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    This was temporarily closed during the term of Bayani at MMDA and it improved the flow of traffic along C-5 from the flyover at Blue Ridge to the Flyover at Ortigas. I pass this area once a week but the U-Turn here causes traffic to choke from the fly over of Ortigas northbound until you pass this area and vice versa southbound.

    IMHO, this U-turn slot only serves the interest of those living in Eastwood City and the people going to the Mall. What Megaworl should have done was to construct a flyover to ingress/egress the Eastwood City and not inconvenient the majority of the population passing thru C-5.

    I have sent a letter to MMDA thru their website made for grievances to report this chaos created by the U-Turn slot but have not received any reply from them yet.

    WHat do you think tsikoters, should MMDA close this U-TURN slot infront of Eastwood City and have the cars u-turn under the fly overs just like what was done before?

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    Well it benefits not just the residents and mall-goers. Remember that Eastwood is a business district as well with thousands of employees going in and out 24/7. I only occasionally go to our Eastwood office but I can imagine how much of an inconvenience that would be to the employees if that u-turn slot is closed down.

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    i understand where you are coming from Sir. but majority of the employees there take the public transportation so they will benefit from the faster flow of traffic with the closure. only the minority of employees with cars will be affected by taking a longer route to u-turn under the fly over, but as was explained before, the faster traffic flow would result to lesser fuel consumed than the heavy traffic before you reach that area.

    and besides, the number of people who will benefit from the faster traffic flow will outnumber the number of people to be inconvenienced by the longer route to make the u-turn in and out of Eastwood.

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    The U-turn was for the benefit of Eastwood City and it has resulted in a lot of traffic in this portion of C5. It was closed before and this did improve traffic flow well enough. If Megaworld really cared about traffic flow in the area and not just building on every square inch of land, they would have considered the following:

    - Build unloading bays for PUVs (as we know, the jeeps stopping in front of Eastwood cause a lot of traffic)
    - Make more road space to the entrance of Eastwood with reference to the natural flow of traffic rather than immediately putting a building right smack at the corner of their main entrance. The 90 degree turn from C5 to the narrow entrance of Eastwood causes traffic to slow down considerably.
    - Build it's own flyover or underpass from the C5 Southbound lane (like what Rockwell Land did for access from EDSA Northbound to Estrella Sts.).

    To say that closing the said u-turn slot in front of BMW Libis/Eastwood will inconvenience the thousands of employees in Eastwood is incorrect IMO. There are much more people who traverse C5 who are inconvenienced by this U-turn slot. AFAIK, Megaworld/Eastwood pushed for this u-turn to be reopened because traffic in the mall back then decreased when it was closed. How can the QC government refuse one of its large business taxpayers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yourman_2nd View Post
    i understand where you are coming from Sir. but majority of the employees there take the public transportation so they will benefit from the faster flow of traffic with the closure. only the minority of employees with cars will be affected by taking a longer route to u-turn under the fly over, but as was explained before, the faster traffic flow would result to lesser fuel consumed than the heavy traffic before you reach that area.

    and besides, the number of people who will benefit from the faster traffic flow will outnumber the number of people to be inconvenienced by the longer route to make the u-turn in and out of Eastwood.
    I assume that this is your daily route, right bro?

    Ako nga average - once every 2 weeks lang napaparaan dito (on a Saturday),- umiiksi na ang pisi ng pasensya,- ikaw pa?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    I assume that this is your daily route, right bro?

    Ako nga average - once every 2 weeks lang napaparaan dito (on a Saturday),- umiiksi na ang pisi ng pasensya,- ikaw pa?....

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    This could be my daily route as well but because of that U-turn induced Eastwood traffic, the slowdown/bottleneck at the Bagong Ilog flyover, and the C5-Kalayaan U-turn shenanigan of BF, it's still faster for me to cook it out on EDSA. Taking EDSA also gives me more alternative routes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    I assume that this is your daily route, right bro?

    Ako nga average - once every 2 weeks lang napaparaan dito (on a Saturday),- umiiksi na ang pisi ng pasensya,- ikaw pa?....

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    i only pass this route once a week sir due to weekly activity somewhere in Pasig. Imagine those who pass this chaotic area everyday. You will really feel very pissed when you go down the Ortigas flyover at a snail pace then right after you pass this area, traffic flows faster. Worse is southbound when you go down the Blue Ridge flyover, super slow traffic but after you pass this u-turn it's green and go! If you will see this area on a helicopter, you will realize this SUPER BOTTLENECK area. And what does MMDA do with this problem? NOTHING. Kasi nga malaki siguro contribution ng Megaworld sa MMDA so as to maintain this U-turn open.

    Now, if they can't close this U-Turn, what they can do is to limit the u-turning vehicles to just a single lane for both sides by putting lane dividers like those concrete or plastic road blocks, this will then leave 3 lanes for passing thru vehicles. Now kasi, two lanes are occupied by u-turning vehicles. Moreso, the u-turing vehicles going to eastwood swerves tot he right to enter Eastwood while those vehicles that exited Eastwood swerves to the center of C-5 to make the U-turn. TAMA BA NAMAN YAN GANYAN TRAFFIC FLOW ATTY TOLENTINO? Doesn't take a rocket scientist nor an Attorney to answer that question. Common Sense will.

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    The real issue here are the jeeps in front of Eastwood / Citibank. They take two lanes of the road and hang around until they get passengers. I think that's what causes the bottleneck. That U-Turn slot is half of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kotiko View Post
    The real issue here are the jeeps in front of Eastwood / Citibank. They take two lanes of the road and hang around until they get passengers. I think that's what causes the bottleneck. That U-Turn slot is half of the problem.
    true. plus alangan ung pwesto ng U-turn slot sa may Gentext.

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    I pass by this area every single day and sobra talagang traffic dyan...and mga bagay na nagcocontribute are the following;

    1. U-turn slot itself
    2. Jeepneys
    3. Vehicles na galing u-turn slot (south bound) tapos kelangan magsharp right papasok sa may libis police station (I guess alternative way ito going to eastwood)
    3. Vehicles na galing eastwood na pagkalabas kelangang magsharp left para maka-uturn going southbound
    4. Mga taong hindi gumagamit ng overpass at tumatawid sa c5

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    Still don't understand why they don't just close the u-turn slots and open a new one at the old Jollibee intersection, instead, as it's the proper distance from Eastwood...

    Or simply reopen the intersection... as it provides a release valve for the entire area, shunting traffic to White Plains.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mateomarco View Post
    I pass by this area every single day and sobra talagang traffic dyan...and mga bagay na nagcocontribute are the following;

    1. U-turn slot itself
    2. Jeepneys
    3. Vehicles na galing u-turn slot (south bound) tapos kelangan magsharp right papasok sa may libis police station (I guess alternative way ito going to eastwood)
    3. Vehicles na galing eastwood na pagkalabas kelangang magsharp left para maka-uturn going southbound
    4. Mga taong hindi gumagamit ng overpass at tumatawid sa c5
    agree. accident prone pa yung mga swerving vehicles dahils sa u-turn. by closing this will solve the other 2 problems (#3 & 3, hehe) numbers 1 and 4 can be solved by the MMDA traffic enforcers manning the u-turn slot to transfer to the jeepney stop and address the jaywalkers when the u-turn slot is closed. so again, this problem doesnt need a rocket scientist or Attorney to solve. Only common sense can!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Still don't understand why they don't just close the u-turn slots and open a new one at the old Jollibee intersection, instead, as it's the proper distance from Eastwood...

    Or simply reopen the intersection... as it provides a release valve for the entire area, shunting traffic to White Plains.

    Sir Niky, maybe Atty Tolentino will lsiten to you since you are a known writer from a Top Car Magazine. May we kindly request for your assistance in calling his attention directly or thru your Magazine by asking your editor in chief to write an article about this area. Ganyan kasi mga Politiko eh, they dont listen to the common tao because they feel they have a monopoly of bright ideas.

    To think that C-5 is a major artery that serves as an alternative route from South to North (SLEX-NLEX). This is one bottleneck that can be easily solved with the proper political will. If they will not close this, then I am inclined to believe that they are getting some reward (monetary or otherwise) by keeping this open.

    Kung yun ngang U-turn slot under EDSA flyover - Quezon Ave corner and the u-turn slot for Biak na Bato St right after the newly opened QA- araneta tunnel na-close nila, bakit hindi nila ma-close eto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yourman_2nd View Post
    agree. accident prone pa yung mga swerving vehicles dahils sa u-turn. by closing this will solve the other 2 problems (#3 & 3, hehe) numbers 1 and 4 can be solved by the MMDA traffic enforcers manning the u-turn slot to transfer to the jeepney stop and address the jaywalkers when the u-turn slot is closed. so again, this problem doesnt need a rocket scientist or Attorney to solve. Only common sense can!!
    Sorry sir! hehe! nagulo na yung numbering ko same as sa gulong gulo ang utak ko everytime umuuwi ako at dumadaan sa area na ito...wla namang intersection pero pakaliwa't kanan yung mga vehicles sa paligid ko!

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    or probably we can tweet the MMDA? lahat tayo? hehe to bring this to their attention? im sure a lot of people will comment din

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    Quote Originally Posted by mateomarco View Post
    I pass by this area every single day and sobra talagang traffic dyan...and mga bagay na nagcocontribute are the following;

    1. U-turn slot itself
    2. Jeepneys
    3. Vehicles na galing u-turn slot (south bound) tapos kelangan magsharp right papasok sa may libis police station (I guess alternative way ito going to eastwood)
    3. Vehicles na galing eastwood na pagkalabas kelangang magsharp left para maka-uturn going southbound

    4. Mga taong hindi gumagamit ng overpass at tumatawid sa c5
    Kaya nga mga bros.,- kapag napaparaan ako rito (sabi ko nga earlier about once in every two weeks - sa iyong 3 and 3,- lumalabas ang aking pagiging "Maginoo Pero Medyo Bastos".... :hysterical:

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    dapat isara na ang U-turn slot kung ayaw ng Megaworld makinig sa suhensyon ng MMDA. Anong klaseng sagot yang binigaw ng MMDA sa isang malaking problema na nararanasan ng libo libong Pilipino sa lugar na ito. Mukhang hindi umabot kay Tolentino at mga clerk lang ang sumagot sa suhensyon.

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    Written by METROSOLUSYON
    Tuesday, 13 November 2012 02:15

    EASTWOOD: U-TURN SLOT

    Reference No. 2012012

    Araw-araw na lang po namin kalbaryo ang trapik sa lugar na ito na kadalasan nagsisimula sa Ortigas-Libis flyover. Wala na po ba pag-asa malunasan o mabawasan man lang ang trapik sa lugar na ito lalo na po pag Biyernes? Ang madalas po namin nakikita ay ang mga jeepney na halos gawing terminal ang tapat ng Citibank papasok ng Eastwood. Ngunit sa tingin ko po ang pinakadahilan ng trapik ay ang mga lumalabas galing Eastwood sa harap ng Citibank at pipiliting makatawid ng 3 lane para makapag-U turn going to C5 at ganun din po sa U-turn from Boni Serrano/White Plains going to Eastwood via Orchard road.

    Suggestion lang po sana ay gawing one-way going in to Eastwood ang kalsada sa harap ng Citibank at gawing one way out of Eastwood ang Orchard road sa tabi ng Eastwood Police Station para maiwasan ang mga sasakyan na tumatawid galing Eastwood para mag-U turn at maging mga sasakyan na galing ng U-turn at pipilitin makatawid para makapasok ng Eastwood via Orchard road.



    REPLY FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CENTER (TEC)

    Ang iyong suhestiyon na gawing one-way ang kalsada sa C-5/Citibank papasok sa Eastwood at palabas ng Orchard Road ay matagal na naming napag-usapan kasama ang Eastwood management ngunit hindi sila pumayag dahil malaki ang populasyon at ang Orchard Road ay entrance galing sa U-turn Slot.


    Ang DPWH ay gumagawa ng pag-aaral para sa proposed flyover. Sa kasalukuyan ay dapat paigtingin ang enforcement ng MMDA at aming iindorso ang inyong suhestiyon sa Traffic Discipline Office (TDO).
    Last Updated on Tuesday, 13 November 2012 05:50



    dapat isara na ang U-turn slot kung ayaw ng Megaworld makinig da suhensyon ng MMDA. Anong klaseng sagot yang binigaw ng MMDA sa isang malaking problema na nararanasan ng libo libong Pilipino sa lugar na ito. Mukhang hindi umabot kay Tolentino at mga clerk lang ang sumagot sa suhensyon.
    WAT DA EFFFF...

    So Eastwood Management pa ang dapat pumayag???!!! THAT'S PLAIN BS. They don't own or control C5, specifically that center island and U-turn slot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    WAT DA EFFFF...

    So Eastwood Management pa ang dapat pumayag???!!! THAT'S PLAIN BS. They don't own or control C5, specifically that center island and U-turn slot.
    yun nga eh, kaya nga nilagay yang u-turn slot na yan dahil sa request ng megaworld para sa eastwood city tapos kapag gagawa ng paraan para maayos ang traffic na dulot ng U-turn slot, di sila papayag kung maapektuhan eastwood city. WTF talaga!!!! malapit na akong maniwala na malakai ang naibibigay ng megaworld sa mga nagpapanatili ng u-turn slot na yan.

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