed by the public, public utilities can abuse their market power. And because public utilities tend to be monopolies, they are subject to government regulation.

Normally, power distribution, water distribution, gas distribution and public transportation are monopolies, this is because it is unthinkable for just any Tom, Dick and Harry to lay down water pipes on streets and hang cables overhead. While public distribution is no longer a monopoly in the Philippines due to deregulation, in some countries, it is still a monopoly or at the very least a duopoly. In HK, there are only 2 bus companies. It is easier to regulate that way (fixing of fares, ensuring that bus units are in tiptop condition, ensuring that drivers are respectful, etc.).

When an enterprise is classified as a public utility, the rules applicable to private transactions do not apply. For example, if I want to buy a lot from person A, he/she can refuse to sell if my price is not acceptable to him. The transaction is voluntary on the part of both parties.

In a public utility transaction such as a taxi cab, the transaction is not entirely voluntary. A taxi cab who plies the street and not on its way to its garage has a continuing offer to provide service to the public at the price/fare set by the government. Therefore, once I flag down the taxi cab, the driver has to stop and give me the ride at the price set by LTFRB. He cannot demand more than what was fixed by LTFRB. He cannot refuse to accept me as a passenger.

Now, is an Uber taxi a form of public utility? Does it offer services that the public requires for their convenience? Is it then a public utility that must get a license from LTFRB?

If it is a public utility, can it refuse to offer service to a passenger because that passenger is one who abused the Uber app?

The issue here as well is that the LTFRB'a hands are full with regulating buses, jeepneys, regular taxi and UV express. It cannot even properly regulate these modes of transport and yet it wants to regulate Uber taxis. Tsk tsk.

[sbayhon]

Is an Uber car a public utility. You be the judge.

A public utility is a form of enterprise that offers to the public services that they need for their convenience. It is the reason why a license issued to the public utility operator by the relevant government regulatory body is also called a certificate of public convenience and necessity.

It is subject to heavy regulation such as fixing of rates and fares because it is an enterprise that is imbued with public interest. Because their services are needed by the public, public utilities can abuse their market power. And because public utilities tend to be monopolies, they are subject to government regulation.

Normally, power distribution, water distribution, gas distribution and public transportation are monopolies, this is because it is unthinkable for just any Tom, Dick and Harry to lay down water pipes on streets and hang cables overhead. While public distribution is no longer a monopoly in the Philippines due to deregulation, in some countries, it is still a monopoly or at the very least a duopoly. In HK, there are only 2 bus companies. It is easier to regulate that way (fixing of fares, ensuring that bus units are in tiptop condition, ensuring that drivers are respectful, etc.).

When an enterprise is classified as a public utility, the rules applicable to private transactions do not apply. For example, if I want to buy a lot from person A, he/she can refuse to sell if my price is not acceptable to him. The transaction is voluntary on the part of both parties.

In a public utility transaction such as a taxi cab, the transaction is not entirely voluntary. A taxi cab who plies the street and not on its way to its garage has a continuing offer to provide service to the public at the price/fare set by the government. Therefore, once I flag down the taxi cab, the driver has to stop and give me the ride at the price set by LTFRB. He cannot demand more than what was fixed by LTFRB. He cannot refuse to accept me as a passenger.

Now, is an Uber taxi a form of public utility? Does it offer services that the public requires for their convenience? Is it then a public utility that must get a license from LTFRB?

If it is a public utility, can it refuse to offer service to a passenger because that passenger is one who abused the Uber app?

The issue here as well is that the LTFRB'a hands are full with regulating buses, jeepneys, regular taxi and UV express. It cannot even properly regulate these modes of transport and yet it wants to regulate Uber taxis. Tsk tsk.

The US Supreme Court actually ruled in favor of Uber on its rides being private contracts. Our judiciary borrows much from US jurisprudence as well. I wonder how things would play out. I hope uber wins. I'm planning to be a partner - it would help give employment to deserving and service-oriented drivers.

[oj88]

I think it should be regulated. Uber, by nature of the service they provide, is colorum. If the government allows Uber to operate unregulated, this could serve as a precedence that makes colorum operations legal.

[shadow]

what if I have fleet of colorum vehicles then pagawa na lang ako ng app, magiging legal na rin ako?

since we're not the only city who is clamping down on uber kaya wala kang mababasang post na "only in the Philippines" sydney, singapore, toronto, vancouver their business model is being questioned and either already been regulated or in the process... so bakit pag dating dito hinde pwede?

if LTFRB is wrong in wanting to regulate uber, ibig sabihin mali din lahat yan cities from first world countries?

[NightRock]

It was asked yesterday by LTFRB regarding insurance and how they are payng tax.. does any one got a clear answer

[dr. d]

what if I have fleet of colorum vehicles then pagawa na lang ako ng app, magiging legal na rin ako?

since we're not the only city who is clamping down on uber kaya wala kang mababasang post na "only in the Philippines" sydney, singapore, toronto, vancouver their business model is being questioned and either already been regulated or in the process... so bakit pag dating dito hinde pwede?

if LTFRB is wrong in wanting to regulate uber, ibig sabihin mali din lahat yan cities from first world countries?

people make the rules.
in their spheres of influence, they can make things illegal or legal..

[sbayhon]

what if I have fleet of colorum vehicles then pagawa na lang ako ng app, magiging legal na rin ako?

since we're not the only city who is clamping down on uber kaya wala kang mababasang post na "only in the Philippines" sydney, singapore, toronto, vancouver their business model is being questioned and either already been regulated or in the process... so bakit pag dating dito hinde pwede?

if LTFRB is wrong in wanting to regulate uber, ibig sabihin mali din lahat yan cities from first world countries?

May nagrereklamo din dun kasi may tinatamaan na business - taxis.

Tsaka icompare nyo naman transport situation doon tsaka dito.

Doon pwede sabihin ng taxis na kahit papaano nabibigay nila minimum level of service. So they would be asking for government support to protect their businesses dahil ok naman ang publiko.

E dito? profit vs public safety and convenience.

[shadow]

^whether LTFRB can't properly regulate PUVs is not the issue. Uber should be regulated. And by the way, it's not only here where uber are having problems with govt agencies.

Cities all over the world are clamping down on uber, the last one I've read was I think Toronto or Vancouver.

[jut703]

Uber adjusted rates kasi sobrang dami na daw pumapasok na Uber partners. Yung dating rates kasi, may parang subsidy yun. Now they removed the subsidy na so ROI is much longer.

My last Uber X was in December, and so far the vehicles are still good (Altis, Accent, Vios were my last 3 rides, all bnew).


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[_Cathy_]

Based on the plate number it was a 2009 model. Today was very disappointing. The car also had several empty bottles of water and soda inside.

[cast_no_shadow]

^ cat as the saying goes there's always a first time.

Bakit di mo binigyan ng bad review?

You're just stating facts and hindi ka naman mag gagawa ng kwento.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[_Cathy_]

^ cat as the saying goes there's always a first time.

Bakit di mo binigyan ng bad review?

You're just stating facts and hindi ka naman mag gagawa ng kwento.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Na guilty ako kasi mabait naman siya throughout the ride (medyo mahangin at barbero nga lang ) Though magulang talaga yung gusto niya i start yung trip e malayo pa siya. I am sure may magbibigay din ng negative diyan.

[crazy_boy]

^ i am sure wala pang nagbigay ng negative. pag may nagbigay ng 1 star, big deal na sa Uber yun.

dapat talaga complain mo Cat.

[_Cathy_]

I accidentally pressed the 2 star. Pero I did not get an option on why I gave that rating.

[leodawesome]

Wow, baka dating taxi driver yan. The UBER community was infiltrated by PUV mentality already?

[ninjababez]

sa araw araw ko sakay ng cab. maraming mababait na cab driver, pero sh*tty driving parin. partida sa harap ako nakaupo palagi. anyway cathy i strongly suggest you complain once you experience this again. yung isang sup namin sa office na nag uuber, may mga extra service pa syang offer sa customer nya, kaso 4 star lang daw binibigay sa kanya madalas.

[shadow]

sa araw araw ko sakay ng cab. maraming mababait na cab driver, pero sh*tty driving parin. partida sa harap ako nakaupo palagi. anyway cathy i strongly suggest you complain once you experience this again. yung isang sup namin sa office na nag uuber, may mga extra service pa syang offer sa customer nya, kaso 4 star lang daw binibigay sa kanya madalas.

bakla ba yun sup mo? sup-sup ba yun extra service na offer ng driver?