using the clutch in stop-go traffic

[Puchok]

it's a no-no po..

Paano po dapat sir pagbaba?

[finchy18]

manual po ako sir

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ganun din gawa ko, pag malapit na stop neutral na them brake-brake-brake na lang

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see xto's answer

[Picard]

Paano po dapat sir pagbaba?

Depende kasi yan sa speed mo, pag sa mga mall parking, pag pababa ka, just stay on first gear para hindi ka bumulusok...just monitor your rpm, don't let it go too low pag masyadong mabagal...pag umabot na sa below 1000 ang rpm mo cyempre tapak clutch na...mararamdaman mo nman kung nanginginig na e.

depende sa speed mo, ganun din gear mo.

Same in higher speed downhill, pababa ng Baguio halimbawa, kung hindi mo nman kailangang mag-accelerate, just stay in the gear best suited for your speed na hindi ka bubulusok.

[j_avonni]

it's a no-no po..

Make it a BIG NO NO!

[finchy18]

same with picard..

the first gear is intact while going downhill like ayala underground parking are.

I still have the grip.

[Picard]

Shifting to a lower gear to use engine braking rather than stepping on the brakes when approaching a red stop light from high speed is also a big no no.

isang effect ng excessive engine braking ay.....cyempre engine BREAK.

[finchy18]

Shifting to a lower gear to use engine braking rather than stepping on the brakes when approaching a red stop light from high speed is also a big no no.

isang effect ng excessive engine braking ay.....cyempre engine BREAK.

same style.

I dont use it as sudden BRAKE..

It hurts really. hehe.

[Picard]

mahilig dito karamihan sa mga taxi drivers.. hehe! engine brake, long stop neutral, speeding, at music to the ears para sa kanila ang engine knock->low speed=high gear.

[Vinsanity]

ganun po ba. So for example bumababa ka sa parking ng Shangrila, first gear lang tapos bitaw sa clutch unless bumaba sa 1k RPM mo? no need for brakes right, clutch lang

[typhoon]

ganun po ba. So for example bumababa ka sa parking ng Shangrila, first gear lang tapos bitaw sa clutch unless bumaba sa 1k RPM mo? no need for brakes right, clutch lang

Pag pababa ka kase and bumaba na sa <1 rpm mo and you press the clutch without stepping on the brakes, mas dadausdos ka ng konti kase disconnected na yung engine sa tranny mo, afaik. So kung gusto mo alalay pa din sa pagtigil, apakan mo na din brakes, especially kung may nauuna sayo pababa na sasakyan.

[Picard]

ganun po ba. So for example bumababa ka sa parking ng Shangrila, first gear lang tapos bitaw sa clutch unless bumaba sa 1k RPM mo? no need for brakes right, clutch lang

YUP. pero Syempre kailangan mo pa rin ng alalay ng brakes. Ang gamit ng ganitong klaseng engine braking sa downhill ay (1) wag bumulusok ang sasakyan (2) to aid the BRAKES para hindi doble ang effort niya. Ang pinakaimportante yung number 1.

[kupaloids]

Di na ba kumukunsumo ng gas ang engine pag nag eengine brake? Diba pag nag neutral, 800 to 900k lng RPM pero pag nag engine brake ka gradual ang baba ng RPM.

Lets say 500meters kang nag free wheeling, diba 500meters na din naka minor ang engine mo whereas kung engine brake, kung galing ka ng 2000RPM, gradual bababa yun.

[OTEP]

Yup, engine braking consumes fuel. I don't really use it on flat ground. Basta kung naka-5th gear ako and coming to a stop, I'll step on the clutch just before my engine bogs. I won't engine brake on 3rd or 4th anymore.

[Picard]

Yup, engine braking consumes fuel. I don't really use it on flat ground. Basta kung naka-5th gear ako and coming to a stop, I'll step on the clutch just before my engine bogs. I won't engine brake on 3rd or 4th anymore.

Same here.

[OTEP]

ganun po ba? Ako kasi kapag pababa, neutral na then alalay sa brakes para di masyado mabilis.

In Subic that is against the law. It is also outlawed in other countries.

There's no practical way to enforce it but there is a good reason it is outlawed.

Btw, pati sa paypark ng UST may sign na stay on low gear when descending the parking structure.

[Picard]

In Subic that is against the law. It is also outlawed in other countries.

There's no practical way to enforce it but there is a good reason it is outlawed.

Btw, pati sa paypark ng UST may sign na stay on low gear when descending the parking structure.

Yup. Mejo matarik din kasi at hindi masyadong lighted. Hay nako badly designed ang carpark ng uste. Masyadong makipot ang mga daan, madilim, at bukod sa lahat pangit ang ventilation system. Pangit din yung placement ng climbs and decents, kailangan mo pang magpaikot ikot.

[vromvrom]

In Subic that is against the law. It is also outlawed in other countries.

There's no practical way to enforce it but there is a good reason it is outlawed.

Btw, pati sa paypark ng UST may sign na stay on low gear when descending the parking structure.

I'm really glad to have read this thread.. like vinsanity I also do the same neutral gear going down fro steep parking areas.... likewise I also felt compelled to shift to a lower gear approaching a full stop. dapat pala kahit naka 5th gear ka hayaan lang mag stop ang car, no need to shift to 4th or 3rd gear....pero okey lang ba talag un cluthch lang ginagalaw during heavy trafic? most often than not un ang nangyayari dito sa area ko dahil usad pagong lagi sa trafic...

[burnok]

ganun po ba? Ako kasi kapag pababa, neutral na then alalay sa brakes para di masyado mabilis.

that is very dangerous, you are putting too much strain sa brakes mo and your car can skid!! put your your gear to low and foot off the clutch pedal. rule of thumb is that the gear you used to go up any ramp or road is also the the safe gear in going down.

[starbutt]

requiring you to be on first gear while descending must be for a good reason. i am not sure, but i guess being on first gear makes your speed on descent more controllable: you have engine break, and foot break when needed. no rapid desceleration the moment you release the break from half break or full break.

if you put your gear on neutral while on descent, your descending speed might be irratic and the possibility of you losing control of your car would be higher: hihina pag half-break, hihinto pag full break, gugulong ka naman bigla the moment you release your break (which would not happen kung naka-first gear ka) at dahil nabigla ka, magfull-break ka na naman.

on neutral, you have to descend on half break (timplahan mo ng maayos) throughout your descent on neutral. kaso lang, pagmawala ka sa focus at maiba ang timpla sa break mo, wala kang extra-alalay. either mag-overshoot ka or bigla kang magfull-break.

the tricky part in engaging first gear on descent is the fact that you have to step on the clutch before you step on the break; otherwise, mamatay makina mo. perhaps, this is the reason why you put your gear sa neutral.

[trotsky]

excellent thread! it's great people here put a premium on safety!