What's the rule on making sudden stops causing vehicular accidents?

[praetor91313]

I was reading a thread in the goon squad section when I remembered this question that's been at the back of my mind that's never been clearly answered satisfactorily:

Ano po ba ang rule pag nag-sudden stop ka at natamaan ka ng sasakyan sa likod mo?

It's been argued by some of those I talked to that making sudden stops is a no-no and if you made one and you're hit by another vehicle in the back, you're the one liable.

Some argue that if you hit someone who made a sudden stop, then you're the one who's liable since you were following too close in the first place.

I've been in two not-so-serious collisions before, one was in the taguig fly-over. A vehicle in front of us suddenly stopped and I did the same thing. Problem was, the taxi behind us didn't quite make it and hit my rear bumper. When I confronted him, he kept shouting that it was my fault since I made a sudden stop. "Bakit ka kasi nag-sudden stop?!" He kept on telling me. Anyways, we let it go since the damage in both of our bumpers were minor. Mine appeared worse at first dahil naka-crumple paloob, but after a few minutes I saw that it straightened out by itself.

Then just the other christmas, as I was travelling along the skyway, I hit a car at its rear when it made a sudden stop. Actually, there were three of us involved in the accident. As usual, pag christmas inaayos ang skyway and there was a crew in a van who were positioned just after a rise on the road kaya medyo late na pag makikita mo sila.

Nagpreno yung kotse na nasa harap ng kotse na nasa harap ko and of course the car in front of me also made a sudden stop. There was a 3-car space in front of me and I thought I could make it so I didn't floor the brakes initially pero nung nakita ko na di na aabot, I tried a full stop.

Di umabot.

At the police station, I was told by the policeman that it was my fault since I hit the other car from behind. I told him the other driver made a sudden full stop and that's why I hit him. The police officer told me if that were the case, then it was still my fault since the fact that I hit the other car means I was driving too close. I told him it's my habit to maintain a distance of at least three vehicles fron the car in front of me and that I was never "too close" but the policeman won't listen to reason. Finally, he told me I either had to receive a ticket (which would cost me P1,000 plus day attending a seminar at QC) or I could just settle the matter with him for a mere P500.

Anyways, I was contending that the skyway is a highway and one doesn't do sudden fullstops at highways.

What do you guys think?

Tapos na ang incidents na to. I just wanted to know what you think so I can finally know what's right.

Thanks!

[ghosthunter]

Typical would be the fault of the car behind you for following too close if there is no other circumstances around the accident.

[ericp]

I agree.

You should be prepared to stop before hitting the car in front in such situation. You hit me from behind, your fault....as a rule.

It means that the distance that you maintain between your bumper and the car in front must be calculated according to your car's braking distance...not necessarily 3 car lengths all the time or any distance for that matter....closer in heavy traffic, much farther at high speeds.

Imagine a car in front (at NLEX , 100 kph for example) of you blowing out a tire , out of control....you're coming too fast, too close...bam!

With the right distance you may be able to serve to avoid collision.....'wag tutok ....para di salpok ika nga.....and tutok (how far or how near) is a relative term.

Factor in the fact that the car in front may suddenly stop...low chance but it happens. Murphy's Law Rules!

Never argue with the other driver. No driver will admit fault.....as a rule. Just smile and simply write your account of the incident on a piece of paper and sign it. Silence has its virtues sometimes. Take pictures ...360 degrees.

Give it to the investigator...that facilitates things. The pen is more diplomatic at times than the tongue

If you're not in agreement with the findings, there's always the court. But it's for another chapter

Keep distance..... Wag tutok..galit barok....If you can read this, you're driving too close.....distansya amigo.....don't bump my rear....

They all came from bitter experiences with getting hit from behind....the car in front may be slow but it's still ahead of you and is in your way......the road is a public place...chaos lurks.....the defensive driver wins.


Safe driving to all!

[oj88]

By default, the car behind will be at fault. However, if the car in front engineered or intentionally caused the accident and you're able to prove it (by way of witnesses), MAYBE you'll have a fighting chance.

[ericp]

Oh and by the way, you may assume that the taxi ,bus, truck driver (or you too maybe) is able to drive that day only because of the temporary effect of so called "energy drinks".

no drink can replace sleep...REM sleep for that matter......very dangerous situation...lack of sleep and ability to focus.....eager to tailgate , i don't know why.......impaired reflexes and slow reaction times!

Consider installing all around rubber bumpers....ala bump car!

[oj88]

Consider installing all around rubber bumpers....ala bump car!

Force field. FTW! :D

[ericp]

Force field. FTW! :D

I'll love that! Computer , Shields Up...Romulans on starboard!

[ericp]

This link gives a table of TYPICAL BRAKING DISTANCES. A good guide in deciding how far you should be from the car in front based on your speed:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum.../dg_070645.pdf

Average car length is 13 feet.
For example, at ~90 kph, you need 55 meters (olympic size pool is 50m) of space to come to a stop after you step on the brake pedal....

Safe driving!

[niky]

This link gives a table of TYPICAL BRAKING DISTANCES. A good guide in deciding how far you should be from the car in front based on your speed:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum.../dg_070645.pdf

Average car length is 13 feet.
For example, at ~90 kph, you need 55 meters (olympic size pool is 50m) of space to come to a stop after you step on the brake pedal....

Safe driving!

This is the rule I usually follow. I always keep a minimum gap of two seconds between me and the car in front, letting it open up to the said fifty meter gap at 100 km/h.

There is absolutely no reason to be following another car at closer than a two or three second interval. If you hit the car in front of you, it's your own damn fault for following too close.

I admit, I'm sometimes guilty of closing up to two or three car lengths when I can see around the car in front of me, getting ample warning of obstacles in front of him... simply out of habit... but this is no guarantee of safety.

Of course, if you're the idiot who brakes to a stop in the middle of a highway for a small pothole, causing a multi-car collision... I will feel free to beat the f*** out of you...

When people start tailgating me, I pull out of the way, if I can... slow down to force them to pass... or start playing the cha-cha with the brake pedal, to get them off my ass...

[xtremerider]

Ano po ba ang rule pag nag-sudden stop ka at natamaan ka ng sasakyan sa likod mo?

It's been argued by some of those I talked to that making sudden stops is a no-no and if you made one and you're hit by another vehicle in the back, you're the one liable.

Some argue that if you hit someone who made a sudden stop, then you're the one who's liable since you were following too close in the first place.

By default, the car behind will be at fault. However, if the car in front engineered or intentionally caused the accident and you're able to prove it (by way of witnesses), MAYBE you'll have a fighting chance.

The Practice in driving according to this issue is, whoever position at the back is the one liable...

You should give at least a 5 meter safe distance from the car in front of you so you can maneuver or apply your break incase a sudden stop aquired by the one you are following.

This practice also applies not only here in the philippines but from other countries.

Safe Ride...

[tsupermario]

I was reading a thread in the goon squad section when I remembered this question that's been at the back of my mind that's never been clearly answered satisfactorily:

Ano po ba ang rule pag nag-sudden stop ka at natamaan ka ng sasakyan sa likod mo?

It's been argued by some of those I talked to that making sudden stops is a no-no and if you made one and you're hit by another vehicle in the back, you're the one liable.

Some argue that if you hit someone who made a sudden stop, then you're the one who's liable since you were following too close in the first place.

imho there are many variables to consider. for reference, here's the link to our traffic code.

[jjmd3_787]

imho there are many variables to consider. for reference, here's the link to our traffic code.

Ang haba nung code. He he he. Marami akong natutuhan. Ayos!

[SIZE=1]... pero hindi ko pa rin nakita yung parte tungkol sa question ng thread na ito[/SIZE]

[BratPAQ]

imho there are many variables to consider. for reference, here's the link to our traffic code.

pafs, di ba parang luma na to? kasi 5 petot lang lisensya eh, saka ang mumura ng fines eh, 50 petot para sa invalid drivers license?

[tebs69]

By right when you collide with the car in front of you you are automatically liable. In Singapore for example, once you collide with the car ahead of you, the front vehicle will not even bother to talk to you or ask you the usual why questions. All he does is take down your plate number and leaves the scene without any arguements. Few days after that you will receive a traffic violation ticket and pay the corresponding fines plus damages caused to the vehicle involved. To eliminate arguements i think its best to just keep a safe distance between you and the car in front whatever the situation. This should apply to all motorist. Unfortunately in our country where half of the drivers especially PUVs do not even know how to read traffic signs and where the vehicles they are driving are poorly maintained indeed you can be hit from behind. Discipline and road manners are whats lacking in a lot of the motorists here. If we excercise a little road courtesy and our traffic situations are more predictable then we can drastically eliminate unnecessary accidents. Thats just my two cents worth.

[tsupermario]

Ang haba nung code. He he he. Marami akong natutuhan. Ayos!

[SIZE=1]... pero hindi ko pa rin nakita yung parte tungkol sa question ng thread na ito[/SIZE]

boss try ko i-tagalog para klaro sa iyo.

hindi simple yung tanong at ang sagot ay nakadepende sa maraming bagay

halimbawa, paano na lang kung expired or peke ang lisensya ng bumangga sa iyo or ang lisensya mo? paano pala kung binangga yung kotse mo sa likod dahil nagt-text ang driver? etc. etc. etc.