Uber and Grab no more? LTFRB needs brains

**dr. d** · July 20th, 2017 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by minicarph

ang hindi kumampi sa ride sharing, di na iboboto 2 years from now

tayong pinoy?
we have the shortest political memory on the planet.

**Lew_Alcindor** · July 20th, 2017 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

instead of enjoying the original objective of offering the private car owner some income on the side, some entities have frankensteined it into an easy way of getting into the taxi business, without going thru the usual "regulations and safeguards".

Not "some" but apparently many of them.
BUT you have to wonder why people it seems prefer Uber/Grab than those who are under "regulations and safeguards".
Obviously, may mali sa traditional taxis which I think is being missed out by LTFRB by focusing only on the word of the law.

Kung ako tatanungin, just give all of them the franchise and let the market decide the winner. Protectionism leads to inefficiency and poor service.

**zoomzoom** · July 20th, 2017 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor

Obviously, may mali sa traditional taxis which I think is being missed out by LTFRB by focusing only on the word of the law.

Kung ako tatanungin, just give all of them the franchise and let the market decide the winner. Protectionism leads to inefficiency and poor service.

Amen bro... market dapat mag dictate what's best and not the LTFRB na puro pansariling interes o interes ng (taxi) lobbyist ang pinoprotektahan at isinusulong.... kunwari pinoprotektahan ng LTFRB ang mga mananakay... pero yung mga kolorum na bus at jeepney hanggang ngayon naglipana dahil may payola sa kanila... buwiset.

**dr. d** · July 20th, 2017 10:34 AM

everyone has "pansariling interes". even the "market" has its pansariling interes.

**zoomzoom** · July 20th, 2017 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

everyone has "pansariling interes". even the "market" has its pansariling interes.

Eh di suhulan natin ang "market" na sa Taxi na lang tumangkilik para mawala na uber / grab... how much kaya pansuhol kelangan?

**dr. d** · July 20th, 2017 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by ;2853634

Amen bro... market dapat mag dictate what's best and not the LTFRB na puro pansariling interes o interes ng (taxi) lobbyist ang pinoprotektahan at isinusulong.... kunwari pinoprotektahan ng LTFRB ang mga mananakay... pero yung mga kolorum na bus at jeepney hanggang ngayon naglipana dahil may payola sa kanila... buwiset.

basic example.
these uber-ists and grab-bers will be on the road longer than i will. they will contribute to the deterioration of the roadway system, more than i will. they should, therefore, contribute to its maintenance, more than i do.
this is one such interest of the ltfrb. it's called "taxes". the de facto taxis should pay their way and not piggy-back on the tax moneys of the others.

mananakays see only their personal issues.
they may not recognize the hidden issues that the government is tasked to see and remedy, so that they-the-mananakays, would not have to.

the least the mananakays can do, is to help the government care for them.

**CVT** · July 20th, 2017 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by jaypee10

ang tanong eh kung manghuhuli sila ng colurum sa libo libong private vehicle ngayon na nagkalat sa kalsada paano nila malalaman kung uber or grab ung sisitahin nila para ma check kung colorum ba ito o may prankisa.

para silang naghahanap ng karayom sa isang bundok ng dayami nito ha ha ha..

hindi ba maganda rin kung may naka sulat sa gilid ng tsikot mo kung uber ka or grab parang mga uv express din..saka dapat may data base din ung LTFRB kung saan pwede mo malaman kung may prankisa ba o colorum ung sinasakyan mong uber at grab para sa seguridad din ng parahero..

ung parang tinetext sa LTO na PLATE number at lalabas kung register o hindi ung isang sasakyan

Sa ibang bansa,- may prominent na mark sa may windshield na "UBER"....

"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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**zoomzoom** · July 20th, 2017 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

the de facto taxis should pay their way and not piggy-back on the tax moneys of the others.

Every vehicle on the road is charged a road tax di ba... no exemptions... so who's piggy-backing on who?...maybe yung mga pedicab, hindi rehistrado yun di ba?

**zoomzoom** · July 20th, 2017 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

mananakays see only their personal issues.

If the alternatives are that good (i.e. LRT / MRT/ P2P / PUJ / PUB / Taxis), do you think papansinin ng mananakay ang mas mahal na uber / grab... gusto nga ng LTFRB isaksak yang mga alternatives na yan sa lalamunan ng mananakay... kesyo mas safe, may habol kung maaksidente, kesyo mas bantay nila, atbp.... gumawa pa ng P2P ang LTFRB just to have another alternative to the alternatives... pero ano pinili ng "market"?

**CVT** · July 20th, 2017 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by unmarked

^^looks like a good summary to me.

sana ganito ka strict ang LTFRB dun sa mga taxi. Namimili ng pasahero, kontrata instead of metro, pandaraya sa metro, malinis at hindi reckless mag maneho etc

At buluk-bulok ang mga sasakyan na mababaho pa at kulang na kulang sa maintenance....

Nakakahiya sa ating mga locals at mas lalo na sa mga turistang sumasakay ng regular na taxi paglabas ng NAIA...

So so so na ang airport natin,- tapos ganito pa ang klase ng mga taxi....

Nasaan ang lehitimong pag restrikto o regulasyon ng LTFRB sa mga taxi natin, para maprotektahan ang mga consumers? Wala Wala Wala - habol lang talaga ang perang kaakibat sa prangkisa....

Agree to heavily regulate Uber and Grab immediately,- but LTFRB should shoot themselves next and resurrect as a phoenix.

Bottomline,- let the market forces decide who to patronize,- and obviously, this is learning towards uber and grab for whatever their worth is to the consumers... Regulate them, yes,- but Hack-the-Shaq the taxi system to reinvent themselves to be more competitive.

"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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