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    Brace yourselves folks. If you think EDSA traffic is the pits, you ain't seen nuthin' yet: MMDA Fears

    MANILA, Philippines --- The Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) expressed yesterday apprehension over the a possible "traffic pandemonium" should the two-year major overhaul of Epifanio Delos Santos Avenue (EDSA) push through.

    "Where will we locate the 1,200 vehicles that ply per lane, per hour along EDSA?" MMDA Chairman Francis N. Tolentino asked out loud as he confirmed to media the information he received from the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH).

    The DPWH is planning to do major repairs on EDSA between Monumento and Baclaran for 24 months.

    Tolentino said the mere thought of it is quite chilling.

    The MMDA chairman said he has "yet to be consulted for a viable traffic management plan" that would cater to the volume of vehicles that ply EDSA, especially during the rush hour, should the DPWH execute the plan.

    Tolentino said there should be back plan to accommodate the number of vehicles that will be displaced during the construction period because motorists would face massive traffic.

    "I have no sound solution or a magical wand to produce a good result. Provide us with a silver bullet first, show us the plan and we will consult the general traffic," he added.

    EDSA, being the country's busiest thoroughfare, is referred to as the spine of the metropolis.

    "Pag nagbara ang EDSA, wala nang gagalaw. Lilipat na kami ng opisina, wala na yan, wala na yan, pandemonium yan (If EDSA is blocked, mobility stops. We'll have to relocate our office. That's the end of it - "pandemonium,"' said the MMDA chairman whose office is also near EDSA.

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    Plano ng MRT mag expand ng capacity, oorder ata sila ng mga tren (2nd hand ata or bnew).

    Ang gawin, bawasan ang bus na ba-byahe, tapos mag MRT muna sila. Make the motoring public choose the MRT. Yun pa lang ang pwedeng solusyon ngayon.

    Ayusin ang sistema ng MRT, expand capacity, longer operation hours (kasi kahit late night, traffic padin sa edsa pag sinimulan na yan).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackFlash View Post
    Brace yourselves folks. If you think EDSA traffic is the pits, you ain't seen nuthin' yet: MMDA Fears
    Dapat kasi unahin munang gawin ung SKYBRIDGE bago galawin ang EDSA.

    http://www.philstar.com/metro/764034...decongest-edsa

    Traffic: Is another skyway the best solution?

    Ung mga tao sa gov. parang pag nag-iisip ng solution ang pinipili ay ung worse solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    Dapat kasi unahin munang gawin ung SKYBRIDGE bago galawin ang EDSA.

    http://www.philstar.com/metro/764034...decongest-edsa

    Traffic: Is another skyway the best solution?

    Ung mga tao sa gov. parang pag nag-iisip ng solution ang pinipili ay ung worse solution.
    Sa worse solution kasi malaki ang kickback. Kung wala kasing kickback yan, they have improved EDSA a lot better. Hindi substandard na semento ginamit dyan.. hindi rin walang kwentang aspalto ang panakip lubak sa kalsada.

    Marami na sanang flyovers at alternative roads. Let's face it. EDSA is too congested. Until they find ways to increase the road lanes without buying the prime lots along it, this horrifying traffic will never be solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronki View Post
    Plano ng MRT mag expand ng capacity, oorder ata sila ng mga tren (2nd hand ata or bnew).

    Ang gawin, bawasan ang bus na ba-byahe, tapos mag MRT muna sila. Make the motoring public choose the MRT. Yun pa lang ang pwedeng solusyon ngayon.

    Ayusin ang sistema ng MRT, expand capacity, longer operation hours (kasi kahit late night, traffic padin sa edsa pag sinimulan na yan).
    ok to. gawing attractive ang MRT sa mga commuters.

    1. ticket na pwede mo reloadan kahit saan. parang EZ link ng singapore. bawas na ang pila sa mga single journey tickets. isa to sa mga nakakainis sa train e. haba ng pila sa ticket palagi.
    2. more trains.
    3. alisin na mga upuan sa trains. magtira na lang para sa mga disabled, elderly, pregnant, etc... para mas madaming masakay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robot.sonic View Post
    ok to. gawing attractive ang MRT sa mga commuters.

    1. ticket na pwede mo reloadan kahit saan. parang EZ link ng singapore. bawas na ang pila sa mga single journey tickets. isa to sa mga nakakainis sa train e. haba ng pila sa ticket palagi.
    2. more trains.
    3. alisin na mga upuan sa trains. magtira na lang para sa mga disabled, elderly, pregnant, etc... para mas madaming masakay.
    Naisip ko nga din, bakit hindi na lang i-centralize ang ticketing ng MRT/LRT, tapos gawing available sa tindahan ng load, kunwari sa Information stall ng mga mall, sa 7-11, madaming paraan eh.

    Kunwari, galing ka ng bahay, sa kanto niyo may 7-11, bili ka dalawang ticket for single journey. Eh di solve ka na sa araw na yun, wala na pila.

    Isa pa problema sa MRT, ayaw umusog ng iba sa gitna, ang luwag sa gitna ang sikip sa may pintuan.

    Pag nasagot lahat ng problema na yan, majority ma-eenganyo mag MRT, then saka bawasan ang BUS/UV Express for the meantime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronki View Post

    Isa pa problema sa MRT, ayaw umusog ng iba sa gitna, ang luwag sa gitna ang sikip sa may pintuan.
    ako din ganyan. kasi once na matulak ka sa gitna, ang hirap na lumabas. bababa ka na dun sa station na yun tapos hindi ka makalabas. hassle pag nasaraduhan ka. sa next stop ka bababa, at babalik. ayaw kasi magbigayan e

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    Quote Originally Posted by robot.sonic View Post
    ok to. gawing attractive ang MRT sa mga commuters.

    1. ticket na pwede mo reloadan kahit saan. parang EZ link ng singapore. bawas na ang pila sa mga single journey tickets. isa to sa mga nakakainis sa train e. haba ng pila sa ticket palagi.
    2. more trains.
    3. alisin na mga upuan sa trains. magtira na lang para sa mga disabled, elderly, pregnant, etc... para mas madaming masakay.
    All the MRT stations were built to accommodate 4 railcars.. di ko maintindihan bakit 3 railcars lang ginagamit ng MRT management.

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    4 railcars and trains just half a kilometer apart, and the MRT still won't have anywhere near the volume to replace the buses on EDSA, (speaking as a pre-paid card holder)

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    ako din ganyan. kasi once na matulak ka sa gitna, ang hirap na lumabas. bababa ka na dun sa station na yun tapos hindi ka makalabas. hassle pag nasaraduhan ka. sa next stop ka bababa, at babalik. ayaw kasi magbigayan e
    lseparate ang pinto for entrance at exit.

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    madami talaga buses sa edsa. pero karamihan naman walang laman e. usually 1/4 lang ang sakay. madalas lang na puno yung galing fairview. tapos magbababad sa kalsada mga bus para magpapuno.

    kailangan na talaga bawasan ang buses dyan at palitan ng double decker. pero dapat may speed limiter ang mga double decker. baka sa sobrang bilis magpatakbo tapos mag swerve ay matumba.

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    There are way too many buses during off-peak hours. But during peak hours, there are not enough buses. If you take a bus going down south or up north off EDSA at night, you'll be standing three deep in the aisles.

    The problem is not solely the number of buses. It's the fact that they're all run by separate companies who need to maximize profits by running as many trips as possible at off-peak, and who loiter at the stops way too long, trying to get that last passenger.This is why we need central dispatching.

    And if you've ever ridden the MRT at rush hour, you'll know that the MRT is woefully inadequate for commuter use during rush hour. The stations simply aren't built for the volume.

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    Just too many people. Especially at Makati and Cubao. If EDSA rehab closes down significant portions of EDSA, drastic measures such as forcing businesses to stagger working hours might be needed.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robot.sonic View Post
    madami talaga buses sa edsa. pero karamihan naman walang laman e. usually 1/4 lang ang sakay. madalas lang na puno yung galing fairview. tapos magbababad sa kalsada mga bus para magpapuno.

    kailangan na talaga bawasan ang buses dyan at palitan ng double decker. pero dapat may speed limiter ang mga double decker. baka sa sobrang bilis magpatakbo tapos mag swerve ay matumba.
    May double deckers dati. Tinangal mga yun dahil sa spaghetti kawad ng kuryente at mga pedestrian overpass...

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    Comforting words from the MMDA indeed. Rehab EDSA? They couldnt manage traffic this morning when a bus blocked off two lanes in an accident in Guadalupe.

    My take: Do the NLEX-SLEX Skyway link and the EDSA MRT expansion/rehab first then let's talk of overhauling EDSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    ako din ganyan. kasi once na matulak ka sa gitna, ang hirap na lumabas. bababa ka na dun sa station na yun tapos hindi ka makalabas. hassle pag nasaraduhan ka. sa next stop ka bababa, at babalik. ayaw kasi magbigayan e
    Whenever I ride the train, kahit masikip, basta kaya, I move to the center. I find it too selfish to stay near the doors if you're going down at least 2 stations away anyway.

    Dahilan ng mga tao, "eh gago siya eh hinaharangan niya". Gusto nila magbago yung iba nilang kasabay. Eh sila, nagbibigay ba? Sila ba umuusog sa gitna? Before pointing fingers at others, why not examine yourself first.

    BTW, in the 8 years that I've been riding the train almost daily, never pa kong nasaraduhan dahil galing ako sa gitna. Worst that happened was when I had to give the stubborn people in front of me a little push, but the train door has never closed on me. Not even at 7pm going down at Shaw Station Northbound on a workday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Whenever I ride the train, kahit masikip, basta kaya, I move to the center. I find it too selfish to stay near the doors if you're going down at least 2 stations away anyway.

    Dahilan ng mga tao, "eh gago siya eh hinaharangan niya". Gusto nila magbago yung iba nilang kasabay. Eh sila, nagbibigay ba? Sila ba umuusog sa gitna? Before pointing fingers at others, why not examine yourself first.

    BTW, in the 8 years that I've been riding the train almost daily, never pa kong nasaraduhan dahil galing ako sa gitna. Worst that happened was when I had to give the stubborn people in front of me a little push, but the train door has never closed on me. Not even at 7pm going down at Shaw Station Northbound on a workday.
    pag malayo naman, let say 5 stations, pupunta ako sa gitna, pero let say 2 stations na lang, unti unti na akong lalabas galing gitna. basta i'll make sure na 1 station before, kayang kaya ko na lumabas. you really need a little push, pero usually may babae e. so hindi rin magawa palagi