Traffic In Manila - Who Contributes The Most?

[dr. d]

How's the traffic? As bad as pre-covid?


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it is actually considerably better now. no huge provincial behemoths and buses.. no PUJs clogging the intersections.
it would be the height of selfishness, if i were to wish that it remain like this.
wala lang nga kaming office personnel. they can't commute to work, as there are no public utility vehicles around.

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Some countries use this method and it works ... take a look at South Korea ...

Designed properly hinde nilipat lang from right to left basta basta without the proper infrastructures, diba meron pang part sa EDSA na kailang pa rin mag cross ng bus from left to right?


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[Wh1stl3r]

COVID has revealed the answer - obviously private cars.

The past few days I've been driving, traffic is roughly as bad as when it was pre-ECQ. And that's with zero public transpo.

Nasaan na yung mga nagsasabi na kasalanan ng PUV? Kesyo wala daw disiplina, etc etc. It's clear as day that cars take up most of our roads even with an average of just 1-2 people per car.



I hope every single car owner in Metro Manila takes a hard look in the mirror and admits that WE ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

Does it mean we would all give up our cars? Of course not. But next time any of us gets stuck in traffic, suck it up because you contribute to the problem too.

Yes we need the government to provide better public transpo systems. So blame them and not bus drivers forced to live cutthroat lives on the road because of the antiquated boundary system.

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Couldn't agree more. Current situation highlights the urgent need for more effective public transport.

Long term decongestion plans should include aggressive government incentives for living and operating businesses in the provinces.

[dr. d]

Long term decongestion plans should include aggressive government incentives for living and operating businesses in the provinces.

i agree with this.
government should make it attractive to live outside the NCR.

also, without effective population enlightenment, population will always out-number any infrastructure effort.

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Couldn't agree more. Current situation highlights the urgent need for more effective public transport.

Long term decongestion plans should include aggressive government incentives for living and operating businesses in the provinces.

Hinde lang naman ngayon sinasabi na kailangan ng efficient public tranaport. But how?

Meron ako narinig na interview lahat ng pautot na ginagawa ngayon sa EDSA hinde na kailangan kung concentrate nila yun effort and resources sa existing MRT natin. Dagdagan na nila marami yun mga trains para mabilis turnover rh di walang pila sandali lang antayin eh di mas marami na sasakay MRT at mabawasan na gagamit ng kotse


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[dr. d]

Hinde lang naman ngayon sinasabi na kailangan ng efficient public tranaport. But how?

Meron ako narinig na interview lahat ng pautot na ginagawa ngayon sa EDSA hinde na kailangan kung concentrate nila yun effort and resources sa existing MRT natin. Dagdagan na nila marami yun mga trains para mabilis turnover rh di walang pila sandali lang antayin eh di mas marami na sasakay MRT at mabawasan na gagamit ng kotse


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yes!
dagdagan at dalasan ang lrt and mrt trips. how does three bagons every three regular minutes sound?
it seems so obvious, i do not understand why our decision-makers do not see it.

and, oh!
give it an honest-to-goodness maintenance and improvement budget.
that way, it won't bog down nor become obsolete.

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Saka dapat complimentary ang buses sa EDSA hinde competition sa MRT.

Pati jeeps dapat complimentary hinde competition wala na dapat jeep sa mga dinadaan ng buses and vice versa
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[Wh1stl3r]

Hinde lang naman ngayon sinasabi na kailangan ng efficient public tranaport. But how?

Meron ako narinig na interview lahat ng pautot na ginagawa ngayon sa EDSA hinde na kailangan kung concentrate nila yun effort and resources sa existing MRT natin. Dagdagan na nila marami yun mga trains para mabilis turnover rh di walang pila sandali lang antayin eh di mas marami na sasakay MRT at mabawasan na gagamit ng kotse


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Pag nilegalize nila yung kickback sa MRT ang bilis nyan.

[dr. d]

Saka dapat complimentary ang buses sa EDSA hinde competition sa MRT.

Pati jeeps dapat complimentary hinde competition wala na dapat jeep sa mga dinadaan ng buses and vice versa
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our leaders have been promising that for decades.
none have delivered, yet.

they raise the issue after they get elected, but conveniently forget to use it as a campaign promise, come next election time.

[jut703]

Saka diba pre-covid eh mga buses ilan lang sakay pero nasa daanan pa rin tapos antay-antay ng pasahero pati mga jeeps. !

Di ko alam kung kelan ka last nagcommute, but if you've ever been at the EDSA cor. Ayala bus stop 5pm onwards every weekday, or sa Crossing or sa Cubao, you would know na hindi bakante mga bus. Siyempre may patay na oras (usually mga 11am-4pm) on some routes - pero may mga ruta at oras din na laging puno. So it's route rationalization, not an outright oversupply of buses, that's the problem. Same issue with jeeps - because they're privately operated, hindi match ang supply ng jeep sa daan sa demand ng pasahero at that time - basta byahe lang ng byahe. Jeepney modernization will not solve this unless it also comes with central dispatching , which is true for all PUV systems in all developed countries.

Saan ba daanan traffic ngayon? EDSA? How about yun mga secondary roads ngayon wala ng mga jeep saka ibang bus?


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Here's an example - Commonwealth Avenue. On a typical day this would have jeeps (Quiapo-Fairview) and buses (Buendia-Fairview) which would take up the rightmost lanes. Eh ngayon wala sila pero puno pa rin ng private cars:


In stark contrast, this is how the roads looked like during ECQ nung walang private cars:


A more relatable example would be Holy Week - halos walang private kasi nasa probinsiya or nagpapahinga. Bumabyahe pa rin naman mga bus at jeep kasi sayang kita. Pero sobrang luwag pa rin compared to today.

Bottomline - pinamakalaking contributor ng traffic ay private cars. Pero hindi magcocommute ang may private car kasi bulok ang public transpo and hindi maayos pamamalakad ng gobyerno. Pero dahil private motorists din ang cause ng traffic, edi wag sisihin ang PUV dahil tayo ang mas may kasalanan sa traffic. Kalampagin ang gobyerno na dapat nagdadagdag ng tren sa MRT at gumagawa ng centralized BRT and jeepney dispatch system.

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