Skyway Stage 3

[TsekwangBakla]

Sabi nga may halaga ang convenience. Mga pinoy talaga, gusto puro libre. Kung ayaw magbayad, wag dumaan.

May pagpipilian naman. Parang kotse lang yan, gumamit ka ng vios, may aircon at makakarating ka din sa pupuntahan, pero gusto bumili ng Fortuner para mas mukhang may mayaman at hindi mapagkamalan grab.

[shadow]

Ayaw pa kasi approve yun pagsingil ng toll kaya tama yan isara na muna para matapos na at complete. Huwag na pagbigyan si Villar ng "soft opening" para magamit sa campaign siya sa senate.

Ginawang dahilan na hinde pa complete kaya hinde pa pwedeng maningil.


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[baludoy]

Although apektado din kami, i agree na Let smc bill nga naman. Halos lahat ng gumastos jan smc, if not all. Tapos kinukuha pa ng credit ng gov't ang glory sa construction nito.

Buti pa nga iyong mga tinamaan ng eminent domain sa project na iyan nabayaran na from what i've heard. Iyong lupa ng mga magulang ko sa cebu nganga pa ang bayad pagkatapos acquire ng napocor mag 3 years na din.

do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

[glenn_duke]

Although apektado din kami, i agree na Let smc bill nga naman. Halos lahat ng gumastos jan smc, if not all. Tapos kinukuha pa ng credit ng gov't ang glory sa construction nito.

Buti pa nga iyong mga tinamaan ng eminent domain sa project na iyan nabayaran na from what i've heard. Iyong lupa ng mga magulang ko sa cebu nganga pa ang bayad pagkatapos acquire ng napocor ko mag 3 years na din.

do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

Ayaw siguro ng TRB na sumingil ng full ang SMC na 274.
To me, may point naman, hindi pa full useable yung expressway, dami pang hazard na bollards, kaya kung maniningil dapat i base sa useability ng daan which includes the width at safety factor ng road.

[absinthe]

Ang says 'no closure' of Skyway Stage 3 as mix-up being addressed
Prinz Magtulis (Philstar.com) - March 16, 2021 - 8:41am

MANILA, Philippines (UPDATE 9:12 a.m., March 16) — Motorists in Metro Manila can heave a sigh of relief as the Skyway Stage 3 will not close down and remain open after work hours on Tuesday.

In a text message, San Miguel Corp. president Ramon Ang said there will be "no closure" of the 18.83-kilometer toll road.

The conglomerate as well as the Toll Regulatory Board (TRB), which was said to have issued the closure order, are now talking to fix what appeared to be a miscommunication between the two. Ang said to have personally called Transport Secretary Arthur Tugade who "will take this up to TRB."

[17Sphynx17]

Ayaw siguro ng TRB na sumingil ng full ang SMC na 274.
To me, may point naman, hindi pa full useable yung expressway, dami pang hazard na bollards, kaya kung maniningil dapat i base sa useability ng daan which includes the width at safety factor ng road.

Alam ko that is not the issue whether useable yung stretch end to end ng SS3.

Nainterview alam ko dati si Sec Villar (if memory serves me right). If not Villar maybe it was a Usec, can't remember clearly. Yung application for toll rate ni SMC sa SS3 hinges on 95% substantial completion. Ang problema may mga kulang pa si SMC sa completion targets niya at nung February or late Jan, record nila was at 90-91% pa lang complete (Can't find an article about it). So di talaga ma-approve ng TRB yun. Hindi pa kasi substantially complete. Yun yung contractual obligation naman sa part ni SMC before they can apply for toll rates.

Skyway 3 stays toll-free longer | Headline | Daily Tribune

Link is an article that mentions something about ramps but not about minimum completion or substantial completion before toll can be collected.

[shadow]

Alam ko that is not the issue whether useable yung stretch end to end ng SS3.

Nainterview alam ko dati si Sec Villar (if memory serves me right). If not Villar maybe it was a Usec, can't remember clearly. Yung application for toll rate ni SMC sa SS3 hinges on 95% substantial completion. Ang problema may mga kulang pa si SMC sa completion targets niya at nung February or late Jan, record nila was at 90-91% pa lang complete (Can't find an article about it). So di talaga ma-approve ng TRB yun. Hindi pa kasi substantially complete. Yun yung contractual obligation naman sa part ni SMC before they can apply for toll rates.

Skyway 3 stays toll-free longer | Headline | Daily Tribune

Link is an article that mentions something about ramps but not about minimum completion or substantial completion before toll can be collected.

Then mabuti nga isara na lang until ma hit nila yun target. Para wala istorbo na babantayan pa mga dumadaan.

That's the reason why we can't have good things or we don't desrve good things. Gusto libre eh...

Trabaho dapat ng gobyerno yan para libre eh kaso hinde kaya ipapasa sa private tapos pag bayaran na iniipit na.


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[shadow]

Ayaw siguro ng TRB na sumingil ng full ang SMC na 274.
To me, may point naman, hindi pa full useable yung expressway, dami pang hazard na bollards, kaya kung maniningil dapat i base sa useability ng daan which includes the width at safety factor ng road.

Sino ba kasi gusot mag soft opening diba si Villar para maganda nga naman CC para sa senate run niya next year. Kung ako SMB kung libre din lang pala muna eh di isara ko na lang muna until completely matapos na wala pa istorbo.


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[GTcervan]

Although apektado din kami, i agree na Let smc bill nga naman. Halos lahat ng gumastos jan smc, if not all. Tapos kinukuha pa ng credit ng gov't ang glory sa construction nito.

Kung tutuusin, dapat last admin pa tumapos sa ss3 pero ewan ko ba. Lagi namang uso ang delay ng konstruksyon sa pinas kaya wag na kayo magtaka o magulat kung may mga credit grabber jan pag sa panahon nila natapos yan.

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It will remain open

'No closure': Ramon Ang says Skyway Stage 3 to stay open | ABS-CBN News

Never resist temptation for it may never come again

[shadow]

Huwag na kasi muna pasikat Villar para meron siyang accomplishment for his senate run.

Isara na muna hanggang ma hit nila target saka na buksan para makasingil na rin.

Wala na munang soft opening para sikat.


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[GTcervan]

Ss3 naman ang topic pero mauuwi pa sa politiko xD

[ninjababez]

Ss3 naman ang topic pero mauuwi pa sa politiko xD

i agree with shadow bro
matagal na siguro TOTOONG tapos yan kung di lang nag soft opening
ang di lang kami magkasundo ni shadow ay sa presyo ng toll hahaha
sakin kasi, kaya na approve yan project na yan di lang para kumita ang SMC, pero para narin mabawasan traffic sa edsa
so dapat mga tipong 150 lang dagdag from slex to nlex :-P

[GTcervan]

i agree with shadow bro
matagal na siguro TOTOONG tapos yan kung di lang nag soft opening
ang di lang kami magkasundo ni shadow ay sa presyo ng toll hahaha
sakin kasi, kaya na approve yan project na yan di lang para kumita ang SMC, pero para narin mabawasan traffic sa edsa
so dapat mga tipong 150 lang dagdag from slex to nlex :-P

Sabe ko nga matagal na sigurong bukas yan kung di lang nasunog yung sa isang section at walang pandemya pero ngayong bukas na naman ay maging masaya na lang tayo. ;)

Oo, marami rami pa kulang tulad ng mga rampa, mga ilaw, mga signboards, etc. pero yung sa usapan ng smc at trb, sana magkaayusan na sila. Kaso parang maaabala pa mga motorista.

Badang huli mag-adjust at pagbigyan nalang ng trb ang smc tutal mahigit isang buwan nadin walang kolekta sa mga gumagamit diba.

[absinthe]

Piling ko mas maaga sana completion at opening kung di lang nasunog yung sa may section 1. Kaso tumama din yung covid lockdown sa bansa last year kaya yung delay naging grabe din.

Section 2B po exactly:Tomas Claudio – Ramon Magsaysay Ave (San Juan River) Alignment

so dapat mga tipong 150 lang dagdag from slex to nlex :-P

Napost nadin ata dito yung SMC toll fee petition, IIRC yan talaga yung baseline figure ng S3 end-to-end [around P148] but it ballooned to P274 due to:

• realignment of main carriageway from Sta Mesa to San Juan river [magagalit mga nagmomotel kasi hehe /s] - this realignment alone costed SMC a staggering P12.495B of total P66.114B costs so far.
• extension of main carriageway from A. Bonifacio / Balintawak Cloverleaf to NLEx footbridge / NB Main T/P aka Section 5 [not in original plan] which costs P4.335B.
• other deviations from original approved design which costs a lot as well.

Bottomline nan, Lodi needs to quickly recoup SMC's massive investment at the soonest possible time kasi pag natapos na yung NLEx-SLEx connector road ni MVP, madidivert na yung main NLEx-SLEx road traffic doon gawa fewer exits + relatively "straight" yung ROW nya gawa ginamit PNR RROW, more so pag nagawa na yung NLEx - CAVITEx expressway link [which is a technical and financial challenge] in I don't know what year, ang laki ng effect nito sa SLEx at-grade truck / Skyway road traffic pag nagawa to.

[absinthe]

Hmm naisip ko din to - PTP Mods beyond 2 paragraphs

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Skyway 3 closure – a bluff game?
by Ira Panganiban

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SOMCO has been asking the TRB if they can now charge toll for the use of the Skyway 3 to which TRB said they have yet to complete the service of the elevated highway before they can charge proper toll.

TRB said before that they cannot allow Skyway 3 the full amount of toll fee schedule they want because not all of the highway ramps have been opened and they cannot approve partial toll rates since they will be the ones to get criticized if they implement partial toll fees as ramps are opened.

A source from both camps told us that this exchange has been going on since January and that SOMCO claims they have been incurring huge losses for their failure to collect toll for the elevated highway.

At some point, a SOMCO executive decided to force the hand of TRB by issuing the statement yesterday claiming that it is the order of TRB. We do not know if Mr. Ang approved of this tactic.

TRB told us directly that there has been no order from them about the closure of Skyway and that in fact it is to their advantage, public relations wise, to keep the 2nd level highway open for free.

Our source said the SOMCO executive thought this would finally give them the leverage to collect tolls without finishing the ramps but ended up with a very stubborn DOTr.

[shadow]

Eh obvious naman na yan soft opening eh pakana nun nag credit grab para sa senate run niya.


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[shadow]

Kung ganyan i-close na muna hanggang hinde talag tapos para wala ng usapan kung pwede na sila maningil or hinde, ginagamit lang pampaogi SMC.


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[GTcervan]

Hmph daming pautot. Sana payagan na kasing maningil para wala nang problema. Kasi bandang huli, baka mga motorista pa maabala.

[shadow]

Kaya nga isara na dapat hanggang matapos para wala ng dahilan TRB.


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