Motorcycle rider incidents

[Wh1stl3r]

In most of the incidents involving MCs and a bigger vehicle, the driver of the bigger vehicle is always jailed even if it is clearly the MC rider's fault.

One time one of our veteran drivers had the misfortune of having a drunk MC rider ram the rear aluminum van part of his truck at a perpendicular angle. He was jailed and they even wanted him to pay for the guy's funeral. Galit na galit pa mga kamag anak, gusto pa sya bugbugin. WTF. If that isn't tyranny, I don't know what is.

Something is clearly wrong with the way the police looks at these accidents.

[Stigg ma]

i have been to world trade center today for the annual motorcycle expo, not a single motorcycle driving school participated in the event (like honda safety driving center)

a lot of people were buying racing tires BTW that looked liked a prize because they wear the tire on their necks... so alam na this...

[remzam]

thats the excuse... discrimination. criminals use mcs. gun & license checkpoints every corner of metro manila for mcs only.

discipline these 10m mc riders. the new 1m riders included.
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Not an excuse. That's the reality. As a rider myself, that is plain discrimination. Criminals do not use motorcycles only.

Here's the deal. I'm an active member of both Tsikot and MCP. Tsikot members will blame motorcycle riders. MCP members will blame undisciplined drivers. My take on this is, we need proper education and real and strict law enforcement. Eh yung mga traffic enforcer natin do not wear helmet nor wear seat belts. Sila pa nauuna to break traffic rules.

Education is key. And respect. Learn to share the road.

BTW, I drive, I ride, and I bike. So i share everyone's sentiment. Actually nakaka frustrate. Lalo na when you experience first world traffic and road conditions. Why can't we be disciplined citizens. On and off road.

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[keto]

Not an excuse. That's the reality. As a rider myself, that is plain discrimination. Criminals do not use motorcycles only.

Here's the deal. I'm an active member of both Tsikot and MCP. Tsikot members will blame motorcycle riders. MCP members will blame undisciplined drivers. My take on this is, we need proper education and real and strict law enforcement. Eh yung mga traffic enforcer natin do not wear helmet nor wear seat belts. Sila pa nauuna to break traffic rules.

Education is key. And respect. Learn to share the road.

BTW, I drive, I ride, and I bike. So i share everyone's sentiment. Actually nakaka frustrate. Lalo na when you experience first world traffic and road conditions. Why can't we be disciplined citizens. On and off road.

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Agree with this, education is key. Driver's ed should be made mandatory. LTO is also to blame for lax enforcement pero I believe kung malalaman lang ng mga tao basic rules of the road and etiquette, malaki magiging ginhawa sa kalsada. Saka na natin problemahin enforcement lol

[Stigg ma]

Agree with this, education is key. Driver's ed should be made mandatory. LTO is also to blame for lax enforcement pero I believe kung malalaman lang ng mga tao basic rules of the road and etiquette, malaki magiging ginhawa sa kalsada. Saka na natin problemahin enforcement lol

LTO is govt = govt is corrupt = why govt is corrupt? = 333 years of spanish corrupt govt that still runs in our blood...

[oj88]

Our motorcycle situation is partly the fault of police and traffic enforcers for tolerating or even encouraging traffic violations.

1. If the light is red, ALL vehicles should stop, no ifs no buts. But you see some traffic enforcers waving the MCs through
2. You'll see MCs blocking pedestrian lanes and breaching the yellow box with the traffic police just turning a blind eye
3. They squeeze through barricaded or blocked U-turn slots, pedestrian lane-only pathways, or counter-flow on a one-way or two-way street.... just because they physically can

These are just some of the things they do on a regular basis. It's so infectious as it influences other MC riders to do the same, defining it as the norm.

It's also ironic that the same people clamour for road equality, citing how they are being discriminated. And then these people go out and break the law every chance they have.

I applaud MC riders who obey traffic rules and NOT participate in any of the examples I've mentioned. I'm more than willing to share the road with them.

PS: I was an MC rider for 8 years from 2001 until I can no longer take how the community has become. Now, it's all just about mods, mods, and mods. For instance, the majority don't know squat about the proper lighting (correct color, brightness, and headlamp beam shapes). They just slap on an LED bar, blue, gree, white lights in the rear, and some really loud and awesome exhaust.... just because the other guy has them. Pwe!

[CVT]

Education is key. And respect. Learn to share the road.

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Agree. Learn To Share The Road....

Kahit saang kalye,- puwedeng lumusot ang motorsiklo,- kaliwa man o kanan (puwede bang isang side lang?- makakalusot din naman e)... Learn to share the road.

Tapos pag lumusot,- puwede bang diretso lang? At hindi magka-cut sa unahan,- delikado e. Learn to share the road.

Kapag nasa-unahan ang motor,- at malayo na ang nasa unahan nitong sasakyan,- puwede bang tumabi at palusutin ang 4-wheeler? - Learn to share the road.

Kapag may tumigil sa tabi na 4-wheeler - magbababa ng pasahero e... Puwede bang huwag makipagkarera para lumusot sa kanan at i-cut ang 4-wheeler na lulusot sa kaliwa ng nakatabing sasakyan?... Puwede namang pumila ng kaunting segundo at lusot na rin naman lahat ng sasakyan e... Learn to share the road.

Sa mga intersection na may traffic light,- di ba't nasa unahan naman lahat ng motorsiklo at nakatabi sa mga sasakyan? Kapag- go na di ba't nauuna naman halos lahat ng motorsiklo? Puwede bang iyong darating pa lang sa intersection,- huwag karerahin ang mga 4-wheelers na tumatawid at ika-cut sa unahan?.... Tumitigil halos ang trapik dahil nag-aalangan ang kina-cut ng mga motorsiklo... Tuloy,- kaunti lang ang nakaka-cross ng intersection... Walang pumipigil na lumusot ang mga motorsiklo sa kaliwa o kanan (again,- puwede bang isang side lang),- pero baka naman puwedeng diretso lang at huwag mag-cut sa unahan?.... Learn to share the road.

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[hypnos]

Agree. Learn To Share The Road....

Kahit saang kalye,- puwedeng lumusot ang motorsiklo,- kaliwa man o kanan (puwede bang isang side lang?- makakalusot din naman e)... Learn to share the road.

Tapos pag lumusot,- puwede bang diretso lang? At hindi magka-cut sa unahan,- delikado e. Learn to share the road.

Kapag nasa-unahan ang motor,- at malayo na ang nasa unahan nitong sasakyan,- puwede bang tumabi at palusutin ang 4-wheeler? - Learn to share the road.

Kapag may tumigil sa tabi na 4-wheeler - magbababa ng pasahero e... Puwede bang huwag makipagkarera para lumusot sa kanan at i-cut ang 4-wheeler na lulusot sa kaliwa ng nakatabing sasakyan?... Puwede namang pumila ng kaunting segundo at lusot na rin naman lahat ng sasakyan e... Learn to share the road.

Sa mga intersection na may traffic light,- di ba't nasa unahan naman lahat ng motorsiklo at nakatabi sa mga sasakyan? Kapag- go na di ba't nauuna naman halos lahat ng motorsiklo? Puwede bang iyong darating pa lang sa intersection,- huwag karerahin ang mga 4-wheelers na tumatawid at ika-cut sa unahan?.... Tumitigil halos ang trapik dahil nag-aalangan ang kina-cut ng mga motorsiklo... Tuloy,- kaunti lang ang nakaka-cross ng intersection... Walang pumipigil na lumusot ang mga motorsiklo sa kaliwa o kanan (again,- puwede bang isang side lang),- pero baka naman puwedeng diretso lang at huwag mag-cut sa unahan?.... Learn to share the road.

Very well said Sir!
Add pa yung kung umovertake grabe maka pina ng likod ng motor sa front bumper ng kotse, kelangan mo pa magpreno kahit ang luwag sa unahan.
Mga Motor na sa line nagpapatakbo hindi sa lane, kahit hindi naman traffic. sinasakop 2 lanes.

Calling 4 wheels as cage is also discrimination. Mag name-call tapos sasabihin discrimination sa motor.
We do not call motorcycles as scaffolding or flesh and bones.

[remzam]

Very well said Sir!
Add pa yung kung umovertake grabe maka pina ng likod ng motor sa front bumper ng kotse, kelangan mo pa magpreno kahit ang luwag sa unahan.
Mga Motor na sa line nagpapatakbo hindi sa lane, kahit hindi naman traffic. sinasakop 2 lanes.

Calling 4 wheels as cage is also discrimination. Mag name-call tapos sasabihin discrimination sa motor.
We do not call motorcycles as scaffolding or flesh and bones.

Yan din di ko maintindihan sa ibang motorcycle riders. Grabe makapina. Di ata nila alam pag nagkasagian, sila ang dehado.

Will all due respect sir, my use of the term cage wasn't meant to be discriminatory. That is just what many a biker call cars and automobiles in general. I also ride my cage on a regular basis.

Like what I've said before, just learn to share the road. Mas dehado parati ang motor sa aksidente. Or even sa kalye in general. Walang aircon. Pag umulan walang bubong. But i Call myself a road user in general. Whether I'm on my car, motorcycle or bicycle. I'm even a road user when I'm just a pedestrian. Yun pa isa nakakalimutan ng driver. Pedestrians are also road users.

Sa ibang bansa, truck drivers have to give way to cars. Car drivers have to give way to motorcycles. Motorcycle riders have to give way to bicycles. Bicycle riders have to give way to pedestrians. That's respect to other road users especially those slower or smaller than you. (of course what I said above is not an absolute rule. But we get the point) we just need to get along.

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[Bin Diesel]

Education is key. And respect. Learn to share the road.

BTW, I drive, I ride, and I bike. So i share everyone's sentiment. Actually nakaka frustrate. Lalo na when you experience first world traffic and road conditions. Why can't we be disciplined citizens. On and off road.

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Ako I also walk kaya doble ang pagka-asar ko sa mga riders na sa sidewalk dumadaan at nagpaparada ng mga motor nila.

[dr. d]

Ako I also walk kaya doble ang pagka-asar ko sa mga riders na sa sidewalk dumadaan at nagpaparada ng mga motor nila.

i also agree.
but what can one expect, kung katabi ng motor nila yung motor ng pulis at traffic enforcer?
whatever happened to good example principle from government personnel?

[RR_22]

On the other side of a coin, there's this MCP or Motorcycle Philippines and has forum similar with Tsikot.

Most topics are modifications in their MCs. I was looking if they have 4-wheel drivers topic, but nada.

Question: Do we have a law or mmda ruling that MC must put their headlights on at all times?


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[remzam]

On the other side of a coin, there's this MCP or Motorcycle Philippines and has forum similar with Tsikot.

Most topics are modifications in their MCs. I was looking if they have 4-wheel drivers topic, but nada.

Question: Do we have a law or mmda ruling that MC must put their headlights on at all times?


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Most if not all of the new motorcycles released these days have daylight running lights. No switch to turn off headlights. The moment you start the engine, headlight is always on.

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[remzam]

MCP has this:

Balasubas na kapwa rider(share your experience)

Pasaway riders

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[remzam]

And we hear all the time, "bakit pag nasa Subic tumitino ang mga drivers?"

Big factor that traffic rules are enforced 100% no ifs no buts. Walang lagayan. Huli kung huli. Walang palakasan.

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[newtocar]

Going thru Driving schools should be a mandaratory requirement for license issuance, so riders and drivers alike will be educated.


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[cast_no_shadow]

Pundihin ba ilaw ng mga MCs?

Or may advantage ba pag hindi naka on?

Most MCs don't even have lights kahit gabi mga naghahanap talaga ng kamatayan. Yung iba mukha naman mabago bago, ano yun pundi agad? At nagkataon halos lahat pundi? O ayaw lang talaga mag ilaw?

Yung iba may ilaw nga, lintek naman sa buga at glare.

Extremes diba.


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[remzam]

Pundihin ba ilaw ng mga MCs?

Or may advantage ba pag hindi naka on?

Most MCs don't even have lights kahit gabi mga naghahanap talaga ng kamatayan. Yung iba mukha naman mabago bago, ano yun pundi agad? At nagkataon halos lahat pundi? O ayaw lang talaga mag ilaw?

Yung iba may ilaw nga, lintek naman sa buga at glare.

Extremes diba.


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Nope hindi pundihin ang ilaw ng motorsiklo. It's the same bulb that you use in cars.

It becomes a problem when some riders think they know better than the engineers and designers who made the motorcycle.

For one, almost all of the new motorcycles now have AHO (Automatic Headlight On) similar to cars. Once you start the engine, on na ang headlight. Yung "magagaling" bypass the wiring and put a switch so they can turn off the headlight. For what reason, I don't know. I hear some, para daw di mapundi agad. I say that's BS. (parang jeepney drivers who don't use headlight at night Para daw di malakas sa kuryente)

Second, they put different auxiliary devices that wrecks the electrical flow of the motorcycle. Mga sira-niko who puts too much external lights, speakers which consume so much wattage, and other mods. The charging system can't cope up with the electrical load thus creating an imbalance which usually kills the head light bulb, the battery, or the whole electrical system.

As for the LED auxiliary lights, I hate them also. Not properly aligned and sinisilaw lang kasalubong. Nakakainis yun.

Meron pa headlight ako nakita kulay pula. I wish sometimes makatapat ng kotse yun na akala rear light yun unahan ng motor.

Again, to answer your question sir, hindi pundihin ang ilaw ng motor. My Vespa still uses the same headlight bulb I put 15 years ago. And that's using the headlight day or night even without AHO. Just switch it on everytime I ride. Reflex like seat belt.

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[dr. d]

Pundihin ba ilaw ng mga MCs?

Or may advantage ba pag hindi naka on?

Most MCs don't even have lights kahit gabi mga naghahanap talaga ng kamatayan. Yung iba mukha naman mabago bago, ano yun pundi agad? At nagkataon halos lahat pundi? O ayaw lang talaga mag ilaw?

Yung iba may ilaw nga, lintek naman sa buga at glare.

Extremes diba.


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many MC users are not as moneyed compared to car users. to them, replacing a bulb costs money they would rather use for something else (like alcohol, cigarettes, lotto, etc. heh heh).
dahil MC nga sila, barumbado mag-drive yung iba. natatagtag ang bumbilya.
MCs use 6 volts. some MCs' headlights are not efficient. the rider probably does not see much of a difference between headlight on and headlight off, in illuminating his front. so when the bulb goes pufft, why replace it? they do not consider the fact that headlights serve two functions. the more obvious (to him) is to light his way. the less obvious, but equally or even more important, is to warn the other motorists of his presence. one person in office said, "ang motorsiklista, para lang yang posporo. isang patpat na mapayat na may pulang ulo". making the MC more visible thru effective lighting, is a must, if rider is to drive the next day.

[bulawbusiness]

Mga mc riders na hindi nagsusuot ng helmet, eh bakit ba naman sila magsusuot ng helmet kung mas matigas ang ulo nila kesa sa helmet, masisira pa buhok nila. yong mga mc rider naman na iba, kabago-bago tinanggal na mga side mirrors at kaha ng motor less wind drag daw. utak boboGP