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    #21
    This is starting to sound stupid. Paano ang mga pick up trucks? Taxed na din? How about commercial vehicles like the ADMax and ADResort?

    Sumakay na lang kaya tayong lahat ng tren?

    Sana may maglabas ng bare bones SUV (with 4wd) para naman may magamit pa din sa bukid.

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    #22
    Why can't we just adopt the US system of taxation?

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    #23
    HBOY, sa bagong tax scheme, wala na. yung current tax scheme based on displacement, may difference yung taxation ng desiel and gas.

    OTEP, yung kasali lang sa bagong tax scheme are "Automobiles" as defined by BIR. AFAIK, pickups, LCVs (and siguro yung ADMax) will continue to be Excise Tax exempt.

    Pinaka-hard hit talaga by this tax scheme are luxo cars that have a base price of over 2M before VAT and Excise tax.

    I wonder if the auto manufacturers actually pay the money they owe the gov't. Its kinda hard to imagine kasi yung mga car manufacturers almost never discuss to the buyer yung breakdown ng costs (i.e 600k vehicle cost, 150k Tax). Lagi lang "The new Corolla. Starting at 750k" or something like that.
    Last edited by kevinp; August 5th, 2003 at 03:55 PM.

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    #24
    So LCV's are exempt? Pwede sigurong gawin ng mga manufacturers yung strategy ng Kia dati. Hindi nila nilalagyan ng side rear windows are rear windshields yung mga Sportage para ma-classify na LCV. Kapag binili ng consumer, may 'conversion package' na included sa presyo.

    Ang laman ng conversion package ay yung mga missing windows, the rear seat and various other trim pieces para maging wagon yun Sportage 'delivery van'. hehehehe.

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    #25
    Naisip ko nga rin yan e. Example yung revo VX2200. gawin nila same engine lang tapos bare to the bones talaga kahit tingga na mags para below 600k yung selling price. pag nabili na ng customer, samahan na ng "Luxury Package" kasama yung Mags, VCD player, power windows, power steering, leather seats, etc. Kung ganyan, di kasama yung amenities sa invoice price ng auto kaya di rin ito masasama sa excise tax. :D

    Bagong pandaraya na naman ng auto manufacturers ang mangyayari nyan! hehe! Good for the consumer, bad for the Government.

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    #26
    bad naman tlga government natin eh :lol:
    puro kurakot! :D

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    #27
    hayyy...dapat makabili na nang sasakyan bago ma-implement yan...


    teka damay na ba yung mga bibili ngayon kung sakali?

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    #28
    yep... kasi dati nagtanong ako tungkol sa pagtaas ng price ng crv, di na nila hawak yung taxation eh... kontrolado na ng government kaya kahit magreserve ka na ngayon, sakop pa rin yung full price sa new taxation scheme.... which really sucks! :mad:

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    #29
    my friend from toyota said that they stopped producing units of the revo na kasi di na magiging affordable or practical para sa target market nila. with that kind of money, they can buy the mini suvs na eh.
    true...

    Pinaka-hard hit talaga by this tax scheme are luxo cars that have a base price of over 2M before VAT and Excise tax.
    bad trip talaga... palayo ng palayo dream cars ko!! yun mga nangungurakot lng nakakabili mga kumag kayo!

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    #30
    mga peeps... take note that AUVs (Revo, Crosswind, CR-V, Adventure) will not become unaffordable after the new tax scheme. The increase ng tax ng AUV's will be less than 100k. Personal estimate is around 60k (see my computation for the revo above).

    The issue about AUV's becoming unaffordable is with the CURRENT tax scheme based on displacement. Kung yung current tax scheme ang masusunod, talagang di na affordable ang AUVs (i.e. VX2200 Revo would be subject to 50% tax). But since price-based na ang tax, iba na ang computation.

    Ang kalaban nating mga consumers here is the confusion that comes with the implementation of the new tax scheme. We must be vigilant against profiteers kasi tingin ko meron mga iba dyan who will take advantage of the confusion and jack-up their prices too much.

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