New and Used Car Talk Reviews Hot Cars Comparison Automotive Community

The Largest Car Forum in the Philippines

Page 12 of 15 FirstFirst ... 289101112131415 LastLast
Results 221 to 240 of 607

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    40,599
    #1

  2. Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    54,625
    #2
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    i am wondering why they stopped it in the first place.
    ang dali naman mag-conform to IATF social distancing policy...
    unless! someone was dragging its feet in approving their applications for rfid tapal centers...
    Last edited by dr. d; November 21st, 2020 at 12:23 PM.

  3. Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    928
    #3
    Initial reports say the UB was already installed since 16 Oct and that there were no lifting activities when the accident happened. Looks like the crane was going outside the UB medians to be moved to another site when the boom tilted causing it to hit the UB.

    Crane involved was used for lifting deck slabs, not for the much heavier UBs.


    Gadget Addict

  4. Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    14,700
    #4
    4 dead na daw ?

  5. Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    40,599
    #5
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    4 dead na daw ?
    1 lang daw 3 injured. Statemet ng EEI


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  6. Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    40,599
    #6


    Delayed na!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  7. Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    895
    #7
    So nakapatong pa lang yung girder sa coping beam di pa naka-anchor kaya nung tinamaan nung crane nalaglag. Very unfortunate accident. RIP sa namatay.

  8. Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    928
    #8
    Actual video of the accident:

    EDIT 12:47H: di ata nag emed ng maayos, link here

    Last edited by absinthe; November 22nd, 2020 at 01:48 PM.

  9. Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    40,599
    #9



    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  10. Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    13,917
    #10
    masakit talaga doon sa namatayan kasi dumadaan ka lang bigla magkaganyan. TApos yung nainjured din masaklap yun paano kung putol kamay paa..

    pero ang maganda dito eh mukhang well-compensated.

  11. Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    13,917
    #11
    napanuod ko yung video nasagi ng crane. Bakit hindi pinahinto yung mga sasakyan pag may ganyan may tinatransfer sa taas. Naalala ko dito araneta avenue pag may ganyan construction once na gumalaw crane pinapahinto mga motorist.

    Carelessness nangyari sobrang overconfident eh dikit na dikit sa kalsada.

  12. Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    40,599
    #12
    Yari! na issuehan na sila ng work stoppage, wala na nagka leche leche na schudule.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  13. Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    1,320
    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Yari! na issuehan na sila ng work stoppage, wala na nagka leche leche na schudule.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Kinasuhan na ng reckless impudence resulting to homicide,injury and damage to property yung Crane Operator/Driver ng Subcontractor mismo.

    Pero dapat yung Project Engineer nung segment na yun and yung safety office kinasuhan din sa side ng EEI. Nagtataka ako bakit wala sinabi about them.

    Subcon nga yung crane operator, pero si EEI ang kumuha ng subcon na yun. They are under EEI's jurisdiction and responsibility during construction. So meron dapat sila kaso kung ganun din. Mag-iiba lang dynamic kung si SMC mismo kumuha ng Crane Subcon at hindi siya under EEI, which is not the case.

    Tulad ng sabi ko sa parents ko, hindi pwede yung crane operator/driver lang may kaso. Alangan naman siya din yung baba para harangan at magmando ng traffic na responsibility din ng EEI to ensure safety of the public since dumadaan under an active construction site.

    Yung sinasabi ng LGU ng Muntinlupa na kesyo dapat nagcoordinate sa kanila, lip service lang yun pang hugas kamay na wala sila alam. Hindi nila inisip na wala sila talaga kasalanan kasi responsibility ng EEI yun at all times while working on their segments of the Skyway. Kaya nga may OSHA and Safety Officer, may project engineers ka pa who should "know better".

    SMC is not liable for anything. May CARI rin yan si EEI (Contractor's All Risk Insurance) by default, and as with all construction contracts, the property owner/developer is automatically not held responsible for the actions of the contractor that may lead to problems/issues.

    Kaya medyo naiinis ako sa news na pinuntirya lang nila yung Crane Operator.

    May work stoppage nga din, so wala na din yung new Feb 2021 deadline na adjusted.

    Question though, yung kesyo rereview safety protocols ng Skyway Stage 3 constructions, diba may bumagsak na din na beam sa A Bonifacio last year ata

    Skyway coping beam falls, causing heavy traffic at NLEX | Inquirer News

    WATCH | 5 hurt, traffic snarled as beam falls from Skyway section under construction in Makati

    So don't forget, walang nagbago. Nagrelax na yung leads sa site kaya nagkaganyan. Malapit na kasi matapos akala nila pwede na sige sige lang.

    EDIT:
    Consunji, EEI bag Skyway contracts | PPP CenterPPP Center

    so with the ppp.gov link, EEI, responsible siya sa segment na ito along SLEX mismo sa may muntilupa. Siya din responsible sa segment sa A Boni sa bumagsak na biga last year. So 2 strikes na siya.

    I think yung responsible for that Makati Segment na may bumagsak nung 2017 was DMCI, but correct me if I am wrong.

    So, with the above facts... we have to apply the saying "Fool me once, shame on you (EEI). Fool me twice, shame on me (SMC and gov't)" Hindi mo na mababago yang mindset ng EEI personnel kung ganito nangyari na ulit under their watch.

  14. Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    4,725
    #14
    nawalan ng balanse yung crane.. almost 90 degrees na yung boom kaya tumagilid dun sa counterweight side.. tapos medyo tilting pa yung road.. mukhang hindi din naka extend yung side supports nya

    sa interview kanina ng dos por dos kay RSA, sabi nya minadali daw kasi yung movement ng crane.. kaya mukhang sisihin yung kawawang crane operator..

    pero walang nabanggit kahit ano kung sino yung Project Engineer na naka assign during that time at kung may Safety Officer on site

    tingin ko hindi naman gagalaw yung crane operator ng walang nag uutos sa kanya on the ground eh..

  15. Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    13,917
    #15
    pag ganyan naglilipat sa taas eh madaling-araw ginagawa tapos isasarado mo kalsada.

    masyado siga gawin ng office hours.

    heavy lifting always pag wala laman kalsada.

    hindi pa ako engineer. Im a behaviorist.

  16. Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    40,599
    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    pag ganyan naglilipat sa taas eh madaling-araw ginagawa tapos isasarado mo kalsada.

    masyado siga gawin ng office hours.

    heavy lifting always pag wala laman kalsada.

    hindi pa ako engineer. Im a behaviorist.
    Kasi naman po. Ang mga tao hinde mo alam kung ano gusto. Nun sinara yun service road ang daming nag reklamo bakit daw kailanga isara, ngayon nag given in sa demand at binuksan dapat naman daw isara. Ano ba talaga gusto?

    For me dapat talagang isara hanga ng matapos pero papayag pa mga tao doon?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  17. Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    1,320
    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    pero walang nabanggit kahit ano kung sino yung Project Engineer na naka assign during that time at kung may Safety Officer on site

    tingin ko hindi naman gagalaw yung crane operator ng walang nag uutos sa kanya on the ground eh..
    Ito yung tumpak na parang hindi pinapansin ng media pero alam mo in the back of your head na alam na nila yan sa dami ng cover nila na major construction na nagkaissue. Itong sa skyway pa lang, kahit nung 2015 may OSHA na yun at always standard yung construction protocols and project engineers in charge of giving orders for the day and monitoring the Gantt Chart/Bar Chart Schedule.

    Kanina pinakita ininterview yung investigating council ng Muntinlupa, nagtaka na ako parang tikom na banggitin na may pagkukulang yung mga in charge on that segment na engineer and safety officer leads/EEI. Iwas sabihin na under investigation pa anu yung "pagkukulang". Sigurado na zarzuela na lang ito para di sabihin walang ginagawa yung LGU. Formalities for show na lang ito.

    Kawawa talaga yung crane operator din kahit na meron talaga siya direct fault in what he did to cause the accident, hindi lang siya ang may pagkukulang at may kasalanan kung bakit umabit sa ganito.

    EDIT:
    Curious tuloy ako if baguito yung engineer and safety officer(s) na nilagay or assign ni EEI to take charge sa area. Ika nga yung tipong first few days on the job pa lang kaya kapa lang sila sa sistema pero sige sige magutos na gawin niyo to... pag tinanong panu, sagot... Basta dapat tapusin ninyo or papalitan namin kayo. Anu magagawa ng worker/operator kundi sumunod na lang diba?

    Baka din EEI is already "spread too thin" with their main force kaya yung mga hindi experienced yung nakaassign, which is possible naman. Pero dapat may nagbabantay din at advice sa kanila na senior about sa protocol kung ganun. "chain of command" ika nga.

    Malabo naman foreman lang iniwan nila to take charge sa segment kaya nagkaganito siguru? EEI yan, di naman backyard na contractor lang na lumabas parang kabute.

  18. Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    13,917
    #18
    may abogado yung namatay. Nagwork sa bgc so represented ng company kasi nga nabagsakan while on duty. So sa husgado yan madedemanda yang project engineer. Ayaw lang pabanggit sa media kasi mababash.

  19. Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    5,975
    #19
    Northbound, traffic piles up all the way to Southwoods in the mornings & afternoons because of the bottleneck caused by the construction & the skyway entry point on the Alabang interchange bridge because of motorist occupying 2-3 lanes with the outer 1-2 trying to swerve into the first lane. Finally yesterday, SLEX patrol controlled those 2 lanes so those entering have to queue in the 1st lane. Compared to before where traffic is at a standstill at times, traffic is now moving albeit, at a slow pace but still moving. Sometimes, konting disiplina kailangan.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

  20. Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    39,174
    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Northbound, traffic piles up all the way to Southwoods in the mornings & afternoons because of the bottleneck caused by the construction & the skyway entry point on the Alabang interchange bridge because of motorist occupying 2-3 lanes with the outer 1-2 trying to swerve into the first lane. Finally yesterday, SLEX patrol controlled those 2 lanes so those entering have to queue in the 1st lane. Compared to before where traffic is at a standstill at times, traffic is now moving albeit, at a slow pace but still moving. Sometimes, konting disiplina kailangan.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    Ang gugulang kasi ng ibang mga Pinoy drivers... Ang utak nila,- "Kung nasa likod ka (at kahit na mabagal ako),- maghintay ka"...

    Hindi iyong mabagal ako,- sa kanan lang ako at pabayaang ang mga mabibilis ay makalusot....

Tags for this Thread

SLEX Alabang traffic