Mirage reverse shift

**Salanguit** · June 25th, 2016 02:47 AM

Meron po bang naka mirage na manual dito? Ask ko lang kung normal ba yung "ngarag" sound pag nag reverse ng kambyo? ang lakas eh, lalo na pag kakabukas lang ng kotse, may ngarag din yung pag tigil tapos rereverse ka. May ganito ba yung sa inyo? Normal ba? May times na wala, pero madalas sa meron.

Salamat

**weisshorn** · June 25th, 2016 06:48 AM

Hand brake yan kumakapit pag reverse saka biglang bibitaw sa brake drum. For me it's just normal.

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**dr. d** · June 25th, 2016 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by weisshorn

Hand brake yan kumakapit pag reverse saka biglang bibitaw sa brake drum. For me it's just normal.

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i beg to dis-agree. the release should be soundless. if it makes a sound, then there something that's sticking. i encounter this in my (non-mirage) car, after wading thru a flood.

**chronicle** · June 25th, 2016 08:41 AM

afaik. halos lahat ng mirage m/t eh nararansan yan.
it has something to do with the mirage being low cost. i forgot the tech reason since that was 1 full year ago pa nung inexplain sa amin.

kelangan full stop bago mo i engage ang reverse.
may mga iba na engage muna first gear then go to reverse and nawawala yung ingay.

personally, full press ako sa clutch and todo kambyo (farthest right) to go to reverse.
kapag lousy ang pag engage ko (half clutch and malamyang kambyo), dun sumasabit.

HTH.
it's one of the quirks of this car.

**dr. d** · June 25th, 2016 09:05 AM

first, the celerio MT. now, the mirage.
unti-unting lumalabo ang pag-tingin ko sa mini cars...
heh heh..

**weisshorn** · June 25th, 2016 09:37 AM

dr. d naranasan ko yan sa lahat ng cars na nabili specially pag brake drum sa rear mostly sa umaga pag reverse. pansinin mo ang direction ng pag open ng brake shoe ay opposite sa rotation pag reverse. may resistance bago siya maka libre sa brake drum.nawawala din naman.

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**chronicle** · June 25th, 2016 09:39 AM

just remembered the reason:
its about the unsynchronized reverse gear.

**dr. d** · June 25th, 2016 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by chronicle

just remembered the reason:
its about the unsynchronized reverse gear.

they scrimped on the reverse synchronizer!??

**dreamur** · June 25th, 2016 09:44 AM

Then do a full stop before shifting to R. Even jeepneys and trucks have that sound.

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**dr. d** · June 25th, 2016 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by weisshorn

dr. d naranasan ko yan sa lahat ng cars na nabili specially pag brake drum sa rear mostly sa umaga pag reverse. pansinin mo ang direction ng pag open ng brake shoe ay opposite sa rotation pag reverse. may resistance bago siya maka libre sa brake drum.nawawala din naman.

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yespo. but to the under-initiated, it comes as an "un-nerving" experience.
i experience it from time to time myself, the morning after i drove thru a flooded street the night before..
i even had to rock the car back and forth using the engine, to free the shoes sticking to the drum.
but to experience it in a dry car! my suspicion is, the cable lubrication is... non-lubricating enough. or the retaining springs are "under-spec'ced". too weak. cheap.