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    #351
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    well,
    today's ATs do seem to built more robustly than yesterdecades'...

    i don't know...
    after 16 years and over 145K km,
    i am still driving around with the MT clutch system that came with the innova, back in 2005.
    It really depends on the driver(s). Our old family hauler and "harabas" vehicle was our '99 Toyota Revo MT. Problem was, it went through maybe 8 different driving styles for its life within the family, that's excluding times borrowed by friends or relatives/extended family. It went through 2 clutch replacements and also needed to repair yung "finger" to engage/release for shifting into first gear twice also. It lasted us about 18 years. First transmission/clutch work only lasted 2 years, the second replacement didn't have issues even when we sold it. On the 2nd repair of clutch and transmission of that car, we didn't allow anyone to borrow it anymore and only 1 other family driver could drive it. Hehe!

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    #352
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    You'll only be able to drain & fill 2liters Ecstar AT OIL 3317 at a time. Do it twice or thrice each change cycle w/ some kms clocked in between.


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    check out what the manual says about the ATF. replace every 165,000 haha




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    #353
    nag pa ATF dialysis ako sa customer cradle las pinas, P1200 ang singil kapag may dala ka ATF fluid which is meron ako (mula sa CASA) kase honda ito at sawa sawa na ako sa mga peke na nabibili sa labas, nasasayang lang kase pera ko kapag inulit ang gawa at panibago bayad nanaman sa labor dahil sa inferior na peke.

    anyways ang drawback pala nito sa drain and fill ay sa dialysis ay hindi nila nililinis yung magnetic drain plug

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    #354
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    nag pa ATF dialysis ako sa customer cradle las pinas, P1200 ang singil kapag may dala ka ATF fluid which is meron ako (mula sa CASA) kase honda ito at sawa sawa na ako sa mga peke na nabibili sa labas, nasasayang lang kase pera ko kapag inulit ang gawa at panibago bayad nanaman sa labor dahil sa inferior na peke.

    anyways ang drawback pala nito sa drain and fill ay sa dialysis ay hindi nila nililinis yung magnetic drain plug
    And what fluid was running thru that equipment prior to yours?Changing ATF Fluid completely (DIALYSIS PROCESS)

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    #355
    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    check out what the manual says about the ATF. replace every 165,000 haha



    Following the image, and "how" they do recommendations, that means 165,000kms or on the 11th year as the interval of the chart is 15k kms/9k miles in 1 year.

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    #356
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    And what fluid was running thru that equipment prior to yours?Changing ATF Fluid completely (DIALYSIS PROCESS)

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    it was toyota atf muna ang ginawa sasakyan bago isinalang sa akin yung machine, totally i-empty nila yung dialysis machine both input and output tank, although may residue syempre na kakapit dun sa input container/tank nung na una ATF na nilagay kahit totally i drain siya pero very negligble yun versus dun sa 10L bnew honda ATF na isinalin sa INPUT side ng dialysis machine...

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    #357
    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    check out what the manual says about the ATF. replace every 165,000 haha



    scheduled maintenance come in normal and extreme driving conditions, i.e.; dusty conditions, hot climates, cold climates, towing trailer, city driving, stop and go traffic, salty environment. with extreme driving conditions which manila driving exist, service intervals are shorter. the manila motorists in general are OC when in comes to vehicle care. the more you mess with your car, the more it gets messed up specially when the fluids are not the recommended or the technician is not properly trained and knowledgeable of what he does. today's cars need beyond mechanics. reputable trained, educated and experienced technicians can't be cheap and can be reasonable. factors selecting your service technician include, but not limited to: education and training, experience, tooling, integrity and human relations. it'd be a challenge to find all of the above for a cheap price.

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    #358
    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    scheduled maintenance come in normal and extreme driving conditions, i.e.; dusty conditions, hot climates, cold climates, towing trailer, city driving, stop and go traffic, salty environment. with extreme driving conditions which manila driving exist, service intervals are shorter. the manila motorists in general are OC when in comes to vehicle care. the more you mess with your car, the more it gets messed up specially when the fluids are not the recommended or the technician is not properly trained and knowledgeable of what he does. today's cars need beyond mechanics. reputable trained, educated and experienced technicians can't be cheap and can be reasonable. factors selecting your service technician include, but not limited to: education and training, experience, tooling, integrity and human relations. it'd be a challenge to find all of the above for a cheap price.
    philippines is considered extreem driving conditions, so oil life is cut by half, on the said picture it says replace ATF at 165000km, cut that by half is about 80,000 KM

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    #359
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    philippines is considered extreem driving conditions, so oil life is cut by half, on the said picture it says replace ATF at 165000km, cut that by half is about 80,000 KM
    that would be a very prudent assumption cutting the interval in half just because nga of our severe road conditions

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    #360
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    nag pa ATF dialysis ako sa customer cradle las pinas, P1200 ang singil kapag may dala ka ATF fluid which is meron ako (mula sa CASA) kase honda ito at sawa sawa na ako sa mga peke na nabibili sa labas, nasasayang lang kase pera ko kapag inulit ang gawa at panibago bayad nanaman sa labor dahil sa inferior na peke.

    anyways ang drawback pala nito sa drain and fill ay sa dialysis ay hindi nila nililinis yung magnetic drain plug
    Ano ba ang naging symptoms nung gumamit ka ng inferior/peke? Kasi ako for the past 3 ATF changes, ung sa Lazada na Honda ATF ang ginamit ko, 200 kesos per bottle vs 700 sa casa. Wala naman akong napansin na kakaiba sa shifting ng transmission.

    Edit: 400 pala per bottle, not 200

Changing ATF Fluid completely (DIALYSIS PROCESS)