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    Matagal tagal na din akong nagdadrive at dating dati ginagawa ko para maka conserve ako ng fuel eh nineutral ko pag malapit na sa toll booth at inaapakan ko ang breaks hanggang magstop.. syempre mali iyon.

    Anyway ngayon ginagawa ko naman let say nasa cruising speed ako na 80Km/h tapos 120 meters na lang ang pagitan ko sa traffic or sa isang tollbooth eh nagsoslow down ako. At 80kph nasa 5th gear ako, tama po bang nagbebreak ako ng swabe lang hanggang sa point na mabagal na mabagal ako at tsaka ko lang nineuneutral (from 5th gear)? Or kailangan as my speed slows down ganun din dapat ang pag shift down ng gears ko? Btw, iyong sinasabi kong naka 5th gear ako hanggang sa huminto eh hindi ko naman hinihintay na manginig na iyong makina ko.. basta natatimingan ko na pag hinto ko eh naka neutral na din iyong sasakyan ko. Sabay ang stop at pag neutral ko. Tama ba iyon or makakasira sa sasakyan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by froshie1 View Post
    Matagal tagal na din akong nagdadrive at dating dati ginagawa ko para maka conserve ako ng fuel eh nineutral ko pag malapit na sa toll booth at inaapakan ko ang breaks hanggang magstop.. syempre mali iyon.

    Anyway ngayon ginagawa ko naman let say nasa cruising speed ako na 80Km/h tapos 120 meters na lang ang pagitan ko sa traffic or sa isang tollbooth eh nagsoslow down ako. At 80kph nasa 5th gear ako, tama po bang nagbebreak ako ng swabe lang hanggang sa point na mabagal na mabagal ako at tsaka ko lang nineuneutral (from 5th gear)? Or kailangan as my speed slows down ganun din dapat ang pag shift down ng gears ko? Btw, iyong sinasabi kong naka 5th gear ako hanggang sa huminto eh hindi ko naman hinihintay na manginig na iyong makina ko.. basta natatimingan ko na pag hinto ko eh naka neutral na din iyong sasakyan ko. Sabay ang stop at pag neutral ko. Tama ba iyon or makakasira sa sasakyan?
    tama as long as walang nginig. nginig is a clear sign of mishandling.

    frequent vibrations could make premature ring wear. neutral cruising

    really saves you on fuel but not on brakes.

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    IMHO the best way to save gas is just to be gentle on the gas pedal and on the brakes... I have a gas mileage reader on my dash that constantly moves the needle and it's saying I don't consume gas whenever I put it in neutral or whenever I let off the gas pedal... To wait for the moment 'til the car is about to stop before shifting from 5th to neutral doesn't help at all... Apparently, I feel that it's safer for my car whenever I just shift from any gear to neutral before gently stepping on the brakes... I also don't use the tranny to slow down my car unless I'm doing some spirited driving... I actually did all the experimentation of how to use the gas, brakes, and tranny in order to actually find out what the best way is to consume less gas, it turns out that there isn't much difference between any of them (20.9 mpg, 21.4 mpg, 21.9 mpg - same results came up numerous times). Just be gentle on the brakes and on the gas when accelerating ~ I found that to be the best way to save gas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by froshie1 View Post
    cruising speed ako na 80Km/h tapos 120 meters na lang ang pagitan ko sa traffic or sa isang tollbooth eh nagsoslow down ako. At 80kph nasa 5th gear ako, tama po bang nagbebreak ako ng swabe lang hanggang sa point na mabagal na mabagal ako at tsaka ko lang nineuneutral (from 5th gear)? Or kailangan as my speed slows down ganun din dapat ang pag shift down ng gears ko? Btw, iyong sinasabi kong naka 5th gear ako hanggang sa huminto eh hindi ko naman hinihintay na manginig na iyong makina ko.. basta natatimingan ko na pag hinto ko eh naka neutral na din iyong sasakyan ko. Sabay ang stop at pag neutral ko. Tama ba iyon or makakasira sa sasakyan?
    tama din yun, for me ha, kung nasa 5ft gear ka at range of 80km/h down to 70,60km/h try to shift to lower gear, from 5ft gear to 4rt, 3rd, 2nd, kung 5ft gear shift ka to neutral, masyadong maluwag or open ang gear. lalo na mabilis. try mo nakakatulong din, parang engine break ba. ask natin ibang guru's for more information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IIE View Post
    tama din yun, for me ha, kung nasa 5ft gear ka at range of 80km/h down to 70,60km/h try to shift to lower gear, from 5ft gear to 4rt, 3rd, 2nd, kung 5ft gear shift ka to neutral, masyadong maluwag or open ang gear. lalo na mabilis. try mo nakakatulong din, parang engine break ba. ask natin ibang guru's for more information.
    Not saying that you're completely wrong, but IMHO I'd rather use the brakes than the tranny to slow down... For me, kahit na mag-shift ka ng gear perfectly, trany still gets as worn out as by how much/often you use it, and in a long run it makes sense... Brakes are cheaper than a tranny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blink21me View Post
    Not saying that you're completely wrong, but IMHO I'd rather use the brakes than the tranny to slow down... For me, kahit na mag-shift ka ng gear perfectly, trany still gets as worn out as by how much/often you use it, and in a long run it makes sense... Brakes are cheaper than a tranny...
    kung sabagay tama ka din sir, mas cheaper magpalit ng brakes than tranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IIE View Post
    tama din yun, for me ha, kung nasa 5ft gear ka at range of 80km/h down to 70,60km/h try to shift to lower gear, from 5ft gear to 4rt, 3rd, 2nd, kung 5ft gear shift ka to neutral, masyadong maluwag or open ang gear. lalo na mabilis. try mo nakakatulong din, parang engine break ba. ask natin ibang guru's for more information.

    Pards, usually ang ginagawa ko when breaking to a full stop na naka 5th gear eh break lang ako and then pag nasa 10 going 5 then 0 km/hr na tsaka ko na lang neuneutral. Tama naman iyon diba? tama lang na magbreak habang naka gear at hindi na kailangan magshift down? Ang hindi tama ay iyong mag gagas ka na sobrang baba ng speed mo at naka high gear ka. Anybody peeps?

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    If you are not using compression braking and braking from speed, just step on the brakes.

    When the engine is about to lug or bog, step on the clutch. The procedure in the first post is correct.

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    I guess it all comes down to what the driver is used to... kung sanay ka mag-brake while on 5th, I doubt this thread can make you change that habit... But really, there isn't much that's worth to count as a difference between ways of how you manage to slow down... There is no such right, and there is no such wrong way of doint it, unless you do some sort of damage or premature wear on other part components...

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    Gotta have a light foot on the gas so you can be easy on the brakes. I normally downshift rather than keeping the tranny on Neutral. I feel more in control of the vehicle and safer too. But, that's just me.

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    Step on the Brake first. You should step on the clutch if you're nearing full stop already (so as not to stall the engine). Going neutral is very dangerous. You'll never know when a mis-step might happen that you step on the gas and not on the brakes wondering why you're not slowing down.

    Stepping on the clutch before braking from a high speed is apparently wrong too ( i forgot why, i was just told so).

    A neighbor of ours did that stunt in a V10 Turbo dumptruck. He woke up in a hospital bed. Turns out, he flew off through the windshield when he hit something (i forgot what it was). hehehe.

    Engine brake, while maybe tranny wearing, is the safest. Getting a new tranny only costs money. Not doing so might cost you your life or those around you. But that's just my opinion. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Step on the Brake first. You should step on the clutch if you're nearing full stop already (so as not to stall the engine). Going neutral is very dangerous. You'll never know when a mis-step might happen that you step on the gas and not on the brakes wondering why you're not slowing down.
    Please explain more as to why . . . And I honestly have never heard of anyone misstepping on the pedals . . . ??? Has it actually happened before? I think a 10-yr old kid on his first 5 minutes behind three pedals is the only one who could make the mistake to do that... It would never happen to a novice who has practiced for an hour on his/her first day driving an MT...

    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Stepping on the clutch before braking from a high speed is apparently wrong too ( i forgot why, i was just told so).
    How could that be apparently wrong when you just forgot why???

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    Just use the right gear for the right speed. When slowing down, shift accordingly. Use the clutch and the brakes wisely.

    Para sakin hindi factor ang pagtitipid sa gas pag titigil ka na. Siguro yung matitipid mo napakakonti na para mapansin mo pa. Eto isipin mo: [size=4]mas mahal ang brakes at transmission kesa sa gas[/size]

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    what will wear out inside the tranny when you downshift? or engine brake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARB View Post
    what will wear out inside the tranny when you downshift? or engine brake?
    whatever the tranny is composed of... Doesn't literally wear the tranny but does contribute to wearness...

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    Quote Originally Posted by inchcockie View Post
    When slowing down, shift accordingly. Use the clutch and the brakes wisely.
    how? in terms of wisely? just a little more details, please. hehehh

    Quote Originally Posted by inchcockie View Post
    Para sakin hindi factor ang pagtitipid sa gas pag titigil ka na. Siguro yung matitipid mo napakakonti na para mapansin mo pa. Eto isipin mo: [size=4]mas mahal ang brakes at transmission kesa sa gas[/size]
    I know for a fact that braking does something to consume gas... I'm sorry I just do not know the details, but it's known as it is listed to be one of the tips to save gas... and FYI, mas-mahal ang gas kesa sa brakes and its components, kahit pa pagsamasamahin mo kung magkano yng brake pads, rotors, and brake fluid (such brake materials that do get wasted) mas-mahal pa rin yung gas don considering how long the materials last...

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    just be easy on the gas pedal and anticipate stop. ako when approaching stoplight/tollgate always shift to neutral and let the car glide then step on the brakes lightly hanggang mag full stop. confident naman ako na my brakes wont fail me cause I regularly check them

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    hehehe! ang haba na itong usapang ito, tama mga masters, kanya-kanyang diskarte lang kung pano hihinto at kung pano magtipid. tama din si guru, walang tama, walang mali. ang importante you know how to manipulate your car. bago naman gawin ang isang bagay alam mo na kung ano mangyayari sa car mo, ang you know kung ito ay makakasira.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blink21me View Post
    how? in terms of wisely? just a little more details, please. hehehh

    I know for a fact that braking does something to consume gas... I'm sorry I just do not know the details, but it's known as it is listed to be one of the tips to save gas... and FYI, mas-mahal ang gas kesa sa brakes and its components, kahit pa pagsamasamahin mo kung magkano yng brake pads, rotors, and brake fluid (such brake materials that do get wasted) mas-mahal pa rin yung gas don considering how long the materials last...
    If I give more details I'll already be preaching the basics of driving, which I assume most everyone here already knows. That I will not do.

    I will not debate with you on prices. It's a very subjective topic. Now that I've expressed my opinion, I'm sure you have your own. Let's not waste energies. If this means I lose, so be it. I refuse to comment further.

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    hahahhh, sorry if most of my posts make me sound like I'm after a debate... maybe I'm just more into details lol that's all

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