NLEX, SCTEX, Over-Speeding, Speed-Radar [MERGED Threads]

[mazdamazda]

buti kung aabot ng 100kph yung jeep

Some of them can even hit 120kph.

You should also see the buses & empty cargo trucks travelling at around 100kph...

[boylit]

Been passing NLEX going to and from Baguio practically every weekend of for the past 6 weeks. Twice on my bike and Twice in my station wagon. On both I run over 150 kph on empty sections and have not been arrested/warned/stopped/held.

[niky]

The funniest thing I've seen is AUVs going 140+ kph on the NLEX. I've actually done it in one, and it felt as safe as 80 kph on SLEX.

Not that I condone OVERspeeding, but I'm a firm believer that the "safe" speed is dependent on conditions and is not merely a flat, uniform figure... 140 kph on the SLEX or 100 kph on EDSA is vastly more dangerous than 200 kph on the NLEX.

[ILuvDetailing]

Some of them can even hit 120kph.

problem is, can they stop in time with those "de bomba" brakes? Are those PUJs or owner type jeeps?

[FrankDrebin]

problem is, can they stop in time with those "de bomba" brakes? Are those PUJs or owner type jeeps?

Yes they can stop if their brake system is in good condition. With the "de bomba brake (usually may problema sa master)" they can stop also in time kapag may alalay at maganda ang distansya.

[mazdamazda]

by the way...

there is no min & max speed limit sign posted in the open-system portion of the NLEX (Balintawak to Bocaue)

the only portion where a max speed sign is posted is when entering exit tollways (which is 40kph) and when merging to the 4-lane highway from the tollbooth (80kph).

which makes our little argument moot & academic. hehe.

[muffer]

May suggestions lng ako sa mga management ng NLEX at SLEX sana man lang magbigay sila ng leaflets o flyers na nagsasaan ng mga rules and regulations nila sa loob ng NLEX at SLEX kasama sa pag-abot nila ng receipt o card para basahin ng driver o ng katabi nya, may mga illustrations on drawings para sa mga di marunong bumasa at tagalog at english para sa mga nag-aral pero asal hayup pa rin sa manubela. Tulad sa Clark at Subic na may batas na sinusunod. Takot!, lahat sumusunod.

• Ilagay nila kung saan LANE dapat lang ang bus, bikes at ang mga mababagal at kung saan ang Passing Lane
• Sitahin nila ang mga walang brake lamps, tail lamps, signal lamps at headlamps, lalo na mga mahahabang trailer na walang side marker lights. Ahbulin kung dapat habulin.
• Wag payagan pumasok ang mga bulok na vehicle na halos malaglag na ang pintuan at mga trucks at owner type jeep na patagilid ng tumakbo.
At yung may mga kargang nililipad ng hangin, plywood o carton.
• At maglagay sila ng MINI HAMPS 3inches in height at 20 meters in-between sa Service Road o Shoulder para walang mag overtake at di makahataw sa kanan ang mga lintek na bobong driver.

Siguro naman sa laki ng singil nila kahit zerox lng kaya naman nila magpamigay, o mag AD sila full page sa newspaper at tabloid para mabasa ng lahat na nakakaunawa.

At pakiusap lng sa may mga HUBCABS tangalin nyo muna kung gagamit kayo ng express way. minsan nakakita ako ng lumilipad galing sa Besta Van. parang pinalipad ng Ninja o Boomerang, swerte na lng at walang tinamaan.

Malaki kasi ang Obligasyon at Reponsibilidad ng vehicle owners, drivers at ng NLEX, SLEX Management sa safety ng passengers at ng mga motorista sa kalye.
Di dapat EXCUSE ang "Aksidente Kasi" Hawak mo manubela, tapak mo preno at gas at binigyan tayo ng Dios ng pag-iisip, pwes gamitin natin ng tama. Kung alam mong bibiyahe sasakyan mo ng mabilis at malayuan, dapat pa-check mo muna.

Mahirap man mabuhay sating bansa, masarap pa rin ang BUHAY.

[mikey177]

...sana man lang magbigay sila ng leaflets o flyers na nagsasaan ng mga rules and regulations nila sa loob ng NLEX...

Nagbibigay naman ng flyers ang NLEX, pero hindi siguro 24/7 ang pagbibigay nila. Here's a sample of one that I got; I reduced its size for faster downloading:

[Automahn]

Parang walang hinuhuling overspeeding sa NLEX. Tuwing dadaan ako kaliwa't kanan ang mga humaharurot, parang mga ahas pa kung magpalit ng lane. Minsan pag naalanganin sila sa paglusot, iilawan ka pa na bilisan o tumabi kahit na nasa 2nd o 3rd lane ka.

[j_avonni]

Nagbibigay naman ng flyers ang NLEX, pero hindi siguro 24/7 ang pagbibigay nila. Here's a sample of one that I got; I reduced its size for faster downloading:

Advertisement pala ito eh in the guise of reminders. Pero okay na rin kaysa wala.

[boybi]

do you mean autobahn ang open system ng NLEX?

[mazdamazda]

parang ganun na nga... hehehe...

napansin ko rin... may max speed limit when approaching bridges (or parts na walang shoulder)... which is 80kph.

[H1Tman]

Kapag going to Bulacan ako, I go as much as 140kph. Going back to Manila, 100kph to 120kph. May nahuli na ba?

[albert_b]

parang ganun na nga... hehehe...

napansin ko rin... may max speed limit when approaching bridges (or parts na walang shoulder)... which is 80kph.

exit / entry ramps have 40 KPH max limit :-) ... pero tama si bosing mazda, wala nga ako napapansin na max (hmmm double check ko sa Saturday ulit)

[pepengtom]

ayos lang ang 100kph, for me ha?...
naka survive nga ako sa 80kph from manila to pampanga e.
ganda naman outcome ng mileage mo.
kaboring nga lang.

ayusin na lang nila ung mga slowpokes na namamalagi sa leftmost lane.
nakakairita sa kabagalan, madalas pag naalangan ka kasalanan mo pa.
pag nagbright or bumisina ka galit pa sayo.

kelangan siguro nateng mga pinoy ng seminar para sabay sabay naten matutunan ang anuman gusto i-imply ng mntc/lto or kung sino sino pa.

well... maybe its just me, or it's just a maybe.

[boylit]

the 55 mph (in the US) and 85 kph (here) general speed limit here was brought about by the oil crisis in the 1970s. with the spiraling cost of oil at the time, our legislators (then Batansang Pambansa) enacted BP No. 73 "AN ACT TO FURTHER PROMOTE ENERGY CONSERVATION AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES". Section 9 of which reads (pertinent phrase in bold) :

Sec. 9. The Ministry of Transportation and Communication is hereby empowered to regulate the use of motor vehicles so as to conserve fuel and relieve traffic congestion, including but not limited to restricting the use of certain type of vehicles during peak hours of the day and during Sundays and legal holidays, or their use for certain destinations or over certain streets during stated hours; or imposing or over careless days; or requiring the organization of car pools in specific areas or among residents of certain neighborhoods; or fixing a minimum number of passengers for certain types of motor vehicles with certain destinations; or fixing speed limits on certain highways or streets; or requiring certificates of roadworthiness before registration of motor vehicles; or denying registration to vehicles which do not meet the standards of energy consumption set pursuant to the provisions of this Act; or setting and enforcing yearly limits on the number of passenger car that are sold and/or registered for the first time.

The MoT, at the time, simply copied over the US system converted to kph and rounded off the the nearest 5 which gives us our 85 kph national speed limit.

[size=1]I think that this section of the law has not been repealed (we need another law to specifically state the repeal) and law enforcers can still use this against us if they were smart enough.[/size]

It's interesting that the section on banning of importation of large displacement and high weight vehicles was repealed specifically by Cory Aquino during her time but not the rest of it.

Of course, this also means that only the MoT (or, now, DoTC) can specify speed limits. This leads to the question as to the validity of the speed limits on the highways set by the PNCC and MNTC. I once used this argument when I was stopped for overspeeding in SLEX. I showed the booth person my copy of BP 73 and asked them to produce a copy of a law (be it RA, BP, EO or whatever that shows that they have authority to do so.) with a follow up statement that if they hold me further without cause they can be liable under law. So far, reaction has been a bit of head scratching and them letting me go.

[j_avonni]

The last time I used NLEX, they were putting signs as to which lane a particular vehicle must pass. The problem is - will it be implemented and followed by undisciplined drivers?

[Satio]

NLEX Speed Traps?? kahapon lng traveling around 120 to 130kph mula sa Sta.Ines hindi naman ako nahuli..

pelo.. pagdating sa Bocawe nasa 90 to 100kph sila.. medyo mabadal..

[rcl_inno]

to fellow tsikoteers travelling farther north, speed traps are located between the two bridges of San Fernando Exit and Angeles Exit , i think after lakeshore there is always a parked white pick-up on top of, one of this bridges , a friend of mine was caught by the camera of this pick-up , and was stopped at the angeles toll exit, his drivers license was confiscated, and he had to get it in LTO main office in QC, random apprehensions lang naman ito, just be alert of this MNTC pick-up lurking on top of this bridges.

[Satio]

to fellow tsikoteers travelling farther north, speed traps are located between the two bridges of San Fernando Exit and Angeles Exit , i think after lakeshore there is always a parked white pick-up on top of, one of this bridges , a friend of mine was caught by the camera of this pick-up , and was stopped at the angeles toll exit, his drivers license was confiscated, and he had to get it in LTO main office in QC, random apprehensions lang naman ito, just be alert of this MNTC pick-up lurking on top of this bridges.

I'll keep this in mind..

And Hopefully.. sana yun For Overtaking Only.. eh gawin sana nilang expresslane not lower than 120 or 130kph..