Going to Hong Kong thread [Merged]

[falken]

Nope, balita dito sa China they won't interfere with HK, so in short, they will let HK destroy itself.

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They will let HK implode.

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[uls]

to the disappointment of the West who wanna see a tianamen-style crackdown

[Monseratto]

To the central government, HK is just another Chinese city/province. There are other Cities/provinces that can take its place. HK uniqueness is no more, It is no longer the foothold/stepping stone to the Chinese market. let it burn...

But in Boao Forum that was what they reminded us. In a mere 30 years they have lifted 800 million people out of poverty riding on an average of 9 percent growth. They gave the impression that “we know what we are doing” and though HK is important, it is just one of China’s provinces. Yes let’s stay tuned and keep safe.

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[vinrem]

Interview with British journalist Tim Sebastian of Conflict Zone, Joey Siu, both a student leader and a student protester.

https://www.facebook.com/20022676500...0335686564173/

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[Verbl Kint]

A friend got stuck recently near HK Poly U. Fierce fighting has been happening in that area for days now.

This area is near a tunnel and is just 15 minutes from Tsim Sha Tsui and Nathan Road. Police have actually threatened to use live rounds last night.

This is a screen cap of Google maps as of today:



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[vinrem]

My friend canceled his hotel in TST and booked another hotel near Tung Chung so that it's near the airport.

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[falken]

Hong Kong Protests: Residents turn on protestors - YouTube

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[Monseratto]

Hong Kong Protests: Residents turn on protestors - YouTube

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Only they can save HK... I hope the tide will turn against the cockroaches.

[Monseratto]

Shows "defending their school" wasn't thought out through... Now they are whimpering like the childrrn that they are.

Hong Kong protests: radicals and police locked in tense stand-off at Polytechnic University | South China Morning Post

Democratic Party lawmaker Ted Hui Chi-fung, who has stayed on campus since Sunday, says most students and radicals are already very tired after previous confrontations with police, and their supplies are running low.

“The confrontations have paused for now, police can’t come in, but protesters can’t go out either,” Hui tells the Post. “The students are all very tired and some are tying to make some calls in case they get arrested. Food and drinking water are starting to get less and less, maybe they can’t stand another day.”

Ken Woo Kwok-wang, the acting president of Polytechnic University’s student union who is on campus, tells the Post between 600 and 700 people are still there. More than half of them are believed to be PolyU students, he says.

Woo says dozens of them tried to leave the campus through different entrances on Monday morning, but almost all of them were forced to retreat in the face of the tear gas fired by police. He believes only one of them managed to flee.

“Hong Kong police are creating a humanitarian crisis inside PolyU,” he says. “We are trapped. There is insufficient food and the number of injured is on the rise and the hygiene situation is getting worse. They are trying to push the students to a dead end, forcing them either to surrender or resist by putting their lives at risk.”

More than 50 first aiders are still on campus to take care of the injured, Woo says. “Many people have been hurt by the water cannon fired by the police overnight. The water has hit their heads and skin, causing dizziness and rashes,” he says, adding some also suffered from hypothermia.

Woo also calls on different organisations, including international groups, to offer humanitarian assistance to PolyU.
Updated at 11:42AM

[leonleon]

Kelan ba nananalo ang mga di-armado (civies) vs. armado (pulis)?

Obyus naman sino mananalo in a worst case scenario.

Yung EDSA people power kung tinuluyan ni Marcos Military early on, talo rin ang mga sibilyan.

Miracle na lang pag-asa.

[Egan101]

Kelan ba nananalo ang mga di-armado (civies) vs. armado (pulis)?

Obyus naman sino mananalo in a worst case scenario.

Yung EDSA people power kung tinuluyan ni Marcos Military early on, talo rin ang mga sibilyan.

Miracle na lang pag-asa.

It is even a surprise that China has been a bit cautious in handling the matter in Hong Kong. 30 years ago, it was a bloodbath in Tiananmen Square.

[BlancNoir]

Saan na tayo bibili ng relo in the future?

[jut703]

I find it interesting that my Facebook social network (mostly millennials) and Tsikot (mostly middle-aged men) have very different views on the Hong Kong struggle today.

Historically, revolutions have been waged mostly by the youth. They have the enegy, the idealism, and will suffer the oppression the longest. On the other end of the spectrum, even if older folks are dissatisfied with the system, they have far too much to lose if they shake up the status quo. This holds not just for HK but for many other revolutions going on today and in the past.

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[boybi]

Wrong move by the cockroaches to fortify themselves inside universities. They are now surrounded and boxed in by the police.

[uls]

kung hindi ka pa kailangan mag hanapbuhay, if you don't have to worry about paying the bills yet

madali maging idealistic at mag rally rally

tingnan niyo mga pinoy aktibista karamihan college student

nasaan ang mga middle ager na aktibista?

nandun naghahanap ng pera kasi baka maputulan ng kuryente

[Wh1stl3r]

What do you guys think about the conspiracy theory that police (maybe PLA even) have infiltrated the ranks of protesters and done many of the violent, destructive acts?

[uls]

^^

heard that before

but the inflitrators shouldn't be mandarin speakers

to HK protesters, if you don't speak cantonese you're not one of them

unless PLA specifically recruited cantonese speakers to infiltrate

[minicarph]

bakit di na lang nila pasukin 700 lang naman pala yan nagsira as compared to the population of HK , and what theyre gonna lose

cornered na pala eh, dapat hinde na stand off. Patayub muna nila dsl ng campus, tapos mag cellphone jamming sa area

Iyak na yan 700 na yan

Nakakaiyak talaga pag may smartphone ka pero walang internet

[Verbl Kint]

I find it interesting that my Facebook social network (mostly millennials) and Tsikot (mostly middle-aged men) have very different views on the Hong Kong struggle today.

Historically, revolutions have been waged mostly by the youth. They have the enegy, the idealism, and will suffer the oppression the longest. On the other end of the spectrum, even if older folks are dissatisfied with the system, they have far too much to lose if they shake up the status quo. This holds not just for HK but for many other revolutions going on today and in the past.

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Hence, the rise of the "Ok Boomer" meme.

I actually have friends and colleagues on both sides of the situation in HK. I can empathize with both.

But looking at it from the bird's eye view perspective of an outsider, China has been systematically trying to take greater control in Hong Kong by slowly introducing new laws and policies that fundamentally undermine the freedom that Hong Kongers have had for over a century. This is in contravention to the Sino-British Joint Declaration providing that Hong Kong's way of life and capitalist system would not change until 2047.

A lot of middle-aged people don't know this because they are not savvy enough to use their computers to study history, and merely rely on their faulty recollections of the past instead of documented history and data (the fallacy of the "Good Old Days").

For them, activism is bad, period, without realizing that it is precisely this idealism and activism which allow them to practice the freedoms they so love today.

[leonleon]

A lot of middle-aged people don't know this because they are not savvy enough to use their computers to study history, and merely rely on their faulty recollections of the past instead of documented history and data (the fallacy of the "Good Old Days").

For them, activism is bad, period, without realizing that it is precisely this idealism and activism which allow them to practice the freedoms they so love today.

Amen, bro.

Ako di ko malilimutan EDSA people power.

We should forever be vigilant.

Life is not all about the money.

People forget because of the money.

Ask those tradpols in power today.