Solon wants to require parking space before consumers can buy cars.

[boy astig]

Eto suggestion lang po....

Instead of curtailing the right of the citizenry to own a motor vehicle, why dont the LGU's (and/or Honorable (?) lawmakers) make a bill requiring each LGU to put up commercial parking buildings na reasonable ang monthly rent? Yng parang ala makati parking building. Why reasonable? Para may dahilan magreklamo yng citizenry kung hindi at par yung serbisyo. Why not free? Who are you going to blame when your vehicle gets vandalized, worse stolen?

Madami naman properties sa mga LGU's na nafoforfeit dahil sa hindi pagbayad ng amilyar. They can start with that. Or yng mga ibang idle government land sa boundaries nila.

Just my 3 cents

[mac103]

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That provision should be included in the bill. For example, add a provision that all urban barangays should provide a long-term pay parking facility, with annual renewable lease on the parking slots.

Agree, daming idle/vacant lots sa mga residential barangays dito sa Metro Manila. If the landowner is delinquent in paying taxes, seize the land and convert into parking facilities. Kung unused lot na up-to-date naman sa taxes, lease the land from the landowner with a profit-sharing agreement between the LGU and the landowner, or give the landowner tax deduction in exchange for the use of his lot.

[mac103]

By the way, eto pala ang sagot ng mga "honorable" congressmen sa Proof of Parking Space bill:

Solons reject parking bill - Manila Standard Today

“This is an elitist legislation and has no place in a democratic country. A car is not a luxury, it is a necessity. Making a garage availability a prerequisite to car ownership is tantamount to depriving the marginal sector the opportunity of owning a vehicle,” Bello said.

What?!?!!

[dr. d]

... car not a luxury but a necessity...? well, majority of our people have no cars, and they're still alive...
but when did this become an issue? we are talking about private citizens commandeering public roads for private garages..

tekateka... siguro dahil malapit na ang halalan...

[Salamander13]

By the way, eto pala ang sagot ng mga "honorable" congressmen sa Proof of Parking Space bill:

Solons reject parking bill - Manila Standard Today

“This is an elitist legislation and has no place in a democratic country. A car is not a luxury, it is a necessity. Making a garage availability a prerequisite to car ownership is tantamount to depriving the marginal sector the opportunity of owning a vehicle,” Bello said.

What?!?!!

LOL! sana ganyan din magisip mga taga LTO.

"his is an elitist legislation and has no place in a democratic country. A car is not a luxury, it is a necessity. Placing a NO PLATE NO TRAVEL policy will deprive the marginal sector the opportunity of owning a vehicle,” Bello said.

sana ganyan HAHAHA!!

OT lang :D

[dr. d]

what's elitist about requiring prospective car owners to have garages where their cars may not bother others?
i think it's only fair..
we have age requirements in acquiring drivers' license, to help ensure responsibility..
why not parking space requirement in buying a car, to help ensure responsibility that their car will not cause road traffic just sitting there?

if they really want the common tao to be able to acquire a car easily, they should cut the huge car tax...

... politicians... bah!

i hope these politicians read these threads... so's they know "the pulse of their constituents".
i invite them to go to my neighborhood.. and see for themselves what i'm talking about. i mean, the roads are so full of parked motor vehicles, i can't buy a fortuner to replace my innova because it's just a bit wider..

[testament11]

By the way, eto pala ang sagot ng mga "honorable" congressmen sa Proof of Parking Space bill:

Solons reject parking bill - Manila Standard Today

“This is an elitist legislation and has no place in a democratic country. A car is not a luxury, it is a necessity. Making a garage availability a prerequisite to car ownership is tantamount to depriving the marginal sector the opportunity of owning a vehicle,” Bello said.

What?!?!!

He's on a high!!!! Deym!!!!!

[ned27]

By the way, eto pala ang sagot ng mga "honorable" congressmen sa Proof of Parking Space bill:

Solons reject parking bill - Manila Standard Today

“This is an elitist legislation and has no place in a democratic country. A car is not a luxury, it is a necessity. Making a garage availability a prerequisite to car ownership is tantamount to depriving the marginal sector the opportunity of owning a vehicle,” Bello said.

What?!?!!

I agree with this reasoning "..depriving the marginal sector". I'm not a rich man and cannot just buy all at the same time (like maybe most of you guys can) - meaning pa-isa isa lang muna. Like I got a car and next is to loan a townhouse somewhere in the south.. (inuna ko sasakyan para kahit Antipolo/Cavite magbahay, ok lang) so parang wala na ba akong karapatang mag-kotse dahil sa wala akong sariling lupa para sa garahe diba?

Dalawa lang naman ang rason eh, either elite na "can afford" ka or "bitter" lang.

Peace! =)

[KingReyes]

I agree with this reasoning "..depriving the marginal sector". I'm not a rich man and cannot just buy all at the same time (like maybe most of you guys can) - meaning pa-isa isa lang muna. Like I got a car and next is to loan a townhouse somewhere in the south.. (inuna ko sasakyan para kahit Antipolo/Cavite magbahay, ok lang) so parang wala na ba akong karapatang mag-kotse dahil sa wala akong sariling lupa para sa garahe diba?

Dalawa lang naman ang rason eh, either elite na "can afford" ka or "bitter" lang.

Peace! =)

I'm not a rich man also but I still agree with the proposed law because it will benefit the majority and not those who feel entitled to use public areas (i.e. roads, sidewalks) as a private parking spot.

Regarding sa argument mong wala ka bang karapatan magkakotse dahil wala kang garahe, my opinion is you can use your rights to whatever extent that you please as long as you don't hinder others to exercise their own equal rights. Ibig sabihin, kung pampubliko yung lugar wag mong sarilihin kasi hindi lang sa'yo yun.

[mac103]

I agree with this reasoning "..depriving the marginal sector". I'm not a rich man and cannot just buy all at the same time (like maybe most of you guys can) - meaning pa-isa isa lang muna. Like I got a car and next is to loan a townhouse somewhere in the south.. (inuna ko sasakyan para kahit Antipolo/Cavite magbahay, ok lang) so parang wala na ba akong karapatang mag-kotse dahil sa wala akong sariling lupa para sa garahe diba?

Dalawa lang naman ang rason eh, either elite na "can afford" ka or "bitter" lang.

Peace! =)

Here's a photo I took last week, this is in Pasig, on a city street which I take to avoid heavy traffic on the main roads. That car is there every day, pero last week lang nag-umpisa na maglagay ng car cover which I take to mean that he is parking his car there for the long term.



Multiply this scenario by hundreds or thousands more car owners with the same mindset as you, who would feel entitled to use the street in front of their house as his own parking dahil "paisa-isa lang muna ang pwedeng bilhin".

Lest you construe me as an elite na "can afford", to the contrary, nagsimula rin ako sa pag-rent ng apartment which I shared with college friends, one of which had a car which used our unit's sole parking space. When I finally saved up and bought a second hand 10-yr old car, I "borrowed" a vacant parking spot 50 meters from our apartment. Ngayon we're living in a middle-class condo, of course I included a parking slot with the mortgage.

My point is, di kailangan na sariling pag-aari mo ang lupa para sa garahe. Kailangan lang gawan ng paraan, maghanap ng lugar o espasyo na pwedeng rentahan.

There's this analogy, kung bumili ka grand piano pero wala kang space sa loob ng bahay mo, ilalagay mo ba sa kalsada at tatakpan na lang para hindi mabasa? Pareho lang yan sa sasakyan, it's your personal property and before buying it, you SHOULD have a place for storage/safekeeping.

[_Cathy_]

Food, shelter and clothing are necessities. Cars are NOT a necessity. It is a convenience.

Wth are these gunggong politicians saying that it is an elitist legislation? 1st world countries nga nagsu survive mga tao walang kotse. Ayusin kasi nila yung public transportation system para hindi na kailangan mag kotse.

[dr. d]

part of the problem, is that the car owner has converted his garage into a sala.... so he parks his car out on the road, beside his "sala"..
kapitbahay namin.. ginawang sopdrinks business yung garahe niya.. yung kotse niya, naka-semi-permanent parking sa labas, sa daan.. kitid-kitid pa naman yung daan..

at least naman, government should make an effort to relieve road congestion by hauling illegally parked vehicles away to the coral farms..

[andrewnathaniel]

Malamang malapit na ang halalan kaya hindi nila yan maipasa. Madaming magagalit na botante sa kanila pag naipasa nila yan, hindi sila iboboto sa sunod. Yang mga nagRereject naman ang patuloy na iboboto ng mga tao maaapektuhan sa Parking Bill

[BratPAQ]

Hirap patunayan na totoo ang proof of parking lot mo. Kung may bahay ka sa probinsya yun ang parking lot proof mo, pero renting ka sa ng apartment samanila na Street parking ka pa rin. Lusot ka na sa batas. And how can they make sure na itong sinasabi mong parking lot eh hindi rin ginamit ng ibang kamag anak mo as proof of their parking lot too?

May batas na naman tayo against illegal parking, bat di na lang patupad ng maayos yun? Damihan ang mga tow vehicle, idamay na rin sa tow you mga bobong parking sa kabilang thread, haha.

[andrewnathaniel]

Hirap patunayan na totoo ang proof of parking lot mo. Kung may bahay ka sa probinsya yun ang parking lot proof mo, pero renting ka sa ng apartment samanila na Street parking ka pa rin. Lusot ka na sa batas. And how can they make sure na itong sinasabi mong parking lot eh hindi rin ginamit ng ibang kamag anak mo as proof of their parking lot too?

May batas na naman tayo against illegal parking, bat di na lang patupad ng maayos yun? Damihan ang mga tow vehicle, idamay na rin sa tow you mga bobong parking sa kabilang thread, haha.

Yup. Mahirap talaga mapatunayan na may parking lot ka. Katulad ng nasabi ko noon pwedeng magPlan B ang government, magpataw ng mataas na parking fee sa mga nakaparada sa kalsada, tapos iTow kung hindi makabayad. Just my 2 cents

[greenlyt]

sa bpifb pinupuntahan ng CI yun address nun mag loan kung makita nilang wala kang garahe para sa kotse dis-approve car loan mo
don't know if they still do this tho

[andrewnathaniel]

sa bpifb pinupuntahan ng CI yun address nun mag loan kung makita nilang wala kang garahe para sa kotse dis-approve car loan mo
don't know if they still do this tho

Nice. Ayos to ah. Dapat pala lahat ng banko mag-patupad na din ng ganito. Pag walang grahe, Disapprove. Para na din napatupad yang Parking Bill na sinasabi.

[ntlogin]

Dapat lang. Kapitbahay namin hindi na nga kasya yung sasakyan nila ginagawa pang garden garahe nila. Sarap irocket launcher sasakyan nila

[khalee]

sa bpifb pinupuntahan ng CI yun address nun mag loan kung makita nilang wala kang garahe para sa kotse dis-approve car loan mo
don't know if they still do this tho

I'm not sure din. But they did ask me kung may pag parkingan ako ng car. But its good if all banks will do that.

[ninjababez]

^sa sto nino din bro bago mag sta. monica (shortcut from casino filipino bldg)
wala sidewalk, hirap dumaan doon sa sikip. kaya kahit mas mabilis yung route na yun iniiwasan ko nalang at umiikot nalang ako.